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  • EroticySteve
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    • Mar 2005
    • 4365
    #1

    Native Americans

    You have to feel bad for all of the Native Americans who had no control over their land and lost nearly all claims to the land that they inhabited for tens of thousands of years.

    I was thinking about it the other day when I was at the Seminole Casino.

    Kind of sad that they lost nearly everything they had.
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    • galleryseek
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      • Mar 2002
      • 8234
      #2
      yep. horrible.

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        • After Shock Media
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          It could of been worse.

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            • spideriux
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              • Feb 2005
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              #4
              yeah galleryseek
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                • Maxy
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                  • Nov 2005
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                  #5
                  True. But is the tens of thousand of years thing true?
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                    • EroticySteve
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                      • Mar 2005
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                      #6
                      They got Munsoned. You know when you have the world in the palm of your hands and you let it just slip away.
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                        • WebairGerard
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                          • Sep 2005
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                          #7
                          they were totally screwed

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                            • EroticySteve
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                              • Mar 2005
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                              #8
                              Originally posted by Maxy
                              True. But is the tens of thousand of years thing true?
                              There is evidence that white man first landed here 17,000 years ago following a land bridge from Europe.

                              The native Americans were already settled in many areas by that time.
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                                • BoyAlley
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                                  • Nov 2004
                                  • 19714
                                  #9
                                  Ok, so for tens of thousands of years the best they could do is come up with little shacks made out of buffalo ass to live in.

                                  We take their shit, true, but in just a few hundred years, they're now running casinos and all of that.

                                  Sure, many of them still live in little shit shacks, but that's because they try to run their own governments, and apparently haven't evolved socially much since they days they lived in buffalo ass housing.

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                                    • pornguy
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                                      • Mar 2003
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                                      #10
                                      Let me tell you. Most of the tribes are now making upfor that with cash. If they have a casino, the money that it makes has to be devided between tribe members.

                                      A friend just got her papers from her tribe along with her first monthly check. It was 18k.

                                      they said that the money goes up and down, depending on the income, but it is usually pretty high.
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                                        • Sosa
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                                          • Oct 2002
                                          • 40149
                                          #11
                                          Ok, I live close to a reservation one of the poorest in the country by the way. My opinions of them are different then most people because most people have not seen how these Native Americans go about their lives. Sure they got land took away from them etc, but all they do NOW is sit at home, drink and do drugs. 90% of them are that way on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation in South Dakota. Now the other 10% are awesome and actually work and raise there family with morals. The others have has many kids as they can because then they get a bigger check from the government every fucking month...

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                                            • Citizen Cain
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                                              • Sep 2002
                                              • 426
                                              #12
                                              well, they own YOU if you gamble at their casinos.

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                                                • J-$
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                                                  • Mar 2005
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                                                  #13
                                                  same shit here in Canada... though they're good to have on your side, these guys are the worst wife beaters, alcoholics, junkies and all that shit. thats what happens when you get raised already knowing you dont need to work in order to live comfortably. these guys got some kick ass weed though, and they sell guns too

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                                                    • seeric
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                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                      • 41917
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by EroticySteve
                                                      You have to feel bad for all of the Native Americans who had no control over their land and lost nearly all claims to the land that they inhabited for tens of thousands of years.

                                                      I was thinking about it the other day when I was at the Seminole Casino.

                                                      Kind of sad that they lost nearly everything they had.

                                                      thank you.

                                                      it's amazing what is taught in our schools to the kids growing up. as a native american i don't even want to get started really with anyone on this subject, but i can tell you that the history of this country is nothing close to what people are brainwashed to believe.

                                                      when i see you next i'll have to tell you some of the stories and facts that i have learned investigating my heritage and history.

                                                      brutally amazing and disgusting how it all went down.

                                                      sad.

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                                                        • seeric
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                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                          • 41917
                                                          #15
                                                          i don't defend how the current tribes act. i know how they act, i've been to some of the reservations, and i don't blame them for not giving a fuck. reparations keep them in their little corner where they belong. they have the minimum to get by in most resos i have been to. if the government gave you check each week and you didn't have to work at all, half of you on this board would be drunk all the time too if you saw where they have to live. its not as sugar coated as it all looks.

