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Google Expert 04-11-2013 08:16 AM

'Gay' couple face trial for raping adopted sons
 
http://www.ctnow.com/news/connecticu...,1350267.story

A judge on Friday allowed two Glastonbury men, accused two years ago of sexually assaulting two of their nine adopted boys, to withdraw their no-contest pleas and take their cases to trial.

The unusual action came during what was to be a sentencing hearing for George Harasz and Douglas Wirth, who entered pleas in January to one felony count each of risk of injury to a minor. They agreed to suspended prison sentences. The only issue for Fridays hearing was to be whether each would be required to register as sex offenders.

But a new allegation of sexual assault against Harasz by one of the victims, contained in a pre-sentence investigation of Harasz, helped scrap the plea agreement. The case was further clouded Friday by disclosure in court of new allegations of abuse by three other of the nine children. No new criminal charges have been filed.

Lichen 04-11-2013 08:18 AM

They allow sexual deviants to be around kids what did you think would happen?

Not only are the Gays sick but our courts are sick for allowing this to happen in the first place.

John-ACWM 04-11-2013 08:39 AM

There is good and bad everywhere, sad there are kids involved.

epitome 04-11-2013 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Lichen (Post 19572744)
They allow sexual deviants to be around kids what did you think would happen?

Not only are the Gays sick but our courts are sick for allowing this to happen in the first place.

I hope you're joking and not actually that ignorant?

Grapesoda 04-11-2013 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by M.A+ (Post 19572743)
http://www.ctnow.com/news/connecticu...,1350267.story

A judge on Friday allowed two Glastonbury men, accused two years ago of sexually assaulting two of their nine adopted boys, to withdraw their no-contest pleas and take their cases to trial.

The unusual action came during what was to be a sentencing hearing for George Harasz and Douglas Wirth, who entered pleas in January to one felony count each of risk of injury to a minor. They agreed to suspended prison sentences. The only issue for Fridays hearing was to be whether each would be required to register as sex offenders.

But a new allegation of sexual assault against Harasz by one of the victims, contained in a pre-sentence investigation of Harasz, helped scrap the plea agreement. The case was further clouded Friday by disclosure in court of new allegations of abuse by three other of the nine children. No new criminal charges have been filed.

this story will be buried pretty quick. it's really not acceptable to the common narrative publishing anything that puts homosexuality in a negative light

Grapesoda 04-11-2013 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19572809)
I hope you're joking and not actually that ignorant?

you might need to seriously consider that some people don't agree with homosexuality :2 cents:

_Richard_ 04-11-2013 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19572814)
this story will be buried pretty quick. it's really not acceptable to the common narrative publishing anything that puts homosexuality in a negative light

can you provide an article where that states 'heterosexual couple abuses children'

if there isn't, that's some sick discrimination right there

Phoenix 04-11-2013 09:32 AM

i didnt read the article...but they are still allowed children after the abuse?

i would think any parent straight gay curved or bent should lose their kids and rights to have kids once you decide to have sex with them...wtf

Jel 04-11-2013 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19572848)
can you provide an article where that states 'heterosexual couple abuses children'

if there isn't, that's some sick discrimination right there

come on, even you must know the difference between discrimination and attention-grabbing sensationalism?

Grapesoda 04-11-2013 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19572848)
can you provide an article where that states 'heterosexual couple abuses children'

if there isn't, that's some sick discrimination right there

child abuse is universal in western countries... EVEN gay couples abuse children. the facts are hard to determine due to political agendas on BOTH sides.. you would think with gays being a smalerl portion of the general population the numbers would be smaller but more than likely the same ratio.

I did find some numbers from the 80's but I chose not to believe them:


* Homosexuals commit more than 33% of all reported child molestations in the United States, which, assuming homosexuals make up 2% of the population, means that 1 in 20 homosexuals is a child molestor, while 1 in 490 heterosexuals is a child molestor (19)
* 73% of all homosexuals have had sex with boys under 19 years of age (9)
* Many homosexuals admit that they are pedophiles: "The love between men and boys is at the foundation of homosexuality" (22)

(9) Jay and Young. The Gay Report. Summit Books, 1979, p. 275

(19) Psychological Reports, 1986, 58, pp. 327-37

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1502263/posts


please explain how 'sick and discrimination' fit into that statement?

