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onwebcam 05-04-2011 04:05 PM

The lies keep unfolding
 
Blackout during raid on bin Laden compound

The head of the CIA admitted yesterday that there was no live video footage of the raid on Osama bin Laden's compound as further doubts emerged about the US version of events.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-compound.html

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halfpint 05-04-2011 04:14 PM

I posted that here .. I blame it all on intel .. The gov never tell lies

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1021146

helterskelter808 05-04-2011 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 18109233)
Blackout during raid on bin Laden compound

The head of the CIA admitted yesterday that there was no live video footage of the raid on Osama bin Laden's compound as further doubts emerged about the US version of events.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-compound.html

IOW they want avoid calls to release it because of what it shows.

d-null 05-04-2011 04:27 PM

this lack of credibility and honesty is really unsettling, makes one question so much more of what is presented to us :Oh crap

halfpint 05-04-2011 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-null (Post 18109305)
this lack of credibility and honesty is really unsettling, makes one question so much more of what is presented to us :Oh crap

Yep the more they keep changing the story the more its making them look stupid..

DaLord 05-04-2011 04:32 PM

Who gives a flying fuck. Evil has been removed. Case closed.

halfpint 05-04-2011 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaLord (Post 18109314)
Who gives a flying fuck. Evil has been removed. Case closed.

It dont work like that, the more lies the US gov come out with, the less credability they have and for a super power its pretty bad. Even if osama is dead it wont change a damm thing with these terro organisation they will just replace him with somebody else and it wont suprise me if we get retailition because these groups are idiot fanatics who never learn and dont care about living or dying or who they kill

TheDoc 05-04-2011 04:46 PM

What's the lie? The White House never said it was a live feed.

onwebcam 05-04-2011 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18109344)
What's the lie? The White House never said it was a live feed.


A dramatic photo by White House photographer Pete Souza catches the drama in the Situation Room on Sunday, as President Obama and his war cabinet watch what a Defense Department official told me was a live feed of the operation.

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2011...ary_war_c.html

http://www.flickr.com/photos/whiteho...in/photostream

TheDoc 05-04-2011 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 18109351)
A dramatic photo by White House photographer Pete Souza catches the drama in the Situation Room on Sunday, as President Obama and his war cabinet watch what a Defense Department official told me was a live feed of the operation.

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2011...ary_war_c.html

Sounds like they reported it wrong to me...

The caption on the picture says "President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden, along with members of the national security team, receive an update on the mission..."

Where does it say live feed?

TheDoc 05-04-2011 04:54 PM

Of course when dealing with stuff like this it's always best to get it from the actual source, that way you don't get any twists.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/whiteho.../in/datetaken/

"President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden, along with members of the national security team, receive an update on the mission against Osama bin Laden in the Situation Room of the White House"

halfpint 05-04-2011 04:55 PM

The lies

Obama was armed

They watched the whole live feed

The Pakistani Gov knew about the operation

Mr Obama believed releasing the photographs would be a national security risk, Mr Carney said, and the president's team agreed with him.

The US president's decision contradicted a statement made a day earlier by CIA director Leon Panetta, who said the photos would be released at some stage.

SDA CASH - Banned for Life AGAIN 05-04-2011 04:56 PM

Why is that you do not see any MAC computers in that room?

merina0803 05-04-2011 04:56 PM

i am removing links now

TheDoc 05-04-2011 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 18109371)
The lies

Obama was armed

They watched the whole live feed

The Pakistani Gov knew about the operation

Mr Obama believed releasing the photographs would be a national security risk, Mr Carney said, and the president's team agreed with him.

The US president's decision contradicted a statement made a day earlier by CIA director Leon Panetta, who said the photos would be released at some stage.

The twists....

Obama never carries a gun.

Fox probably reported that.

Yep.

That's his choice.

That's part of having a boss.

directfiesta 05-04-2011 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18109354)
Sounds like they reported it wrong to me...

The caption on the picture says "President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden, along with members of the national security team, receive an update on the mission..."

Where does it say live feed?

True... They never lie ....

http://i.usatoday.net/life/_photos/2...man_gloryx.jpg

Ask this guy ..... :Oh crap

onwebcam 05-04-2011 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18109368)
Of course when dealing with stuff like this it's always best to get it from the actual source, that way you don't get any twists.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/whiteho.../in/datetaken/

"President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden, along with members of the national security team, receive an update on the mission against Osama bin Laden in the Situation Room of the White House"

The original story was they watched it all live..



