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nastyking 01-29-2012 06:47 PM

Looking for quality SEO Hosters
 
Hey,

I'm looking for quality SEO hosters.

Please post your contact information and how many Class C you could provide.

ICQ: 12-93-93

baddog 01-29-2012 07:01 PM

http://clients.gotwebhost.com/contact.php

We have about 125 different C's.

nastyking 01-29-2012 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18719794)
http://clients.gotwebhost.com/contact.php

We have about 125 different C's.

Already sent you an IM.

NoWhErE 01-29-2012 07:59 PM

Siggy Wiggy

Rothstein 01-29-2012 08:00 PM

don't waste your money.

baddog 01-29-2012 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nastyking (Post 18719861)
Already sent you an IM.

If by IM you mean ICQ, I got nothing here. Sorry. Go ahead and use that link, I will be the one to respond

darksoul 01-30-2012 12:39 AM

hit up http://www.mojohost.com/ They got you covered.

DamianJ 01-30-2012 01:43 AM

Has anyone, *ever* provided a white paper or case study proving that this whole thing works?

darksoul 01-30-2012 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18720203)
Has anyone, *ever* provided a white paper or case study proving that this whole thing works?

more likely a black paper.
It works if you know how to use it, its not for your everdays' site.

facialfreak 01-30-2012 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18720203)
Has anyone, *ever* provided a white paper or case study proving that this whole thing works?

Seriously?!? :Oh crap

SEO for hire (including the infamous multiple C class myth) is perhaps the largest internet swindle ...

SEO for hire is to the WWW what THe SeX PiStOLs were to the music industry in the late 70s ... They could not play "music" to save their lives ... but still managed to swindle the music industry out of more than 11 million pounds!! (a king's ransom back in those days)

I am shocked that after 8+ years the multiple C class myth is still going very strong ... especially when Jill Whelan, Danny Sulivan, and Mutt Cutts have all very publicly debunked the myth ...

facialfreak 01-30-2012 02:07 AM

I own several number one keywords and 2-3 word keyword phrases -- in the consumer electronics arena -- and most of my blogs are all on the same IP block ... many on the same IP .... and ALL inter-link to themselves and each other extensively. There is no mistaking that they are all my sites. I play by googles guidelines, and I get lots of google love.

Some people just really like doing things the hard way I guess .... :Oh crap

Moose 01-30-2012 02:09 AM

99.999% of "seo hosts" are designed to separate newbies from their money. The internet does not work off of "class c's"

facialfreak 01-30-2012 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moose (Post 18720240)
99.999% of "seo hosts" are designed to separate newbies from their money. The internet does not work off of "class c's"

QFFT!! :thumbsup

faxxaff 01-30-2012 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nastyking (Post 18719775)
Hey,

I'm looking for quality SEO hosters.

Please post your contact information and how many Class C you could provide.

ICQ: 12-93-93

Different C classes won't help for SEO. If at all you will need different A classes from different hosts and data centers. And of course all domains will need different who is info. Anything else is just not working.

DamageX 01-30-2012 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by facialfreak (Post 18720235)
I own several number one keywords and 2-3 word keyword phrases -- in the consumer electronics arena -- and most of my blogs are all on the same IP block ... many on the same IP .... and ALL inter-link to themselves and each other extensively. There is no mistaking that they are all my sites. I play by googles guidelines, and I get lots of google love.

Penalty waiting to happen. Hope you avoid it though, but you're pushing your luck.

Spudstr 01-30-2012 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 18720394)
Penalty waiting to happen. Hope you avoid it though, but you're pushing your luck.

And yet all it takes is one person to say the contrary for everyone to believe.

Rothstein 01-30-2012 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moose (Post 18720240)
99.999% of "seo hosts" are designed to separate newbies from their money. The internet does not work off of "class c's"

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

so true.

AdultKing 01-30-2012 11:05 AM

SEO Hosting is the biggest crock of shit.