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                                                            • EroticySteve
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                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by A1R3K
                                                              i don't defend how the current tribes act. i know how they act, i've been to some of the reservations, and i don't blame them for not giving a fuck. reparations keep them in their little corner where they belong. they have the minimum to get by in most resos i have been to. if the government gave you check each week and you didn't have to work at all, half of you on this board would be drunk all the time too if you saw where they have to live. its not as sugar coated as it all looks.
                                                              Airek I didn't know that you had native blood in you. Do you have enough to get help from ther government?

                                                              It is sad that a nation of people lost everything because they didn't have the means or the understanding to defend themselves and their land.
                                                              It's easy to blame them for their own losses now, it's not right to, but it's easy.

                                                              However, command and conquer is an age old strategy for cultural advancement.

                                                              I'm surprised that Native Americans aren't more terriorial than they are. A lot of the land that many of us have homes on was probably owned or inhabited by Native Americans at one time or another.
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                                                                • Furious_Female
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                                                                  • Oct 2002
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                                                                  #17
                                                                  What our (Americans) ancestors did to Native Americans was disgraceful and wrong. This country was founded on lies, violence, and crime.
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                                                                    • Marcus Aurelius
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                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Furious_Female
                                                                      This country was founded on lies, violence, and crime.
                                                                      And it thrives on it to this day.

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                                                                        • seeric
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                                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                                          • 41917
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by EroticySteve
                                                                          Airek I didn't know that you had native blood in you. Do you have enough to get help from ther government?

                                                                          It is sad that a nation of people lost everything because they didn't have the means or the understanding to defend themselves and their land.
                                                                          It's easy to blame them for their own losses now, it's not right to, but it's easy.

                                                                          However, command and conquer is an age old strategy for cultural advancement.

                                                                          I'm surprised that Native Americans aren't more terriorial than they are. A lot of the land that many of us have homes on was probably owned or inhabited by Native Americans at one time or another.

                                                                          yes, and i also have enough of that blood to get assistance, but what for? i'd never want to live out there in the middle of south dakota. Brrrrrrrrrr. i also have enough of that blood in me to put a business on indian land. its not the easiest thing to do, but if i wanted, yes i technically could. i've consulted with legal people and a company that specializes in tracing ancestral roots. i should post pics of my great grandfather. knowing this fucking board and some of the dirtballs that fall in here, i'd find him photochopped in something gay, and that would not sit well with me.


                                                                          i've always said that if i ever failed at what i am doing in life i can always get away, get some money, and leave it all behind. can you imagine though?

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                                                                            • EroticySteve
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                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by Furious_Female
                                                                              What our (Americans) ancestors did to Native Americans was disgraceful and wrong. This country was founded on lies, violence, and crime.
                                                                              And Freedom of Religion.
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                                                                                • EroticySteve
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                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by A1R3K
                                                                                  yes, and i also have enough of that blood to get assistance, but what for? i'd never want to live out there in the middle of south dakota. Brrrrrrrrrr. i also have enough of that blood in me to put a business on indian land. its not the easiest thing to do, but if i wanted, yes i technically could. i've consulted with legal people and a company that specializes in tracing ancestral roots. i should post pics of my great grandfather. knowing this fucking board and some of the dirtballs that fall in here, i'd find him photochopped in something gay, and that would not sit well with me.


                                                                                  i've always said that if i ever failed at what i am doing in life i can always get away, get some money, and leave it all behind. can you imagine though?
                                                                                  Yeah it's probably a good idea to keep personal things personal.

                                                                                  However, perhaps you could have the only Native American Sponsor Program. Native American women as your main niche..... Hmmm, you've got to think that if they are already into Tobacco and Gambling this would be a great income too, afterall the other things are also forms of adult entertainment.
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                                                                                    • Phoenix
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                                                                                      • Nov 2002
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                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      when you see how much they are given here..they have every opportunity to rise to the top level...they just choose not to...i dont gie a flying fuck about them..and im from way up north...where it is mostly just indians
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                                                                                        • GlydeGirl
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Everybody is bitching about the Natives, but you know what? WHITE PEOPLE DID THIS TO THEM! In Canada, we rounded up all the Native kids, took them away from their families to be raised (by raised, I mean being beaten, demoralized, sexually assaulted, and abused in pretty much every conceivable way) by cranky Catholics at far away residential homes for a couple of generations. This action resulted in the Natives losing all sense of self, community, and purpose.