Grapesoda 04-11-2013 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19572848)
can you provide an article where that states 'heterosexual couple abuses children'

if there isn't, that's some sick discrimination right there

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_Richard_ 04-11-2013 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19572877)
come on, even you must know the difference between discrimination and attention-grabbing sensationalism?

you apparently don't :winkwink:

_Richard_ 04-11-2013 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19572919)
child abuse is universal in western countries... EVEN gay couples abuse children. the facts are hard to determine due to political agendas on BOTH sides.. you would think with gays being a smalerl portion of the general population the numbers would be smaller but more than likely the same ratio.

I did find some numbers from the 80's but I chose not to believe them:


* Homosexuals commit more than 33% of all reported child molestations in the United States, which, assuming homosexuals make up 2% of the population, means that 1 in 20 homosexuals is a child molestor, while 1 in 490 heterosexuals is a child molestor (19)
* 73% of all homosexuals have had sex with boys under 19 years of age (9)
* Many homosexuals admit that they are pedophiles: "The love between men and boys is at the foundation of homosexuality" (22)

(9) Jay and Young. The Gay Report. Summit Books, 1979, p. 275

(19) Psychological Reports, 1986, 58, pp. 327-37

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1502263/posts


please explain how 'sick and discrimination' fit into that statement?

did you seriously cite a republican catholic study on the evils of molesting children?

brassmonkey 04-11-2013 10:05 AM

damn :Oh crap :helpme

Rochard 04-11-2013 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Lichen (Post 19572744)
They allow sexual deviants to be around kids what did you think would happen?

Not only are the Gays sick but our courts are sick for allowing this to happen in the first place.

Fucking stunning that you work in the adult industry.

You work in the adult industry, and the general public defines all of us as "sick" and "perverted".

_Richard_ 04-11-2013 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19572956)
Fucking stunning that you work in the adult industry.

You work in the adult industry, and the general public defines all of us as "sick" and "perverted".

:2 cents::2 cents:

Jel 04-11-2013 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19572956)
Fucking stunning that you work in the adult industry.

You work in the adult industry, and the general public defines all of us as "sick" and "perverted".

To play devil's advocate slightly, are those that do, not allowed to think of us in such a way? Don't they have every right to think we are all sick and perverted? When did what other people think about you/I/someone else become such a big deal, and 'wrong'?

I don't agree with the poster, but what business is it of mine, or anyone else's, what his or her choices and beliefs are?

_Richard_ 04-11-2013 10:30 AM

when they start voting to make their beliefs yours?

Jel 04-11-2013 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19572990)
when they start voting to make their beliefs yours?

whut? and that's my business how? that's the whole purpose of the voting system, no?

_Richard_ 04-11-2013 10:39 AM

and the ultimate answer to your question

Best-In-BC 04-11-2013 10:43 AM

People worry because kids observe and alot of people have a issue with kids finding it acceptable to have a male lover.

Jel 04-11-2013 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19573006)
and the ultimate answer to your question

ok oh wise one :1orglaugh

Grapesoda 04-11-2013 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19572935)
did you seriously cite a republican catholic study on the evils of molesting children?

did you seriously not READ the line that said I chose not to believe the 'facts'? is that how you get by? not reading, ignoring and making accusations to feel superior? just askin... you know?

Grapesoda 04-11-2013 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19572956)
Fucking stunning that you work in the adult industry.

You work in the adult industry, and the general public defines all of us as "sick" and "perverted".

we don't know that the poster does in fact work in the adult industry Richard.. :2 cents:

_Richard_ 04-11-2013 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19573100)
did you seriously not READ the line that said I chose not to believe the 'facts'? is that how you get by? not reading, ignoring and making accusations to feel superior? just askin... you know?

so you did seriously post a link citing studies done by republican Catholics into the evils of homosexuals molesting children?

I know GFY has a hard time defining 'irony'

but i believe this fits

_Richard_ 04-11-2013 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19573020)
ok oh wise one :1orglaugh

is being able to interpret reality and common sense wise now?

why ask questions on the internet if you're gonna be upset by the answer?

Jman 04-11-2013 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Lichen (Post 19572744)
They allow sexual deviants to be around kids what did you think would happen?

Not only are the Gays sick but our courts are sick for allowing this to happen in the first place.

