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elitegirls 09-06-2006 07:25 PM

5 years 9/11 - what most likely happend!
 
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...04938803031452

aztecvision 09-06-2006 07:45 PM

Only a hand full of people will ever know the truth, those are the people responsible. All we can do is look at the evidence that has not or cannot be suppressed and draw our own conclusions.

bogo 09-06-2006 07:53 PM

i just watched 20 sec of the video to realize this guy is an idiot.If they captur a video of a plane going into the tower,what makes you think that the first impact was a bomb?

Dirty F 09-06-2006 07:57 PM

Here we go again,.....

Dirty F 09-06-2006 07:58 PM

How the fuck is that "clear signs"...what a fucking moron. Somebody kick his ass.

tungsten 09-06-2006 07:59 PM

that shit will never be figured out

PMdave 09-06-2006 09:06 PM

His bodylagnuage isn't that of a man convinced that he is telling the one and only truth.

MaddCaz 09-06-2006 09:11 PM

conspiracy theories gettin old

GrouchyAdmin 09-06-2006 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aztecvision
Only a hand full of people will ever know the truth, those are the people responsible. All we can do is look at the evidence that has not or cannot be suppressed and draw our own conclusions.

HEY SOMEONE'S STATING SOMETHING BOTH PLAUSABLE AND INCITEFUL! LET'S GET HIM!!

baycouples 09-06-2006 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bogo
i just watched 20 sec of the video to realize this guy is an idiot.

Right, after 20 seconds you are able to determine that a scientist is an idiot, yet you're posting on a message board at this time of day.

Dirty F 09-06-2006 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by baycouples
yet you're posting on a message board at this time of day.

Just like you?

Matt 26z 09-06-2006 10:16 PM

The melting point of steel is 2,700 degrees.

The steel used in the WTC had a UL certification of 2,000 degrees for 6 hours before failure.

Jet fuel burns at a maximum of 1,800 degrees, and burns out very rapidly.

There are photos of people standing in the hole just minutes after impact.


Someone, please, explain this.

martinsc 09-06-2006 10:18 PM

here we go again.......

Dragar 09-06-2006 10:18 PM

that man there is almost as boring a George Bush himself
couldn't even get threw the first 5 second till I closed the site :disgust

Splum 09-06-2006 10:18 PM

The steel didnt MELT you idiots it bent, which is exactly what most of you kooks can go and do, get fucking bent.

GrouchyAdmin 09-06-2006 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z
...

Someone, please, explain this.

Even assuming these numbers are correct: Yeah, nothing burns but jet fuel and metal. Offices full of plastic, flammable chairs, paper, and other glorious chemicals can not be ignighted. Impossible.

Dirty F 09-06-2006 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z
The melting point of steel is 2,700 degrees.

The steel used in the WTC had a UL certification of 2,000 degrees for 6 hours before failure.

Jet fuel burns at a maximum of 1,800 degrees, and burns out very rapidly.

There are photos of people standing in the hole just minutes after impact.


Someone, please, explain this.

Maybe, just maybe a huge fucking plane flying into a building damages it a *bit*?? Wild guess though.

And MAYBE just maybe the jet fuel set the building on fire on the inside. Also a wild guess and maybe crazy i came up with that but who knows.

Dirty F 09-06-2006 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by toonpornblog
Even assuming these numbers are correct: Yeah, nothing burns but jet fuel and metal. Offices full of plastic, flammable chairs, paper, and other glorious chemicals can not be ignighted. Impossible.


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO you think so? You mean it could be possible that the plane crash actually made other stuff burn than just the fuel? Thats insane!!!

DBS.US 09-06-2006 10:21 PM

Someone, Please explain Building #7

Dirty F 09-06-2006 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splum
The steel didnt MELT you idiots it bent, which is exactly what most of you kooks can go and do, get fucking bent.


No no, a building can only collaps if all the steel completely melts. Bending, plane crashes and weakening of the steel doesnt count. :1orglaugh

Dirty F 09-06-2006 10:41 PM

And quiet it is.

Matt 26z 09-06-2006 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Franck
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO you think so? You mean it could be possible that the plane crash actually made other stuff burn than just the fuel? Thats insane!!!

For the steel to fail it would need to be under intense heat for a sustained period of time. Flammable objects in the building wouldn't burn at the necessary temperature, but we'll assume for the sake of your argument that they did.

