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AdPatron 07-30-2011 06:17 PM

Can't wait for Aug 3rd
 
I really, really hope nothing is signed and the US goes into default. End social security, end medicaid, end medicare would be good too.

RyuLion 07-30-2011 06:23 PM

I can't wait for tomorrow. :p
..then Monday, etc..

AdPatron 07-30-2011 06:31 PM

Not me, I don't have anything planned for Sun, Mon, Tues.


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Originally Posted by RyuLion (Post 18319208)
I can't wait for tomorrow. :p
..then Monday, etc..


theking 07-30-2011 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pornless (Post 18319205)
I really, really hope nothing is signed and the US goes into default. End social security, end medicaid, end medicare would be good too.

Even if nothing is signed to raise the debt limit...there will not be a default on the debt. The interest will be paid just as it has always been. Social Security...Medicaid and Medicare will not end. The military will be paid...as well as the Veterans. Everything else will be up in the air and there will be repercussions.

AdPatron 07-30-2011 06:32 PM

That's what you think.



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Originally Posted by theking (Post 18319215)
Even if nothing is signed to raise the debt limit...there will not be a default on the debt. The interest will be paid just as it has always been. Social Security...Medicaid and Medicare will not end. The military will be paid...as well as the Veterans. Everything else will be up in the air and there will be repercussions.


BlackCrayon 07-30-2011 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Pornless (Post 18319205)
I really, really hope nothing is signed and the US goes into default. End social security, end medicaid, end medicare would be good too.

you must be a broke loser who doesn't care if their business crashes and burns, if you even have a business. most of the people who hope for a default have shit fuck all or think they are smarter than everyone else and can somehow gain from the situation.

AdPatron 07-30-2011 06:48 PM

I never said anything about businesses crashing / burning. Don't put words in my mouth ass wipe.

What is "shit fuck"?

Anyone can gain from the market falling, just like you can. The dumb asses are those that leave their money in the market while it crashes. That's just pure stupidity.




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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18319219)
you must be a broke loser who doesn't care if their business crashes and burns, if you even have a business. most of the people who hope for a default have shit fuck all or think they are smarter than everyone else and can somehow gain from the situation.


theking 07-30-2011 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Pornless (Post 18319216)
That's what you think.

It is what the lawmakers have stated...so based upon their statements...yes it is what I think.

AdPatron 07-30-2011 06:53 PM

And you believed them?! You dumb ass.


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Originally Posted by theking (Post 18319229)
It is what the lawmakers have stated...so based upon their statements...yes it is what I think.


theking 07-30-2011 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pornless (Post 18319232)
And you believed them?! You dumb ass.

You are now dismissed...thank you very much.

Tempest 07-30-2011 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pornless (Post 18319205)
I really, really hope nothing is signed and the US goes into default. End social security, end medicaid, end medicare would be good too.

The US won't default.. They'll pay their debts and some of the major bills but then there would be shutdowns just like 95/96.

AdPatron 07-30-2011 07:00 PM

No problem dumb ass. Go home, pick up your toys like a little baby. :1orglaugh


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Originally Posted by theking (Post 18319236)
You are now dismissed...thank you very much.


AdPatron 07-30-2011 07:02 PM

I'm hoping for a complete default, but I'll take what I can get.


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Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 18319237)
The US won't default.. They'll pay their debts and some of the major bills but then there would be shutdowns just like 95/96.


BlackCrayon 07-30-2011 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pornless (Post 18319225)
I never said anything about businesses crashing / burning. Don't put words in my mouth ass wipe.

What is "shit fuck"?

Anyone can gain from the market falling, just like you can. The dumb asses are those that leave their money in the market while it crashes. That's just pure stupidity.

i don't play the market. i belive its corrupt and a large part of the troubles we are having now. they are buying and selling things 2,3,4 times over that only exist on paper. anyways, i run a business that relies on small to medium businesses having capital to spend so i and millions more would be screwed by such a thing.

GAMEFINEST 07-30-2011 07:25 PM

they wont default...

Bill8 07-30-2011 07:25 PM

It might be very painful but it would teach americans a lesson.

That might make the pain very worthwhile.

I personally rather hope we do crash into the debt ceiling, and then default. Go thru a month of misery, have all of our interest rates jacked, watch millions go without money, see the markets writhe in pain.

Sometimes a near death experience can be transformational.

AdPatron 07-30-2011 07:28 PM

I'm never in the market longer than I need to. I'm all out right now, but not before I made a nice bag of money from BIDU last week.

How is it a large part of the troubles?

What about the over valued real estate that AIG insured? Who was the dumb ass that allowed that to happen?


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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18319255)
i don't play the market. i belive its corrupt and a large part of the troubles we are having now. they are buying and selling things 2,3,4 times over that only exist on paper. anyways, i run a business that relies on small to medium businesses having capital to spend so i and millions more would be screwed by such a thing.


