Top Bucks Lowered Payouts?
 

If so, I never saw an announcement.

http://topbucks.com/programs.php

$20 per sign-up for 0-9 sign-ups in a pay period
$25 per sign-up for 10-70 sign-ups in a pay period
$30 per sign-up for 71-149 sign-ups in a pay period
$35 per sign-up for 150-349 sign-ups in a pay period
$37 per sign-up for 350+ sign-ups in a pay period

This industry is going doooown.

Apparently there was no notification to affiliates on this. That is the important part. Pretty scumbaggy move if true.

Maybe check for Google caches or something on when that changed.

lowering payouts under the radar . . . sleezy

looks like pimproll has done the same.

wow $20 is terrible for a regular join. I guess there retention sucks.'





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i agree :disgust

Could it be a reflection of the state of things ?:2 cents:

How else could they afford all those Ipads they just gave away to staff?

Pimproll's $20 pps is on their $14.95 price point, they still have $30-35 if you do $1-5 trials.

oh no :1orglaugh

Surfers are not dumb anymore,if you pull a hidden crossale they will do full chargeback.

where is my ipad?

Pimproll's payouts look the same as always.

http://www.pimproll.com/programs.html

hahaha, on the other hand, has lowered payouts on all their programs.

Another reason I stopped promoting them.

I will explain ... let me do up the post.

they need more content..like mine ;)

Pimproll is the same I had a few sales the last few days there and everything is normal. Where did you see a change, like posted about that lower amount is only on the new $10 a month membership.

Okay we use to pay $30-35 PPS based on the volume of sales, hell we even paid up to $42 per sale for those who could send over 250 sales per period. We did this for years. Well, webmaster sales began to slip naturally as did most programs and affiliates. So now, we are paying $42 per signup on those accounts and they would be sending 1/3 of the sales.

So we did a huge DB cleanup and we re-structured the program for NEW webmasters who signup. We honored all existing payouts and some are still at $42 per signup.

Now, anyone who knows how this industry works, send more sales, get more money. So at any time if you feel $20 per signup is too low, hit us up. But for those WMs who send a join here or there, they are happy with the PPS or they do revshare.

We don't do shady xsales, we removed exits completely, we try to give the surfer a great experience, we really don't want to be douchey to our members or webmasters.

Hit myself, Sly or Nadya up to discuss an increase in payout.

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As for all the iPad comments, the lowed payout happened well before our mobile began to rock. We were in the same decline as everyone else. We just happen to get onto mobile faster than most and are now rebounding, increasing in sales and revenue.

that's not true. you used to be 30-35 pps for regular sites and 15 for mobile.

i sent you hundreds of sales last year. don't lie.

Right and we restructured it for new affiliates. Mobile has always been $15 PPS, that never changed.

If you send hundreds of joins last year, hit us up. However, hundreds of joins, let's say 500 - that's one sale per day. Am I complaining? No, but not everyone can expect to be paid the same as a guy who sends 25 sales per day.

However, most that complain either aren't active or send a join here or there and it's hard to justify an increase in payout on those accounts.

asshole move on their part

:2 cents:

PimpRoll has not changed payouts. We may be raising them on the discount option soon ;)

To clarify: This change is for new affiliates only? I've had an account with Top Bucks for years now so my payouts are still the same?

I just checked, and they're unchanged for me ($30), and I would have to admit I'm not sending them a whole lot by any stretch of the imagination.

Cool, thanks. They really could have done a better job communicating this change.

Like I said, it happened well over a year ago and I do believe we did communicate it to our webmasters, and we made it clear on the site and in the TOS for new web masters.

Everyone is lowering their PPS

We are doomed!

industry is sinking on some areas, i dont know where will this all finish

This is why I stick with revshare. Less initial, more in the long run if the site doesn't blow. Win/win.

I would way rather a PPS program did the math and adjusted as needed in the recession than that they go out of business or shave.

Right .. Until the site goes out of the business or the fucking processor goes tits up.

I've gambled on Revshare twice and been fucked over on rebills big time by major processors disappearing. When I factor in the loss of rebills, revshare actually pays me less than PPS and over time too! I'm still converting large fairly saturated PPS sponsors at 1:400 or better and there's no way I can make $35 on 400 uniques to most revshare programs these days, even if they do manage to stay in business.

Most of the major lessons about life are introducted to us as children. Surely you've heard that a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush?

So only new webmaster accounts are affected by your new payout structure? Existing webmasters still get $30 - $35 PPS? Is that right?

This is right.

Nothing has changed for anyone - if at the time of your account signup we were offering $30-$35 PPS payout, then it stayed the same for you.

The same can be said about PPS companies. SOBV is a grand example.

Revshare billers may go tits up, and PPS companies may run with the money or just stop paying.

It's all a risk. :2 cents:

Any of these companies, regardless of pay structure, can be here and solid today, and gone tomorrow.

Yep. Diversification is the key to long term survival. I try to keep my income coming from at least 3 main sources and 4 is ideal. I think of it as a car that gets a flat tire from time to time. If I can't get that tire fixed quickly it may be a 3 wheeler or a motorcycle for a brief period, but as soon as I get back in a car I feel safer.

Yes which is why most program's cannot afford to pay $50 pps, however speaking only for myself each member is worth over $30 to us so we can still continue to pay $30pps and make a profit.

You do a $1 trial that rebills at $40, with upgrades - you best make more than $30 average doing that. TB's trials rebill at $30, that gap in costs is the payment difference gap.

Besides that, volume is the difference. CB's happen no mater what, and at TB's size they don't play the 1% ratio game, they play the $$$ CB volume game with ratios added in. So it's just logical, drop the prices and stop having to worry with the limits near as much, if any.... while you guarantee yourself and your aff's a safe future.