If the temperature on those floors was hot enough for steel to fail, then how were people observed minutes after the crash?

You could make the argument that they came from higher areas of the building, but they still have to pass through areas that are hot enough to cause steel failure.

Turn your oven on as high as it goes. Now imagine walking through that heat.

MetaMan 09-06-2006 10:44 PM

a plane did it you fucking idiots, do you know how big a cover up like that would have to be? it would have to take hundreds of people.

anyone who thinks otherwise is a complete idiot.

Matt 26z 09-06-2006 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
No no, a building can only collaps if all the steel completely melts. Bending, plane crashes and weakening of the steel doesnt count. :1orglaugh

Nobody ever said it melted. The argument is that steel isn't going to take on enough heat to cause failure in the very brief period that the jet fuel burned. As for the secondary fire, see my post above.

GrouchyAdmin 09-06-2006 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z
You could make the argument that they came from higher areas of the building, but they still have to pass through areas that are hot enough to cause steel failure.

Turn your oven on as high as it goes. Now imagine walking through that heat.

Now you're inferring that they're in there of their own free will? Are you fucking insane, or actually this thick?

Next time you find yourself stuck in an impromptu oven, see if you don't try to figure your way out, and maybe, just maybe, you'd be a bit panicy.

Dirty F 09-06-2006 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z
For the steel to fail it would need to be under intense heat for a sustained period of time. Flammable objects in the building wouldn't burn at the necessary temperature, but we'll assume for the sake of your argument that they did.

If the temperature on those floors was hot enough for steel to fail, then how were people observed minutes after the crash?

You could make the argument that they came from higher areas of the building, but they still have to pass through areas that are hot enough to cause steel failure.

Turn your oven on as high as it goes. Now imagine walking through that heat.

A FUCKING PLANE FLEW IN THE FUCKING BUILDING!!

What the fuck??? What you think that does to a building? People just keep ignoring that. Cant you imagine that huge fucking plane does huge fucking damage? How hard is that to understand?

Matt 26z 09-06-2006 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan
a plane did it you fucking idiots, do you know how big a cover up like that would have to be? it would have to take hundreds of people.

Then that says a lot about al-qaeda, who managed to pull it off with only a small handful.

BBWTori 09-06-2006 10:51 PM

I still wanna know where the plane that supposedly went into the pentagon went....

GrouchyAdmin 09-06-2006 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z
Then that says a lot about al-qaeda, who managed to pull it off with only a small handful.

Yeah. Dumb country like the US that'd just fucking let anyone in with a minimal amount of credibility and checking. Incredibly spiteful, trusting, lazy people.

Why not come out now and say it's not so much a conspiracy as you felt they got what they deserved because they weren't whelped in Essex.

It makes as much sense as anything else you've posted.

MetaMan 09-06-2006 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z
Then that says a lot about al-qaeda, who managed to pull it off with only a small handful.


no they did not, those networks are huge, full of thousands of people, these attacked and executed with planning and direction from many many people.

if you think 10 people pulled it off you are a tool.

Dirty F 09-06-2006 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BBWTori
I still wanna know where the plane that supposedly went into the pentagon went....


It dissapeared and all the people on board are part of the conspiracy as well...as well as their families.

GrouchyAdmin 09-06-2006 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
It dissapeared and all the people on board are part of the conspiracy as well...as well as their families.

You've said too much.





http://www.imagepup.com/up/CIWA_1157...neuralyzer.jpg

Matt 26z 09-06-2006 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toonpornblog
Now you're inferring that they're in there of their own free will? Are you fucking insane, or actually this thick?

Next time you find yourself stuck in an impromptu oven, see if you don't try to figure your way out, and maybe, just maybe, you'd be a bit panicy.

What I'm saying is that due to the human body's intolerance of heat, you won't be able to walk into an area that is so hot that it's causing steel to fail.

GrouchyAdmin 09-06-2006 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z
What I'm saying is that due to the human body's intolerance of heat, you won't be able to walk into an area that is so hot that it's causing steel to fail.

You've seen how meat cooks, right? It takes time, even at 400+ degrees. Note that I am using this as an example, because, unless someone flies a plane into it, your local stove/grill is not going to get much hotter.

As everything is destroyed, your evidence that they walked 'out to' there is as good as my 'it's a fucking cube, there are people lining the outside as much as the inside.'

