How to boost sales to your affiliate program overnight.. #1
 

OK... Here is a free example of how you can boost the sales to your program overnight.

In this issue we will address newsgroups...

You ALL pretty much ban the use of newsgroups as advertising. It seems as though each new program just basically copies the TOS of an older program and calls it macaroni...

Why this is a STUPID idea for you...

I did some testing and here is what happens when you post to newsgroups:

2750 uniques - 23 signups - $805 - 1:120 ratio @ $35 per sale w/ .29 per unique.
1500 uniques - 33 signups - $614.02 - 1:45 ratio @ $18.61 per sale w/ .41 per unqiue.

That is with a total of 20 galleries posted over a 7 day period.

Next month with ZERO new posts...

1318 - 19 - $665 - 1:69 @ $35 w/ .50
671 - 6 - $269 - 1:112 @ $44.92 w/ .40

The second sponsor was revshare...

Month later.. 2 months AFTER posting...

182 - 3 - $105
237 - 1 - $167 (again revshares... so 9 rebills)

3 Months AFTER posting...

90 - 1 - $35
202 - (6 rebills) - $84

Test #2

8627 - 30 - $1050
3127 - 12 - $199.74

Month after:

6958 - 23 - $805
30039 - 122/8(rebills) - $1774

No more posting, 2nd month

3453 - 6 - $210
10678 - 12/16 - $441

And 3rd month...

1411 - 4 - $155
5021 - 4/12 - $234

What does all of this mean? It meens that if you are a sponsor and don't post your own sets to newsgroups you are a moron! You are already posting these FHG sets through your affiliates in TGP's and other "accepted" methods of advertisement. By disregarding newsgroups as a source of income you are missing out BIGTIME on an untapped revenue stream.

Some would say it is "spamming" the newsgroup... Fuck them! They are purposefully downloading your entire members area and cropping the photos to remove the watermarks with batch programs. It is about fucking time you DID THIS to start MAKING MONEY off of a medium that is NOT going away.

You WILL buy P2P advetising on Limewire and other networks but you won't do it in newsgroups? Why? It is beyond me! It is content you already are releasing to affiliates. Start using it to promote your programs in newsgroups instead of allowing them to ruin your bottom line!

Now you are going to say, "Who gived a flying fuck about $1000 a month!" My response is to remind you that in the above tests I got paid a "percentage" of the total revenue only and I only posted a small amount of posts. Had I posted 10 sets a day for 30 days straight (or all year long) per site, per program the amount I would make would be to enormous to pass up.

So why did I stop? Both affiliate programs I had a prior relationship with and they asked me not to promote them in this way. When I explained it was a test and that it shows you can make a large sum of money by posting your own pictures in newsgroups they just simply couldn't get their heads out of their butts...

If you have a program you need to be promoting it YOURSELF in newsgroups and thank me at the next show...

Have a nice day...

I can't wait for the replies flaming me... Just keep in mind the loudest replies will be those people who are already doing this as an affiliate and would rather I didn't make this post.

i used to do newsgroups a long time ago , but my isp didn't like that :) it was fairly easy cash..

Is their a good program that will allow you to submit to several groups at once?

lots of them

i can code one.. have coded newsgroup bots before. see sig.

Please contact me tomorrow V
ICQ: 312744199
[email protected]

Or drop your details here

Yes... Powerpost2000 is by far the easiest, but AtomicPost and NewsRocket have the most features, including embedding a link back to your site into the post (which is only viewable in certain readers)...

You should post around 9:45PM EST so that your posts will be shown "the next day" at 12AM starting with the East coast. Remember it takes hours to propegate through the servers... You are basically trying to get into the first posts for the day, before the copywrite infringers do.

You have my ICQ... We talk about once a month for something or other...

you can buy traffic and bust the sales :)

Yes, but my list is so unorganized (Trillian) that it's impossible to find most people, and some are listed by ICQ number. :)

Unfortunatly the regular ICQ client doesn't work for me.

BTW... the reason I am posting this is not to get people to break your terms of service, which actually... hehe... helps you by targeting an untouched revenue stream, I am doing this so that the industry can make money in situations where it is losing money.

ie, turn a shitty, fucked up, low-down dirty situation into a cash cow for YOU (the sponsors).

Everyone complains that newsgroups are:

Fucking their branding by removing the watermarks...
Posting for public viewing copywritten content that hasn't been released for public viewing...

Remember, the only thing you SHOULD be posting in this manner is limited sets... When I posted, I posted sets that were even more limited than the FHG's the programs were offering... So only 5 to 6 pics per set. Space them out. Don't post 5 sets of one site into the same newsgroup since you will now be giving away enough they might not come looking for more. Post 2 sets maximum so they will have to come looking for more.

If you are an affiliate, you WILL have your account terminated and all money forfitted...

You might be able to get around this by buying your own content as an affiliate and talking to the program in question about possibly watermarking the content YOU bought and have 2257 data for with your own domain (which would forward them to the affiliate link)... But you definately SHOULD talk to the affiliate before doing this or you can and sometimes will be sued and/or charged criminally.