                                                                                          Sure, we eventually closed down the schools and put the Natives on reservations to rebuild their communities, but you know what? All that damage that the Catholic residences did is what NOW gets passed down from generation to generation. Our modern Natives don't have the connections to their heritage that bring them peace of mind and purpose anymore -- and WE DID THAT TO THEM.

                                                                                          I am very saddened by this, and while I acknowledge that it is the responsibility of each Native to find their own purpose in life and create their own successes (just like the rest of us), we certainly had a huge hand in handicapping them in the first place!

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                                                                                            • EroticySteve
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                                                                                              • Mar 2005
                                                                                              • 4365
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Phoenix
                                                                                              when you see how much they are given here..they have every opportunity to rise to the top level...they just choose not to...i dont gie a flying fuck about them..and im from way up north...where it is mostly just indians

                                                                                              I think that many people forget about the issue of culture. It's something that stays with us and it's also the reason for stereotypes and generational gapping.

                                                                                              It's sometimes not politically correct to touch on someone's heritage as perhaps the reason for certain actions but it's often one main reason in the truth and reality of the situation.

                                                                                              For example, if you are Russian or Scottish or German in Heritage, either first or second generation in America your propensity to beome a millionaire on little or no formal education is higher than other nationalities. That's of course a stereotype, but that's what happens when people with a common trait act a common way.

                                                                                              You did effectively stereotype many Native Americans, but you have to understand the situation through their paradigms if you want to truly understand that they choose not to succeed when given opportunities that many others do no have. Their culture is much older than the modern cultures that we're used to until white man came along they were happy in a much less civilized society and did just fine. They didn't deal with Eastern diseases and many of the societal issues that plagued Europe.

                                                                                              In fact, I'd venture to say that their standard of living while primitive was much higher than that of those who invaded them.
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                                                                                                • Phoenix
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                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by MaskTVMaura
                                                                                                  Everybody is bitching about the Natives, but you know what? WHITE PEOPLE DID THIS TO THEM! In Canada, we rounded up all the Native kids, took them away from their families to be raised (by raised, I mean being beaten, demoralized, sexually assaulted, and abused in pretty much every conceivable way) by cranky Catholics at far away residential homes for a couple of generations. This action resulted in the Natives losing all sense of self, community, and purpose.

                                                                                                  Sure, we eventually closed down the schools and put the Natives on reservations to rebuild their communities, but you know what? All that damage that the Catholic residences did is what NOW gets passed down from generation to generation. Our modern Natives don't have the connections to their heritage that bring them peace of mind and purpose anymore -- and WE DID THAT TO THEM.

                                                                                                  I am very saddened by this, and while I acknowledge that it is the responsibility of each Native to find their own purpose in life and create their own successes (just like the rest of us), we certainly had a huge hand in handicapping them in the first place!

                                                                                                  total crap...we didnt do shit...they choose not to participate with the rest of the world...and for the most part you dont hear them complaining
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                                                                                                    • EroticySteve
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                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by MaskTVMaura
                                                                                                      Everybody is bitching about the Natives, but you know what? WHITE PEOPLE DID THIS TO THEM! In Canada, we rounded up all the Native kids, took them away from their families to be raised (by raised, I mean being beaten, demoralized, sexually assaulted, and abused in pretty much every conceivable way) by cranky Catholics at far away residential homes for a couple of generations. This action resulted in the Natives losing all sense of self, community, and purpose.

                                                                                                      Sure, we eventually closed down the schools and put the Natives on reservations to rebuild their communities, but you know what? All that damage that the Catholic residences did is what NOW gets passed down from generation to generation. Our modern Natives don't have the connections to their heritage that bring them peace of mind and purpose anymore -- and WE DID THAT TO THEM.

                                                                                                      I am very saddened by this, and while I acknowledge that it is the responsibility of each Native to find their own purpose in life and create their own successes (just like the rest of us), we certainly had a huge hand in handicapping them in the first place!

                                                                                                      Amen, they didn't ask for us to be here. They graciously accepted us into their culture. We mesmerized them with our technology and advancement and took advantage of their kindness and lack of protection.
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                                                                                                        • Sin
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                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          I've got native blood in me as well, and have been taking the First Nations studies at Uni for 2 yrs now, along with my general history courses.