What a fucking IDIOT you are. I can bet anything you'll run away with your tail between your legs like the pussy you are instead of coming in this thread and let us know why you think that way.

Gay or NOT Gay... Abusing/raping a child is something worth being hanged :2 cents:

Jel 04-11-2013 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19572985)
To play devil's advocate slightly, are those that do, not allowed to think of us in such a way? Don't they have every right to think we are all sick and perverted? When did what other people think about you/I/someone else become such a big deal, and 'wrong'?

I don't agree with the poster, but what business is it of mine, or anyone else's, what his or her choices and beliefs are?

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19572990)
when they start voting to make their beliefs yours?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19573005)
whut? and that's my business how? that's the whole purpose of the voting system, no?

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19573006)
and the ultimate answer to your question

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19573020)
ok oh wise one :1orglaugh

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19573112)
is being able to interpret reality and common sense wise now?

why ask questions on the internet if you're gonna be upset by the answer?

Educate me as to the ultimate answer you gave - I'm not seeing it. Don't tell me I'm dumb, I know that already, just give me the answer as to what business it is of mine what another person thinks, and what them having a voter with the free will to vote for what they believe in has to do with it, if anything. In simple terms, because I'm *really* dumb.

alex.missyouth 04-11-2013 11:45 AM

They definitely didn't regard them as sons of their own. Fucking abusive motherfuckers.

_Richard_ 04-11-2013 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19573183)
Educate me as to the ultimate answer you gave - I'm not seeing it. Don't tell me I'm dumb, I know that already, just give me the answer as to what business it is of mine what another person thinks, and what them having a voter with the free will to vote for what they believe in has to do with it, if anything. In simple terms, because I'm *really* dumb.

you took a good first step and laid it out for yourself

if you really feel dumb, figuring out should help with that, and i don't wanna interfere :thumbsup

Jel 04-11-2013 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19573213)
you took a good first step and laid it out for yourself

if you really feel dumb, figuring out should help with that, and i don't wanna interfere :thumbsup

I could have put a million dollars on that. Here's what I figure: you, I, anyone - has zero right to have a say in what other people want to think and/or believe. Think about it - your basic human right is the right to think what YOU think, and you'd be (and in fact often are, regarding your own truther beliefs and whatnot) up in arms if anyone told you you HAD to think abc or xyz. Why are you so grandiose and arrogant as to believe you have that right though, when it comes to someone else?

From what I can make out, from your cryptic and evasive replies, is that because eg homophobes will 'get power', and 'make us' believe they beliefs are correct, and so on, until we are all under control by 'them'. So you need to control others' thinking, so that they don't in turn instil in you the 'wrong' type of thinking as defined by you.

Well fuck that thankyou very much, and fuck you for not having the balls to answer a direct question and state *your* beliefs. I have more respect for any ignoramus who is homophobic, racist, etc for at least standing by those beliefs :2 cents:

Sarah_Jayne 04-11-2013 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19572956)
Fucking stunning that you work in the adult industry.

You work in the adult industry, and the general public defines all of us as "sick" and "perverted".

I was pretty stunned by some of the openly stated homophobia that I heard at the Phoenix Forum. Right down to the limp hand gesture. I was actually pretty ashamed of those individuals at times.

Ah, I feel an article brewing in my head.

GrantMercury 04-11-2013 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Lichen (Post 19572744)
They allow sexual deviants to be around kids what did you think would happen?

Says the man posting on GFY, a site packed with sexual depravity. :1orglaugh

_Richard_ 04-11-2013 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19573237)
I could have put a million dollars on that. Here's what I figure: you, I, anyone - has zero right to have a say in what other people want to think and/or believe. Think about it - your basic human right is the right to think what YOU think, and you'd be (and in fact often are, regarding your own truther beliefs and whatnot) up in arms if anyone told you you HAD to think abc or xyz. Why are you so grandiose and arrogant as to believe you have that right though, when it comes to someone else?

From what I can make out, from your cryptic and evasive replies, is that because eg homophobes will 'get power', and 'make us' believe they beliefs are correct, and so on, until we are all under control by 'them'. So you need to control others' thinking, so that they don't in turn instil in you the 'wrong' type of thinking as defined by you.