MANY news sources quoted them as saying this...

theking 05-04-2011 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 18109371)
The lies

Obama was armed

They watched the whole live feed

The Pakistani Gov knew about the operation

Mr Obama believed releasing the photographs would be a national security risk, Mr Carney said, and the president's team agreed with him.

The US president's decision contradicted a statement made a day earlier by CIA director Leon Panetta, who said the photos would be released at some stage.

The buck stops with the President...not with any of his subordinates or the media.

woj 05-04-2011 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18109368)
Of course when dealing with stuff like this it's always best to get it from the actual source, that way you don't get any twists.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/whiteho.../in/datetaken/

"President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden, along with members of the national security team, receive an update on the mission against Osama bin Laden in the Situation Room of the White House"

that's not even the point, who cares if President was watching it live or not?
the point is, it sounds like the footage of the key part of the mission mysteriously doesn't exist due to some "blackout"... :2 cents:

TheDoc 05-04-2011 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 18109383)
True... They never lie ....

http://i.usatoday.net/life/_photos/2...man_gloryx.jpg

Ask this guy ..... :Oh crap

They tried to cover up friendly fire and paint the guy a hero? Oh my..... the lies are over flowing.

TheDoc 05-04-2011 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 18109391)
that's not even the point, who cares if President was watching it live or not?
the point is, it sounds like the footage of the key part of the mission mysteriously doesn't exist due to some "blackout"... :2 cents:

Then why was it brought up if it's not the point?

A 25 min black out during the heat of the raid is mysterious? That's a pretty far reach... I've had my radio go down, all types of shit break just from walking in the bush, let alone all the crap that does go wrong in the heat of battle.

directfiesta 05-04-2011 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18109392)
They tried to cover up friendly fire and paint the guy a hero? Oh my..... the lies are over flowing.

A lie ... is ... a ... lie ....

.. and not the first or even last one ...:2 cents:

halfpint 05-04-2011 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18109379)
The twists....

Obama never carries a gun.

Fox probably reported that.

Yep.

That's his choice.

That's part of having a boss.

lol i meant osama damm their names are to much a like

It was reported on the BBC news and various other news outlets

I was listening to a BBC2 radio program and they were discussin this today and the more the story started to change the people were ringing in and doubting that most of what the US Gov are saying was true

They should have got their story correct before releasing anything from the white house

halfpint 05-04-2011 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 18109390)
The buck stops with the President...not with any of his subordinates or the media.

Thats bullshit and you know it and if you believe that the president of most countrys apart from the dictatorships has the last say you are living in a dream world buddy

TheDoc 05-04-2011 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 18109402)
A lie ... is ... a ... lie ....

.. and not the first or even last one ...:2 cents:

A lie isn't a lie... a lie saying a guy is a hero and a lie to the nation about going to war and you kill 100k+ people during the process, is a hell of a difference.

And... we all know the Gov lies, hell everyone here lies. Do we discredit everything we say? Of course not..

woj 05-04-2011 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18109400)
Then why was it brought up if it's not the point?

A 25 min black out during the heat of the raid is mysterious? That's a pretty far reach... I've had my radio go down, all types of shit break just from walking in the bush, let alone all the crap that does go wrong in the heat of battle.

yea, it seems unusual to me that video feed of all 6 soldiers involved malfunctioned during critical part of the mission, forever destroying proof of what really happened...

Aren't their video feeds designed exactly for missions like that? Or perhaps they just wear them for shits and giggles, so they can upload funny videos to youtube?

theking 05-04-2011 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 18109409)
Thats bullshit and you know it and if you believe that the president of most countrys apart from the dictatorships has the last say you are living in a dream world buddy

My point was/is you are posting comments made by the media and the Presidents subordinates...not what the President stated...sport.

theking 05-04-2011 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 18109418)
yea, it seems unusual to me that video feed of all 6 soldiers involved malfunctioned during critical part of the mission, forever destroying proof of what really happened...

Aren't the video feeds designed exactly for missions like that? Or perhaps they just wear them for shits and giggles, so they can upload funny videos to youtube?