                                                                                                          Believe A1R3K when he says that the actual history is nothing like what they teach you in high school. Not even close. Not only that, but the whole situation is not even close to being as "historical" as we would like, & there's a lot of things still happening even today that many people are not aware of.
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                                                                                                            • seeric
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                                                                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                                                                              • 41917
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by EroticySteve
                                                                                                              Yeah it's probably a good idea to keep personal things personal.

                                                                                                              However, perhaps you could have the only Native American Sponsor Program. Native American women as your main niche..... Hmmm, you've got to think that if they are already into Tobacco and Gambling this would be a great income too, afterall the other things are also forms of adult entertainment.

                                                                                                              in some sick way i find this humorous.

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                                                                                                                • seeric
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                                                                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                  • 41917
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  i haven't even mentioned the corruption within tribes where the chief and tribal leaders all drive mercedes and the people live in poverty. this isn't happening in my particular tribe, but there are some tribes that are kept in poverty by their own people. in my eyes the original invaders and murderers are the ones responsible for this as well.

                                                                                                                  people who don't understand the history really shouldn't open cans that they can't close. the mess that is the current indian reservation system was created by and is the reponsibility of the american government and their forefathers.

                                                                                                                  anyone want to try to justify why the u.s. government pays out all that money every month to all these tribes? why do they do it?

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                                                                                                                    • After Shock Media
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                                                                                                                      • Mar 2001
                                                                                                                      • 35299
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Phoenix
                                                                                                                      total crap...we didnt do shit...they choose not to participate with the rest of the world...and for the most part you dont hear them complaining
                                                                                                                      Ok another Indian here (well sort of 25% Indian).

                                                                                                                      People did do shit. What we are talking about was mass genocide. Then ultimately conquering an entire race of people. Gathering them all up and placing them in ghetto's. Latter to discover those ghetto's were to good (they still had natural resources) and relocating many of them again to even worse ghetto's devoid of any real resources at all.
                                                                                                                      Also keep in mind not so long ago assorted indians said they were black instead of Indian so they would be treated with less racism and hatred (pre-1920's).
                                                                                                                      After they had been pushed down as far as any society can be. They were often stripped of their offspring who would be raised in assorted orphanages or schools. Their entire culture was stripped away and they were brought up to hate everything they were. People went as far as attempting to remove their heritage, their beliefs, and even their languages. Those adults who resisted or attempted to speak out were often labeled trouble makers and criminals, many of which where arrested by the federal government only to have their children also taken away. They have been conditioned to never complain, and history has shown that if they do they get punished even more.
                                                                                                                      Then having them rely and depend on government money to survive just furthered the conquered mentality and kept them in check. When someone else controls the purse strings you often just shut up and do what your told or taught to do.

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                                                                                                                        • EroticySteve
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                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Sin
                                                                                                                          I've got native blood in me as well, and have been taking the First Nations studies at Uni for 2 yrs now, along with my general history courses.

                                                                                                                          Believe A1R3K when he says that the actual history is nothing like what they teach you in high school. Not even close. Not only that, but the whole situation is not even close to being as "historical" as we would like, & there's a lot of things still happening even today that many people are not aware of.
                                                                                                                          That's true.

                                                                                                                          History books on the same topic will depend on the authors and paradigms under which they were written.

                                                                                                                          I'd like to read text books talking about WWII from a German perspective and compare and contrast the accounts of the same situations with American textbooks.

                                                                                                                          Depending on the paradigm, some things are sugar coated and other things are demonized. The only what to know what has happened in a situation is to have been there yourself.
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                                                                                                                            • Sosa
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                                                                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                              • 40149
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Wait till Russel Means or however you spell his name finds this thread!

                                                                                                                              A1R3K, you been to the Pine Ridge Reservation? Some crazy shit still going on up there. I'm about 30 minutes from hidding tribe land so I hear about it all the time.

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                                                                                                                                • EroticySteve
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                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2005
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  I'm glad that this is a positive thread. What actually brought this up was thinking about how my buddy's car got stolen the other day. Yes, totally unrelated but I thought man that must be an awful feeling to know someone else violated your trust and stole and destroyed your property. I'd be mighty pissed.

                                                                                                                                  Now think if someone came in, took your home, told you and your family how to live, where to live, destroyed your property and then tried to forget about it for a few hundred years only to come back and say sorry with some financial compensation.

                                                                                                                                  I guess it's unfair to really make that comparison because the world of today is much different than the world of even 100 years ago much less 300 years ago.
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                                                                                                                                    • seeric
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                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2004
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                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Sosa
                                                                                                                                      Wait till Russel Means or however you spell his name finds this thread!