Even if you think it's faked - listen to the phone calls. There was one lady who was on one of the higher floors - like 10 stories or so, and she was crying about the heat. It's not that anyone had the choice of being there or not. Unless, of course, you think all of that shit was staged, too.. I mean, hell, any country willing to sacrifice a few thousand of their own to breed more terror and contempt obviously had reasons, right. Ok, fine. Name them.. killing others is not good enough. As Americans, we can fucking do that any goddamned time we please, first strike.

Dirty F 09-06-2006 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toonpornblog

:1orglaugh

shynfine 09-06-2006 11:08 PM

they got us good but we will not forget

Matt 26z 09-07-2006 12:27 AM

Reasons for a conspracy... That's a tough question right now. Ask it again in ten years. Such an act would have been to get the American people behind something. I know we wouldn't have gone into Iraq without 9-11, but Iraq wasn't exactly a pressing issue. Let's see what happens with Iran next. Let's see if WW3 breaks out. It's way too early to find a motive.


I've said this a number of times, and it does go with a 9-11 conspiracy....

The US can't remain the number one country without WW3. It was WW2 that allowed us to take on the world's industrial demand since European industry was bombed out. Prior to that the US was *not* the number one country.

At this rate most of us will live to see that day that another country is regarded as being above us. Probably China. The only way to prevent that is to bomb them back to 1980 in WW3, but Americans would have to support WW3. 9/11 made that easier just like Pearl Harbor was the breaking point for Americans to finally support entering WW2.

Now after everything is said and done and Chinese industry is in turmoil, the world looks at American industry again. The only problem is that for various reasons we may not have the man power anymore to run factories at the same level we did 20 years ago.

That is where "undocumented workers" come into play. I believe this is why our government drags their feet on Mexican boarder issues. They know the potential exists that we will have a pressing need for that labor. We simply can't revive American industry without it.

GrouchyAdmin 09-07-2006 12:34 AM

Ok. So, we killed our own so in the future we can kill others who have nothing that we want, but oil.. then, when shit hits the fan because we outsourced and no longer produce, we'll bring in the mexicans to fellate us after we bomb the shit out of others because they're ahead of us.

I think you're about 30 years behind. Way too much 'Pi.'

We haven't made a fucking thing in the last 30 years. Our imports outweigh our exports exponentially, and quite frankly, we've fucked ourselves into a corner that we can't bomb our way out of. Hurting others still doesn't make us self-sufficent.

Maybe the government did it so people could invent blogs and expose their insanity, so they might be round up and given a lethal dose of paranoia. That seems more likely and not quite as macabre.

Webby 09-07-2006 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z
The melting point of steel is 2,700 degrees.

The steel used in the WTC had a UL certification of 2,000 degrees for 6 hours before failure.

Jet fuel burns at a maximum of 1,800 degrees, and burns out very rapidly.

There are photos of people standing in the hole just minutes after impact.


Someone, please, explain this.


Mmmmmm... Need to things to explain that Matt:-

(a) a defective calculator try to get it come up with a result to fit the facts.

(b) a group of scientists who will certify all known scientific fact is fraud - including the laws of gravity.


Seriously agree - it's total crap and impossible for even an aircraft fully loaded with fuel could bring down a steel structure. Nowhere on this planet has such a structure fallen to the ground, - even in serious earthquake conditions which are many times more than the impact of one aircraft.

There are too many other factors - one being the tendencies of Trade Center employees to keep explosives in the drawers of their desks. This was obviously the reason for several multiple explosions at regular points on lower floors :pimp BTW.. Saw a pig fly today.

DeadFidel 09-07-2006 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toonpornblog
Ok. So, we killed our own so in the future we can kill others who have nothing that we want, but oil.. then, when shit hits the fan because we outsourced and no longer produce, we'll bring in the mexicans to fellate us after we bomb the shit out of others because they're ahead of us.

I think you're about 30 years behind. Way too much 'Pi.'

We haven't made a fucking thing in the last 30 years. Our imports outweigh our exports exponentially, and quite frankly, we've fucked ourselves into a corner that we can't bomb our way out of. Hurting others still doesn't make us self-sufficent.

Maybe the government did it so people could invent blogs and expose their insanity, so they might be round up and given a lethal dose of paranoia. That seems more likely and not quite as macabre.

Why does this make sence?:warning


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