L-Pink 07-30-2011 07:29 PM

Sure, that will happen.

AdPatron 07-30-2011 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill8 (Post 18319258)
Sometimes a near death experience can be transformational.


Ding, Ding, Ding. Exactly what I want.

Captain Kawaii 07-30-2011 07:30 PM

NPR reported that if the US does default, one of the things it means for us, is the major credit cards companies and banks will raise interest rates on credit cards...it dawned on me that maybe thats what this is all about...besides all the BS fronting shit...a nice little tick up in credit card rates would be good for them...

AdPatron 07-30-2011 07:37 PM

I thought about that the other day. What if this is just some big scam for a few to make themselves extremely rich?


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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 18319263)
NPR reported that if the US does default, one of the things it means for us, is the major credit cards companies and banks will raise interest rates on credit cards...it dawned on me that maybe thats what this is all about...besides all the BS fronting shit...a nice little tick up in credit card rates would be good for them...


PornStarToys 07-30-2011 07:43 PM

I agree, suffering among all seniors, adults, and children!!!!

Holy fuck you two are sick. Just leave the fucking country so none of us have to listen to your shit.

AdPatron 07-30-2011 07:58 PM

What about the tax payers that suffer from being forced to give up a percentage of their pay checks to people they don't fucking know? Are you a socialist?


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Originally Posted by PornStarToys (Post 18319275)
I agree, suffering among all seniors, adults, and children!!!!

Holy fuck you two are sick. Just leave the fucking country so none of us have to listen to your shit.


suesheboy 07-30-2011 07:59 PM

Default is for losers

stinkyfingers 07-30-2011 08:11 PM

dance puppets dance. default ... debt ceiling ... are you shitting your pants yet? LOL lets party

Spunky 07-30-2011 10:00 PM

You guys better pay back Canada..we be cutting off the power and the maple syrup

AdPatron 07-30-2011 10:02 PM

Go ahead, shut it off.


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Originally Posted by Spunky (Post 18319385)
You guys better pay back Canada..we be cutting off the power and the maple syrup


Agent 488 07-30-2011 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 18319263)
NPR reported that if the US does default, one of the things it means for us, is the major credit cards companies and banks will raise interest rates on credit cards...it dawned on me that maybe thats what this is all about...besides all the BS fronting shit...a nice little tick up in credit card rates would be good for them...

was thinking that as well. even if they don't default (which they wont) rates will rise and suck even more money to the banks.

makes sense as all trails for the tea party now lead back to wall street and big business.

glowlite 07-30-2011 10:45 PM

Pornless = Clueless

Bill8 07-30-2011 11:18 PM

Really, all dems and independents who lean dem should be hoping for us to hit the debt ceiling, for a suspension of payments, then a default.

You should be hoping for a few months of economic misery, for the checks not to appear in the mailboxes or the accounts, for the suffering, and yes for the deaths.

You republicans should be dreading it. And see in it the beginning of your end.

CurrentlySober 07-31-2011 12:35 AM

I cant wait for the 1st...

Cause its my birthday ! :GFYBand

So everyone has to be nice to me all day !!!

Failed 07-31-2011 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Pornless (Post 18319205)
I really, really hope nothing is signed and the US goes into default. End social security, end medicaid, end medicare would be good too.

I don't believe people who wish this fully understand the scope of what they're wishing for. Why would you want people who are fighting to defend this country not to get paid, nor those who have fought and were injured to the point of not being able to work again while defending our freedoms. That's beyond anti-American!

Then you have those people who have worked their entire lives and paid into the system their entire lives, who were told by our government they could count on that money when they retire. This wasn't lack of planning, it was trusting their government and expecting to get back a piece of what they put in.

The disabled, who also had to pay into the system in order to get this INSURANCE benefit. They were hurt and now wish to collect on what's rightfully theirs.

Of course there are abuses of the system, certainly not the majority.

In total, about 55 million people receive social security payments. Even if the approximate payment per month is only $1,000, that's a decrease of $55 billion dollars just for August. This will not just hurt those people who receive the benefits, but our entire economy will be affected. Every day business will lose mass amounts of money, mass layoffs will ensue, we'll be thrown into a spiral of internal collapse that has never been seen before.

You think you'll benefit from this?

55 million pissed off people, out of work, no money to pay for rent, food, etc. Good God, even if only a small % are pissed off enough to fight back, imagine the chaos on the streets.

I wish people would think before they speak/type.

Barry-xlovecam 07-31-2011 05:34 AM

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[If] the debt ceiling circus is not resolved, it is going to be a massive drag. If it is resolved the way the Tea Party wants it resolved, it will still be a huge drag on growth.