Well fuck that thankyou very much, and fuck you for not having the balls to answer a direct question and state *your* beliefs. I have more respect for any ignoramus who is homophobic, racist, etc for at least standing by those beliefs :2 cents:

you, i, and everyone DO have a right to say what other people think and believe

in fact, you have the power to forcefully stop them. It's called murder, rape, and a series of other horrific crimes that society as a whole has decided 'isn't correct'.

Why democracy, and 'caring what other people think', is so important. Without information and the ability to counter-act misinformation, you (as a whole) could let down your country by allowing laws and bills to pass that could effectively remove constitutional rights based on 'beliefs and opinions'

I don't care, at all, what the 'belief of a homosexual' is, anymore than a 'heterosexual'. I care about people

you ever hear that quote about 'assumptions'?

Jel 04-11-2013 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19573413)
you, i, and everyone DO have a right to say what other people think and believe

in fact, you have the power to forcefully stop them. It's called murder, rape, and a series of other horrific crimes that society as a whole has decided 'isn't correct'.

Why democracy, and 'caring what other people think', is so important. Without information and the ability to counter-act misinformation, you (as a whole) could let down your country by allowing laws and bills to pass that could effectively remove constitutional rights based on 'beliefs and opinions'

I don't care, at all, what the 'belief of a homosexual' is, anymore than a 'heterosexual'. I care about people

you ever hear that quote about 'assumptions'?

the things you listed are crimes, and rightfully so. Having the belief that homosexuality is wrong, isn't. It's like caring if someone believes the sky is purple. If they *act* on that belief, to the detriment of others, that's a whole different ballgame of course. Democracy will survive in this day and age if some people are racist, or homophobic, or sexist, or whatever the fuck else they CHOOSE to be, in their thoughts.

To believe you have the right to TELL someone else what they should think is just plain wrong (I believe), though at the same time, if you believe it's your right to tell someone else what to believe or think, then crack on. You think you are gonna change a homophobe's mind because you told him to think a different way? Dream on :thumbsup

Jel 04-11-2013 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19573413)
you, i, and everyone DO have a right to say what other people think and believe

And no, we so don't have that 'right'. No human has that right over another human.

_Richard_ 04-11-2013 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19573562)
the things you listed are crimes, and rightfully so. Having the belief that homosexuality is wrong, isn't. It's like caring if someone believes the sky is purple. If they *act* on that belief, to the detriment of others, that's a whole different ballgame of course. Democracy will survive in this day and age if some people are racist, or homophobic, or sexist, or whatever the fuck else they CHOOSE to be, in their thoughts.

To believe you have the right to TELL someone else what they should think is just plain wrong (I believe), though at the same time, if you believe it's your right to tell someone else what to believe or think, then crack on. You think you are gonna change a homophobe's mind because you told him to think a different way? Dream on :thumbsup

is it a crime if we do it to other countries? or our own citizens in other countries, or our own citizens in our own country? when does it break down?

while changing a homophobes mind is one thing, gradual change public perception is another. which is what im talking about here, with democracy and 'caring what common beliefs and ideas are'. Cause the law saying 'the only good pornographer is a dead pornographer' is really only one election away

_Richard_ 04-11-2013 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19573565)
And no, we so don't have that 'right'. No human has that right over another human.

so why do we have crimes Jel?

WarChild 04-11-2013 03:15 PM

What if homosexuality is just nature's way of saying you're a genetic dead end? I mean it's most likely not the case, but still it is a possibility. Of course we could never explore such ideas because we might hurt somebody's feelings. That's the problem with this ultra liberal cry baby society. What this World needs is more people like me stomping out more people like Richard here. Really improve the whole place.

Jel 04-11-2013 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19573573)
is it a crime if we do it to other countries? or our own citizens in other countries, or our own citizens in our own country? when does it break down?

while changing a homophobes mind is one thing, gradual change public perception is another. which is what im talking about here, with democracy and 'caring what common beliefs and ideas are'. Cause the law saying 'the only good pornographer is a dead pornographer' is really only one election away

caring what common beliefs and ideas are is one thing, being unable to distinguish a 'want' for a 'right' is another.

Would I like it if they were no racists, homophobes, sexists, etc? Sure I would. Thinking I have any 'right' to force people to believe what *I* want them to is in my book, no different from a racist believing they have a 'right' to force me to believe in their ideals. A bit like the anti-religious nuts being just as bad as the religious nuts.


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