Well...who has said "video feed of all 6 soldiers involved malfunctioned"? In addition I am satisfied that there was but a single satellite feed back to the CONUS.

halfpint 05-04-2011 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 18109419)
My point was/is you are posting comments made by the media and the Presidents subordinates...not what the President stated...sport.

ahh right sorry miss read your post

The fact is though this was comming from the white house which is supposed to be "media controlled" So by all of the wrong info been giving out puts a damper on the whole raid and does make the whole thing look stupid. It also does not help with convincing people that what took place was the truth

woj 05-04-2011 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 18109434)
Well...who has said "video feed of all 6 soldiers involved malfunctioned"? In addition I am satisfied that there was but a single satellite feed back to the CONUS.

"The absence of footage of the raid has led to conflicting reports about what happened in the compound."

"absence" implies that the footage doesn't exist...

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 05-04-2011 05:27 PM

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The OP (onwebcam) tosses out anti-Obama conspiracy red herrings without regard for facts.

For example, in another thread he touts an article claiming that Bin Laden was dead years ago, yet in this one he cites an article that states Bin Laden's daughter witnessed her father being killed.

Unless Osama Bin Laden possessed super powers, and was killed twice, you can't have it both ways...

ADG

Grapesoda 05-04-2011 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-null (Post 18109305)
this lack of credibility and honesty is really unsettling, makes one question so much more of what is presented to us :Oh crap

not really... you have to be a complete moron to even wonder of they ever tell the truth about anything in the first place... focus in on making money and let the 'bros and shit' waste their time on crap like this :2 cents:

IllTestYourGirls 05-04-2011 05:31 PM

Hey doc does that water you're carrying for Obama ever get heavy?

theking 05-04-2011 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 18109444)
"The absence of footage of the raid has led to conflicting reports about what happened in the compound."

"absence" implies that the footage doesn't exist...

I do not know what footage may or may not exist...even if the Satellite feed to the CONUS went down during real time...the SEALS may or may not have video of their own. They just returned to the CONUS today and are currently undergoing debriefing...thus there may or may not be additional information released...based upon the decision of the President.

BTW...it is possible that after the debriefing of the SEALS if additional information is released it could conflict with information that has been released.

When you have multiple people releasing information and then the media taking things out of context/placing their spin on it...conflicting information is not unusual.

The buck stops with the President so his words are the only words of real import.

onwebcam 05-04-2011 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 18109448)

The OP (onwebcam) tosses out anti-Obama conspiracy red herrings without regard for facts.

For example, in another thread he touts an article claiming that Bin Laden was dead years ago, yet in this one he cites an article that states Bin Laden's daughter witnessed her father being killed.

Unless Osama Bin Laden possessed super powers, and was killed twice, you can't have it both ways...

ADG

Let's see if this can be explained on your level..

I cited this

"Blackout during raid on bin Laden compound

The head of the CIA admitted yesterday that there was no live video footage of the raid on Osama bin Laden's compound as further doubts emerged about the US version of events."


And posted a picture of what was originally claimed to be them watching it all unfold..

Which would be conflicting info...

I did not cite the entire article.. Obviously if a reporter is a part of the MSM he has to be on the side that Osama is dead and his daughter witnessed it since that is what the official story is or he/she wouldn't be employed very long...

I on the other hand believe it's all a lie..

Get it?

TheDoc 05-04-2011 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 18109418)
yea, it seems unusual to me that video feed of all 6 soldiers involved malfunctioned during critical part of the mission, forever destroying proof of what really happened...

Aren't their video feeds designed exactly for missions like that? Or perhaps they just wear them for shits and giggles, so they can upload funny videos to youtube?

I wouldn't think all 6 did... I would assume it uses area wifi, to the helicopter which then shot the signal up to space. I can think of many reasons why a system like that would fail in my backyard, let alone during a combat mission.

It appears so, but I have no idea how often they use it or how good it is. But I do know if the military has it, it breaks.

DangerX !!! 05-04-2011 05:50 PM

US government ling? No way, lol, man! Welcome to the real world!
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TheDoc 05-04-2011 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 18109452)
Hey doc does that water you're carrying for Obama ever get heavy?

He looked thirsty... and how does providing facts on a topic show support? If I say the sky is blue, am I supporting the sky?

Dirty Dane 05-04-2011 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 18109448)
Unless Osama Bin Laden possessed super powers, and was killed twice, you can't have it both ways...

.. and some of his children must have been made and born after his death. Love conspiracy theories :1orglaugh

Minte 05-04-2011 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18109344)
What's the lie? The White House never said it was a live feed.

That's true..they are all in the situation room picture watching Hogans Heroes.


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