Presidential Debate II : Winner?
 

Much better debate than Round 1.

hey what was wrong with the 600 other nicks you've been using bro ???

This one goes to Barrack

The 1st win by romney was more clear... but its an Obama win tonight for sure

All the nicks Juicy and I had years ago were banned by the new administration. Haven't had any of them for years. Thanks for noticing though.

I disagree. Though I think Romney was to pushy.

Obama takes this one for sure. Only conservatives disagree ;)

I thought Romney clearly won the first one.

This one Obama clearly won.

FWIW: Romney was a disrespectful prick to the POTUS. I read many comments on Facebook from angry people about that. No matter what he is the current POTUS and that comes with a deserved respect. I don't think Romney's brazen disrespect is going to sit well with swing voters and women for sure.

Keep in mind. I don't care about either side. I believe they are all equally bad. Some of them are just better liars and car salesmen.

My thoughts.

I'd say it was a boring tie, except for when Obama said he called it a terrorist attack on the first day. That is a lie and a very very big important one!

Better question is who is the loser regardless of which one of these clown puppets are in office?

Answer: The American people

Obama did better but not good enough.

Obama doesn't need to win the debate.
Romney needs to win big or go home.
Romney didn't win.

The smartest move of the debate was calling Romney's nonspecific economic plan a 'sketchy deal'
Watch in the coming weeks how they compare his Sketchy Deal to the historic Fair Deal of Truman's era and the New Deal of FDR's era.

They can hammer him on the 'Sketchy Deal' from now until Election Day with older voters in Florida and other swing states who remember history better than younger people who tend not to vote and tend to vote for Democrats anyway. Direct mail, local radio ads and robo calling will move the needle on that issue with older voters.

I think most people will tow their party line on this debate and think their candidate did better than the other. Obama certainly did a much better job in this debate, at least by comparison to his performance in the first one. I'm curious to see how truly undecided voters respond. I'm more in that category than I am as a party voter (Obama got my vote last election) and my personal bottom line sentiment this election is that I'm not convinced the current administration is solving our issues and since a vote for the Libertarian party counts but won't effect change that I'm ready to let Romney give it a go for 4 years. If he fails, I'll fire him with my next vote.


Brad

In the Rose Garden the day after "no acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation."

How is that a lie?

You think Romney 1st debate win was not clear (its a general feedback hands down) or you think he won tonight or you dont understand my non-perfect english ?

Because i said obama won... but i dont know the expression : was to pushy

Sounds like you aren't that undecided. :winkwink:

Its nice to see you cared so much you posted.

Come on Brad, give Obama another chance :)

..he came in one of the worst usa crisis, he had the courage to make social plan even if the economy is still average.. he pays for old stuff from bush family... it wasnt too bad with all the circumstances

Look even the Dow Jones is not too bad... the worst of the crisis is behind

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$IN...d=p99376856941


http://stockcharts.com/c-sc/sc?s=$IN...=1350443232605

I watched for two weeks while He blamed it on a youtube video. and they called it a spontaneous act even though it happened on 9-11... Nobody in this country is stupid enough to believe that.

Or are you talking about the "unreleased tape"

Not showing a preference for the candidates one way or the other doesn't discount or marginalize my participation in political process. My vote counts just as much as those who are tunnel visioned to a singular party. A lot of us are not swooned by one or the other. I used to like Obama more, but I matured and woke up. If it wears a tie and is elected, I don't trust it any more. It's a trend I'm seeing more and more.

You can't be serious... the US economy is pretty much on the verge of collapse, and now that the Federal Reserve is rolling out QE3 and introducing something like $1 BILLION A DAY into the money supply with no end in sight and talks already of QE4... the writing is basically on the wall. This is simple economics. Don't be surprised at all if we start to experience hyperinflation very soon.

I think Romney won the first debate.

I think this debate would have been a tie if Obama didn't lie about the "terrorist thing" Since he did that I say Romney won.

I thought that this time Romney was to disrespectful to the current President. One of the big things for Romney in the first debate was that he was so respectful, and backed off when he seen that the President was down.

I do not think you understand how quotes work. Im quoting his speech from the day after.

Here it is in a greater length, again the day after...

"No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done." 9/12/12

He never called this an act of terrorism

Yes im serious, i didnt say it was over, but the worst is gone... for stockmarket wise hands down,,

Do you think the Dow Jones will go lower than the crash we had few years ago ? I really dont see that, look at the actual charts..

PS I dont related everything to dow Jones, but its one the my mesure because i like stock market... and if the american companies does ok, well its in the chart ! (like now)

If the definition of a good debate is watching one guy hand another guy a giant chunk of his ass, then that was a good debate.

I was watching Rachel Maddow and Chris Mathews on MSNBC try to suppress their orgasm over that debate. There was an Obabma pep rally right behind Mathews, and absurdity of the whole scene made me laugh out loud. I just realized they're even more biased than FOX.

Fox doesn't hide it well either, but at least the chicks are better to look at.

What did Nixon lie about exactly when you saw that "same look"? :)

I was 7 years old when Nixon became president and not quite 13 when he left office. I'm 51 years old. How old are you? 70? 80? lol

Romney defines running a small business as loading it with debt and chop shopping it.

I was a lifelong Republican until President Bush. Now I seem to be Democrat. I think it was a draw, and I think a draw for Obama is a loss.

I'm not going party line.

Obama did better, but it wasn't a clear win which makes Romney look more like a winner.

That is what you are calling a "very very big" lie? Reaching much?

You obviously have a lot to learn about economics. The level of the Dow Jones is not much of an indicator of how the overall economy is doing.

Like I said before, the Federal Reserve is printing a billion a day right now, completely destroying the dollar. We will soon experience hyperinflation, regardless of which one of these clowns are in office that you all like to argue back and forth about.

Actually he did in the rose garden like he said you can read the actual transcript.

It's not reaching, It is lying to the American people, He even went to Vegas to campaign the same day he found out.

Anyway it's boring....

I'm getting offline for the night.

"No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done. ". The president in the rose garden.

Show me a quote where he called it something other than an act of terror then.

Thanks

Kudos to Candy Crowley for not letting Romney squirm his way out of the lies he made regarding Obama's response to the embassy attack in Libya, when he totally misrepresented the President's response to the issue (and while Romney sidestepped his own disloyal and disrespectful comments which he made at the time).

Here is the uncut version of what Obama said:



And here is what Romney said at that time:



The defining moment of tonight's debate:



:smilie_we

ADG

OMG you guys are right he said that statement on the first day! Then for weeks blamed it on a youtube video.

also he said "acts of terror" He did not call it a terrorist attack!

Look how these fools argue over petty irrelevant bullshit.

He said she said, who said what type shit....... did Obama call the attacks terrorism the day after or didn't he? As if this actually matters somehow. You're all distracted from anything that actually matters. The bigger picture is difficult for people to focus on, they stay busy arguing over meaningless crap. Next you'll be arguing about who was wearing the nicer necktie.

Could you imagine if something as important as NDAA (the law Obama signed that allows U.S. citizens to be detained indefinitely without trial) was brought up in the debate? Or how the Federal Reserve is the main culprit behind the destruction of our currency and economy? They don't bring up these real issues because they want you to remain ignorant of them to begin with and then waste your time arguing with each other about absolutely nothing.

"Obama called it terrorism the day after the attack!"

"No he didn't!"

"Yes he did!"

"No he didn't!"

"Yes he did, go read the transcript!!"

God damn you people are pathetic. lol, it's like watching children on a playground.