The only entity that may do this legally is the sponsors themselves or an affiliate with expressed written permission to do so by the sponsor.

Interesting company in that sig of yours... Going to have to check it out!

and how do you compile the list?

I run my own news servers with about 10-20 peers each. I also run a very large propagation server. If some people on Usenet knew who I really was... well, they wouldn't be happy :1orglaugh


Run your own sites. Run a tight ship. Post responsibly, and you won't have any problems.

One more thing... You should post into the groups that are in your contents niche... So when the admins of the newsgroups (moderators) bitch at you for "spamming" them, you can send them back an email stated that you are posting the content in the LEGAL fashion and they THEY are breaking the law by removing the watermarks... You can also remind them that YOU are the ONLY legal posters of the content in question in the first place!

Also do not cross post heavely... Maybe 2 or 3 newsgroups per set... Basically stay inside their terms of service the same way you wish they would have done for you before they removed your watermarks and posted content that is not for public viewing.

The list?

Sweet! Nice chunk of change, but I am sure you make a nice ROI!

of places to post. I'm a newsgroup newb. Honestly I have no idea even what a new group is :Oh crap

I have custom scripts, and if you set up correctly your messages get propagated within minutes :)

V, it seems you know what you are talking about with newsgroups but then again... Most newsgroups are not moderated at all, in fact very few are. The thing to watch out for are the erlan starrs (Newgroup Nazis) Even if you post responsibly, you can fall victim to these jerkoffs. Own your servers.

how can i submit to newsgroups and which program let me do that?

How to find newsgroups... Signup for a newsgroups posting/reading service like www.giganews.com . Or a service that the sponsors currently hate like www.pictureview.com ...

The nice thing about a service like Picture View is that it contains lists of the top viewed and posted to newsgroups... This allows you to target newsgroups with traffic and sales so you don't waste your time.

A primer on newsgroups for the newbs:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsgroup

interesting...might give it a go

thx!

i'll check that out

i hit newsgroups from time to time (with my own content, going to my own sites) and get decent results almost every time.

Thanks for reminding me... I have spoken to a lot of you at internext and a good deal of you are either running your own sites and are not getting the traffic you dreamed of or are thinking about opening small paysites to test your traffic. Well, you can use the stats I posted above to test your paysite first. ie, a control set to base your conclusions on...

The first line is a group of hardcore sites. Think cumshots and milf... The second line is a solo model site. Just so ya know what you are comparing.

Hi V Rocks.

Newsgroups sounds like a great idea. Check out my new website www.justfilthy.com . I am buying some of the content for this site. Would newsgroups work for justfilthy? Any advice or assistance appreciated. I am also interested in a coded custom script. I can be contacted on [email protected] .

Lyn from Oz

we're cool with newsgroup postings, its not the same as email spam imho

Talk about a blast from the past. Good stuff, though. Just do it low key and focus on enhanced content value and it should be okay. THere's tons of other more n00b surfer friendly platforms on the Net now but usenet is still good--if used properly Im sure.

yo V_rocks any chance you can contact me on icq? 338847113
Thanks !

Man I wanna try this because I am pretty familiar with the newsgroups but I don't want to spend a lot of money on programs I need to run. If I can do this for under $20 a month I would promote affiliate that will convert plus I can post the link to my site and maybe get some cam sales.

V - You must be the first gfy-member to mention spam and not getting flamed! Great work!! :thumbsup

Hey V Rocks
hit me up buddy :)

My Icq : 134901041

I never understood why people post threads like this. Keep it under the hat.

"Hey folks, I'm making SHITLOADS of sales with this and this! Come do it too!"

*sinking ship noise*

I am one of the biggest supporters of newsgroup based promotion, but I can say with great certainty you guys that don't know what you are doing are setting yourself up for big problems. Newsgroup nazis will at the very least get hosting shut off, if enough info is available they can get your connection killed, or worse. They won't take kindly to a bunch of spammers killing the groups

While newsgroup spamming is no where near as bad as email spam, most ISP's, and hosting companies fail to differentiate between the two, and will shut you off without warning.

You could risk getting into trouble legally as well.

I have been doing news promotion since 98, I've spent thousands on custom scripting to avoid the most obvious pitfalls, and the not so obvious ones. I know newsgroups backwards, and forwards.

A word to the wise... be careful. Take it from someone who knows.

Consider this a useful post from a goofy pirate minus the trip pictures.

Hardly. People that don't know what they are doing are gone quicker than you can say control message :winkwink:

true true....that's why you shouldn't explain to them to be carefull :winkwink:

What all these newbies dont know is the reason people dont spam newsgroups is because usenet is the home of the most hardcore "anti's" on the net. For you super newbies, "Anti's" are spam cops and people who go the extra mile to report spam. Not only will your sponsor accounts get terminated, they will also make sure your ISP kills your account as well.