Anyone who suggests that it is possible to cure the budget deficit by only cutting non-defense spending excluding transfer payments like Medicaid and Social Security is someone who quite simply should stay off of Jeff Foxworthy?s show, since they clearly are not smarter than a fifth grader. ...
zacks.com

They sum it up nicely ...
Sorry ass state of affairs ...

seeandsee 07-31-2011 05:52 AM

super hero obama to solve this problem

tony286 07-31-2011 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18319219)
you must be a broke loser who doesn't care if their business crashes and burns, if you even have a business. most of the people who hope for a default have shit fuck all or think they are smarter than everyone else and can somehow gain from the situation.

Dont be mad at him. He is just saying what the pundits tell him. You are right so many businesses run on credit, employment agencies for one, companies that do a 60 to 90 net.
What I worry about is when those credit cards people use to buy porn with go to 30 to 40 % interest they will go sit in a drawer and sales will dry up. Also these people that think some how things will be better if this happens. Like if it all crashes and burns things will be better afterwards. Nope it will get really really bad for a long time.And most here dont have the means to sit something like that out.
This isnt about debt its they want to make Obama a one term president. They dont care if they sacrifice the economy to do it.Why else do you think they want to break the raising of the debt ceiling in two parts so the second part is right before the election. Watch they take it all back, they will start spending like drunk sailors again like they did during Bush and Reagan. Its a game and I blame Obama for playing it with them. I wish Hilary had won at least she had balls.

iamtam 07-31-2011 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Pornless (Post 18319205)
I really, really hope nothing is signed and the US goes into default. End social security, end medicaid, end medicare would be good too.

tea bagger!

Failed 07-31-2011 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18319785)
Stop beating your fucking drum and being a tool. Military spending is out of control. I was watching C-span this morning as congressional representatives for The U.S. DoD cry about they've cut back so much, bases have to ration their toilet paper and how the Marines are using obsolete equipment bla bla bla.

Fuck that. We have 11 active aircraft carriers and building 2 more at $14 billion a pop. The rest of the worlds active carriers in comparison to ours is 3. Or why are we building Raptors for a $150 million totaling $65 billion? Or, how does the DoD lose $8.7 billion?

Here's a great idea, stop building aircraft carriers, raptors, watch our money, pay the soldiers, and buy toilet paper. Better yet, bring them fucking home.

My argument was for soldiers pay. Please read before you rant. By defaulting, our soldiers won't be paid. I was not arguing for or against other military spending. Is military spending out of control, absolutely, but not paying our soldiers isn't a solution.

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18319785)
How about all the police, teacher, town, city, State, Fed etc pensions funds who invested in treasury bonds watch their retirement portfolios lose 30% in 2 years because the treasury won't stop printing money because of debt ceiling raises? So yes, the majority are being abused as you spout, raise the debt limit and print/spend more money.

Again, this has nothing to do with the people who've already paid into the system, such as seniors and the disabled. They paid money to ensure their entitlement benefits. It's not their fault the government mishandled these funds and they don't deserve a default

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18319785)
Yes, I wish they absolutely would.

No, you absolutely don't. This wouldn't be good for anyone. Perhaps this was just you acting tough, more than sensible.

I think your rant was more an argument against talking points you've heard on the news than against the points I was making. Calm down, take a breath, and than try again!

AdPatron 07-31-2011 08:53 AM

How original.

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Originally Posted by glowlite (Post 18319474)
Pornless = Clueless


AdPatron 07-31-2011 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Failed (Post 18319715)
I don't believe people who wish this fully understand the scope of what they're wishing for. Why would you want people who are fighting to defend this country not to get paid, nor those who have fought and were injured to the point of not being able to work again while defending our freedoms. That's beyond anti-American!


Then they shouldn't have joined. They knew the risks of going to combat, why do I have to support their decisions to go fight?


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Originally Posted by Failed (Post 18319715)
Then you have those people who have worked their entire lives and paid into the system their entire lives, who were told by our government they could count on that money when they retire. This wasn't lack of planning, it was trusting their government and expecting to get back a piece of what they put in.

Suckers lol.




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Originally Posted by Failed (Post 18319715)
The disabled, who also had to pay into the system in order to get this INSURANCE benefit. They were hurt and now wish to collect on what's rightfully theirs.

This is false. A majority of the disabled have never paid anything into the system.



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Originally Posted by Failed (Post 18319715)
In total, about 55 million people receive social security payments. Even if the approximate payment per month is only $1,000, that's a decrease of $55 billion dollars just for August. This will not just hurt those people who receive the benefits, but our entire economy will be affected. Every day business will lose mass amounts of money, mass layoffs will ensue, we'll be thrown into a spiral of internal collapse that has never been seen before. You think you'll benefit from this? 55 million pissed off people, out of work, no money to pay for rent, food, etc. Good God, even if only a small % are pissed off enough to fight back, imagine the chaos on the streets. I wish people would think before they speak/type.


They were duped by those they elected. If they didn't pay SS, they'd already have their money and then they wouldn't be pissed off.

cykoe6 07-31-2011 09:01 AM

There will be no default regardless of what happens this weekend.


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