Google doesn't care about you being on the same IP.

So called SEO Hosting is a myth generated by people who either have no fucking clue or want to make money selling snake oil to people who thing they will get some magical benefit.

AdultKing 01-30-2012 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18719794)
http://clients.gotwebhost.com/contact.php

We have about 125 different C's.

Can you provide any tangible evidence your service is anything other than snake oil ?

Prove to me , please, how being on different class C IP's will help any site group.

I'm pretty sure you cant. However prove me wrong.

porno jew 01-30-2012 11:11 AM

try webair shared hosting. the end.

facialfreak 01-30-2012 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 18720394)
Penalty waiting to happen. Hope you avoid it though, but you're pushing your luck.

You could not be more wrong ... I have had these blogs since 2005, and do quite well with them in SERPs for chosen KWs and phrases ...

Play by Google's rules, and you do not have to spend your time trying to hide from them.

DamageX 01-30-2012 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 18721053)
Can you provide any tangible evidence your service is anything other than snake oil ?

LOL, is that a rhetorical question? :1orglaugh

Quote:

Originally Posted by facialfreak (Post 18721080)
You could not be more wrong ... I have had these blogs since 2005, and do quite well with them in SERPs for chosen KWs and phrases ...

Play by Google's rules, and you do not have to spend your time trying to hide from them.

Heavily interlinking sites is NOT playing by Google's rules. As for having sites since whathefuckever and never having been penalized, thus assuming you never will either... That's truly retarded. Just look into all who got slapped by Panda, who had sites for even longer than you have, and now are crying their eyes out 'cause Google took their bread and butter away.

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AdultKing 01-30-2012 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 18721106)
LOL, is that a rhetorical question? :1orglaugh

Heavily interlinking sites is NOT playing by Google's rules. As for having sites since whathefuckever and never having been penalized, thus assuming you never will either... That's truly retarded. Just look into all who got slapped by Panda, who had sites for even longer than you have, and now are crying their eyes out 'cause Google took their bread and butter away.

I agree. Quality Content gets natural links. It's so simple it's ridiculous.

Google has signaled, with Panda and other initiatives, that crap content doesn't belong in the index or is heavily penalized.

Anyone heavily linking sites is as moronic as the people who buy and sell so called SEO hosting.

I have no sympathy for morons who buy and sell SEO hosting on multiple class C's. It's a scam and should be called out for the sham that it is.

baddog 01-30-2012 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 18721053)
Can you provide any tangible evidence your service is anything other than snake oil ?

Prove to me , please, how being on different class C IP's will help any site group.

I'm pretty sure you cant. However prove me wrong.

I am trying to decide what would be gained. Personally, I am of the opinion that they are of no use to you. We have hundreds of customers that obviously feel they are of assistance to them.

It comes down to this, if you do not know how to use them, they are probably of no use to you. I don't fault you for it.

trevesty 01-30-2012 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 18721106)
LOL, is that a rhetorical question? :1orglaugh



Heavily interlinking sites is NOT playing by Google's rules. As for having sites since whathefuckever and never having been penalized, thus assuming you never will either... That's truly retarded. Just look into all who got slapped by Panda, who had sites for even longer than you have, and now are crying their eyes out 'cause Google took their bread and butter away.

If the sites are similar and he's not spamming them(aka - the content quality is good and how he links isn't intrusive), then there won't be any penalties.



As to the rest of the thread..


I have a bridge for sale - it'll help with your SEO about the same as an "SEO" host. :2 cents:

AdultKing 01-30-2012 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18721407)
I am trying to decide what would be gained. Personally, I am of the opinion that they are of no use to you. We have hundreds of customers that obviously feel they are of assistance to them.

It comes down to this, if you do not know how to use them, they are probably of no use to you. I don't fault you for it.

Yet you cannot justify the service you offer, or refuse to.

Do you have any evidence that the service you provide delivers tangible benefits ? If so what is it ?