                                                                                                                                      A1R3K, you been to the Pine Ridge Reservation? Some crazy shit still going on up there. I'm about 30 minutes from hidding tribe land so I hear about it all the time.

                                                                                                                                      no, i've mostly been to the ones in california. i hear that the further away from civilization you get, the more primative they are.

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                                                                                                                                      good thing we all don't live in china or this wouldn't even be available for people to see. now, of course we know everything we read on the internet is true, but 1.7 million results might hold some truth if you can dig through all the propaganda and hate in these little gems here.

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                                                                                                                                        • tranza
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                                                                                                                                          • Jun 2003
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          that was horrible
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                                                                                                                                            • abadfish
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                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Are they still forced to live on reservations? lol

                                                                                                                                              If they wanted they could take all of that casino money and buy hordes of property in the wilderness of the US and live like their ancestors. Why don't they do this? The white man may have fucked up a lot of their ancestors but their future is in their own hands.
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                                                                                                                                                • After Shock Media
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                                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2001
                                                                                                                                                  • 35299
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by abadfish
                                                                                                                                                  Are they still forced to live on reservations? lol

                                                                                                                                                  If they wanted they could take all of that casino money and buy hordes of property in the wilderness of the US and live like their ancestors. Why don't they do this? The white man may have fucked up a lot of their ancestors but their future is in their own hands.
                                                                                                                                                  Oh yeah thats right. They all get truck loads of casino cash.

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                                                                                                                                                    • pr0
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                                                                                                                                                      • May 2001
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                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by BoyAlley
                                                                                                                                                      Ok, so for tens of thousands of years the best they could do is come up with little shacks made out of buffalo ass to live in.

                                                                                                                                                      We take their shit, true, but in just a few hundred years, they're now running casinos and all of that.

                                                                                                                                                      Sure, many of them still live in little shit shacks, but that's because they try to run their own governments, and apparently haven't evolved socially much since they days they lived in buffalo ass housing.
                                                                                                                                                      you're a fucking idiot

                                                                                                                                                      you think roads & pollution and economic proggress is what everyone wants huh?
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                                                                                                                                                        • PixeLs
                                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2005
                                                                                                                                                          • 11922
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by EroticySteve
                                                                                                                                                          There is evidence that white man first landed here 17,000 years ago following a land bridge from Europe.

                                                                                                                                                          The native Americans were already settled in many areas by that time.
                                                                                                                                                          The ones who came here by that time (17,000 years ago) using that land bridge connecting Russia and North America could have been the ancestors of the native americans. White men just came here right after Amerigo Vespucci discovered the place on the 15th century.

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                                                                                                                                                            • amalekite
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                                                                                                                                                              • Sep 2005
                                                                                                                                                              • 162
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              My ancestors are Cherokee nation. We think this "poor indian" stuff is a bunch of crap. It's comical

                                                                                                                                                              My Cherokee ancestors were viscious warriors and very spiritual. They would NOT make peace and fought to the death.. But My Great Great Great Grandmother could see in the future (in dreams and visions) and predicted that our bloodline would mix with the whites and become one people. She said that in the future... her mixed grandchildren would know they were Cherokee because they would be able to see in the future too.

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                                                                                                                                                                • amalekite
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Sep 2005
                                                                                                                                                                  • 162
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by PixeLs
                                                                                                                                                                  The ones who came here by that time (17,000 years ago) using that land bridge connecting Russia and North America could have been the ancestors of the native americans. White men just came here right after Amerigo Vespucci discovered the place on the 15th century.
                                                                                                                                                                  not really sure... But the Cherokee have a story of "monsters with white eyes"

                                                                                                                                                                  Some people think that the Cherokee had encounted white people before.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • iwantchixx
                                                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                                      • 12860
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      bottom line, they can work for a better life. Do they chose to? NO. Sure the odd one does do it and gets off the reserve and has a nice life.. but they are shunned by their band and acused of selling out.

                                                                                                                                                                      Fuck them.

                                                                                                                                                                      Wanna work for a good life? Congrats
                                                                                                                                                                      Wanna sit on welfare drinking, fighting, fucking anything that moves, crying about what someone did to their great great grandparents 200 years ago? Go fuck yourself.