If you're unwilling to explain why this service is worthwhile then my original point is proven.

baddog 01-30-2012 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 18721425)
Yet you cannot justify the service you offer, or refuse to.

Do you have any evidence that the service you provide delivers tangible benefits ? If so what is it ?

If you're unwilling to explain why this service is worthwhile then my original point is proven.

I told you, it is of no use to you. I know zilch about your situation so how could I possibly explain how it might benefit you?

AdultKing 01-30-2012 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18721439)
I told you, it is of no use to you. I know zilch about your situation so how could I possibly explain how it might benefit you?

You're comprehension skills seem lacking.

Please explain how having sites on multiple IP addresses can benefit anyone from an SEO point of view.

NoWhErE 01-30-2012 02:17 PM

If your going to have 5 sites on the same IP that interlink : no biggie. The links won't be as valuable as coming from a site thats on another IP, thats it.


Have 100+ sites on the same IP and interlink them? You may get slapped or the links will count for nothing because everything is coming from your own network.


Have 100 sites on different C class IPs, hidden reg info, etc etc and it will seem like all the cross linking is natural and carry more weight.

If you don't believe or understand the concept, thats fine. But SEO hosting are for those that build huge networks of sites in order to promote themselves and/or sell links.

iwantchixx 01-30-2012 02:43 PM

Search engines care about how relevant you are. Period. Maybe a couple years ago I would say put everything seperate but it doesnt hurt at all having your stuff relatively closely knit to each other. Relevance is what is important.

there are many benefits from having stuff separated but it has nothing to do with c-classes themselves or even a-classes for that matter. Those benefits are dependent on your business model.

if that was the case then all free blog services would have peoples sites listed page 10+ on serps.

Now if you are doing something blackhat or suspicious.. then yeah separate classes are needed so you don't lose everything at once but then you have to ask yourself different questions...

AdultKing 01-30-2012 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 18721535)

If you don't believe or understand the concept, thats fine. But SEO hosting are for those that build huge networks of sites in order to promote themselves and/or sell links.

I understand the concept, it's just that nobody can prove a benefit. There is no doubt that it's a load of crap. Interesting to note that you promote SEO hosting, so you're speaking from the perspective of a person who benefits from propagating the SEO hosting myth.

baddog 01-30-2012 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 18721635)
I understand the concept, it's just that nobody can prove a benefit. There is no doubt that it's a load of crap.

And it is this comment that makes it clear that you have your mind set. Nothing ANYONE says or shows you will change that. It really is just that simple.

WiredGuy 01-30-2012 03:34 PM

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Christina T. 01-30-2012 04:36 PM

Interesting thread. I spread out my IP's over many classes. Do you really think there is no benefit to this? I pay additional to have this

CyberHustler 01-30-2012 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by facialfreak (Post 18720235)
I own several number one keywords and 2-3 word keyword phrases -- in the consumer electronics arena -- and most of my blogs are all on the same IP block ... many on the same IP .... and ALL inter-link to themselves and each other extensively. There is no mistaking that they are all my sites. I play by googles guidelines, and I get lots of google love.

Some people just really like doing things the hard way I guess .... :Oh crap

:thumbsup

NoWhErE 01-30-2012 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 18721635)
I understand the concept, it's just that nobody can prove a benefit. There is no doubt that it's a load of crap. Interesting to note that you promote SEO hosting, so you're speaking from the perspective of a person who benefits from propagating the SEO hosting myth.

Its not a myth, its part of a certain strategy that some people understand and some don't.

I fly the banner in my sig because I actually quite like the host and find they are a good service for people looking to use their type of service.

Like I said, believe in it or not, thats your choice.

nastyking 01-30-2012 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 18719865)
Siggy Wiggy

Nvmd ...

faxxaff 01-30-2012 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christina T. (Post 18721874)
Interesting thread. I spread out my IP's over many classes. Do you really think there is no benefit to this? I pay additional to have this

If it's with same host/location/server, IP won't matter.


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