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                                                                                                                                                                        • Paul Waters
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Furious_Female
                                                                                                                                                                          What our (Americans) ancestors did to Native Americans was disgraceful and wrong. This country was founded on lies, violence, and crime.
                                                                                                                                                                          Your ancestors were terrorists.



                                                                                                                                                                          Paul

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                                                                                                                                                                            • nico-t
                                                                                                                                                                              emperor of my world
                                                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                                              • 29901
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by pornguy
                                                                                                                                                                              Let me tell you. Most of the tribes are now making upfor that with cash. If they have a casino, the money that it makes has to be devided between tribe members.

                                                                                                                                                                              A friend just got her papers from her tribe along with her first monthly check. It was 18k.

                                                                                                                                                                              they said that the money goes up and down, depending on the income, but it is usually pretty high.
                                                                                                                                                                              do these tribes adopt dutch white guys?

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                                                                                                                                                                                • pr0
                                                                                                                                                                                  rockin tha trailerpark
                                                                                                                                                                                  • May 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 23088
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by PixeLs
                                                                                                                                                                                  The ones who came here by that time (17,000 years ago) using that land bridge connecting Russia and North America could have been the ancestors of the native americans. White men just came here right after Amerigo Vespucci discovered the place on the 15th century.
                                                                                                                                                                                  DNA shows a tribe of white men from france crossed an ice age sea 10-17,000 years ago. Fishing along the way to sustain their existence, & stopping on icebergs during blizzards.

                                                                                                                                                                                  They've got the DNA of some northern indian tribes & also they have found arrow heads native to the french tribe.
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • amalekite
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Sep 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 162
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by pr0
                                                                                                                                                                                      DNA shows a tribe of white men from france crossed an ice age sea 10-17,000 years ago. Fishing along the way to sustain their existence, & stopping on icebergs during blizzards.

                                                                                                                                                                                      They've got the DNA of some northern indian tribes & also they have found arrow heads native to the french tribe.
                                                                                                                                                                                      interesting...

                                                                                                                                                                                      I read some of De Sotos journal online and he described tall light skinned people living among the native tribes in Florida

                                                                                                                                                                                      Tall whites have been found buried in present day China... that predate the Chinese

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • SongRider
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 651
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by BoyAlley
                                                                                                                                                                                          Ok, so for tens of thousands of years the best they could do is come up with little shacks made out of buffalo ass to live in.

                                                                                                                                                                                          We take their shit, true, but in just a few hundred years, they're now running casinos and all of that.

                                                                                                                                                                                          Sure, many of them still live in little shit shacks, but that's because they try to run their own governments, and apparently haven't evolved socially much since they days they lived in buffalo ass housing.

                                                                                                                                                                                          And this post here shows how stupid some people still are.

                                                                                                                                                                                          There is a beauty in living simple that most people just dont get..... Being connected with the earth and only taking what you need to live. Native Americans had the richest land on the earth for a long time and they took care of it and it took care of them.

                                                                                                                                                                                          And I bet they lived much fuller lives then most of us will. And they passed there love and lessons down for years upon years....

                                                                                                                                                                                          Unlike the white man they looked at the land as a place to live.... not gain power and profit from it.

                                                                                                                                                                                          Respect was earned, the amount of cash you held and toys you had didnt mean shit as compared to the man/woman you were.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • reed_4
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2005
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                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              they were really screwed.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • MetroPornTour
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 1043
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by J-$
                                                                                                                                                                                                  same shit here in Canada... though they're good to have on your side, these guys are the worst wife beaters, alcoholics, junkies and all that shit. thats what happens when you get raised already knowing you dont need to work in order to live comfortably. these guys got some kick ass weed though, and they sell guns too
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Considering I'm half Mi'gmaq...
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  But I really must say we natives owe all to you.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Matt 26z
                                                                                                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 18481
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Give me a break!

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Do you guys really believe they are in bad shape today because whites took their land hundreds of years ago? This has nothing to do with land. Most of the US isn't even developed yet. There are vast open spaces throughout the Midwest and northwestern states where Indians could be living their pre-white man lives.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      The real story here is that advanced humans navigated the Atlantic ocean and came upon people dancing around a fire to cure illness. This advanced culture was injected into their stoneage culture and shit hit the fan for them.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      If you guys really believe the native American way of life was good, then go build a shack in Montana and live off the land for the next decade.

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