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GTS Mark 09-26-2005 06:30 PM

How Much Do You Think YOUR Business Is Worth?
 
I was having a chat with a good buyer of mine today and he was considering selling his business and was curious what his might be worth. I speculated and said his business was probably worth 6-18 months worth of net revenue.

Just like all business owners they feel their businesses are worth a bit more than what the market thinks, but that is natural as it's their baby.

If a buyer was willing to give you 6-18 months worth of net revenue for your sites/business would you be willing to sell? Is there a magic number you have in your head that you will not sell for anything less? Also would you agree to a non-compete if the buyer met your price and had it in the contract?

Just an F.Y.I. my magic number is 1 billion dollars ;)

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DH

eroswebmaster 09-26-2005 06:31 PM

three fitty...you buying?

Ice 09-26-2005 06:31 PM

Not as much as yours fucker. Share the traffic man... LOL

LiveDose 09-26-2005 06:32 PM

I would personally never sell and sign a non-compete. But that's just me...

GTS Mark 09-26-2005 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iceicebaby
Not as much as yours fucker. Share the traffic man... LOL

Rene you know I'm a whore and don't share well LOL! :1orglaugh

DH

GTS Mark 09-26-2005 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveDose
I would personally never sell and sign a non-compete. But that's just me...

Even if the numbers were right?

DH

PureTotty 09-26-2005 06:35 PM

Hmmmm....
 
Considered selling myn, then I got rich !

gornyhuy 09-26-2005 06:35 PM

totally depends on the nature of the business.
Personal experience is that tech companies (i.e. companies that have a technology product, high profit margins, barriers to entry, and a sustainable business model) are going for 5-6x revenue.

I don't know how adult sites are priced at all, since I haven't sold mine.

RogerV 09-26-2005 06:36 PM

there is always a magic number. I do know what it will make for the next 5 years unless paycom and ccbill go under LOL

I'm in no hurry to sell.. love the biz and the people in it.

how much is enough money thats is the question

Ice 09-26-2005 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrinkingMODerately
Rene you know I'm a whore and don't share well LOL! :1orglaugh

DH

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GTS Mark 09-26-2005 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gornyhuy
totally depends on the nature of the business.
Personal experience is that tech companies (i.e. companies that have a technology product, high profit margins, barriers to entry, and a sustainable business model) are going for 5-6x revenue.

I don't know how adult sites are priced at all, since I haven't sold mine.

See the thing that drives me crazy is the fact that I could have purchased several businesses 2 years ago and they would have been well paid off by now. But at the time I thought this industry might not have the "legs" it has now... Well as they say hindsight is everything. :winkwink:

DH

$5 submissions 09-26-2005 06:40 PM

Goodwill + 6 month revenues + expansion potential %

Doctor Dre 09-26-2005 06:41 PM

Right now it wouldn't be possible to sell under the $ invested in it ... so wouldn't be a good move IMO . Not finished to develop ;)

WiredGuy 09-26-2005 06:42 PM

My business can maintain its size without me for a long time, mostly automated scripts and some minor reporting on a monthly basis. Because of that, I'd want at least 3 years worth of income.
WG

detoxed 09-26-2005 06:42 PM

$200,000 - $400,000 would be the minimum range and might require a job contract or consulting contract.

detoxed 09-26-2005 06:43 PM

DH maybe you want to buy a traffic generation business? :)

PlugRush Sascha 09-26-2005 06:45 PM

I personally wouldn't sell my sites. And they're what I view as 'my business'.

GTS Mark 09-26-2005 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy
My business can maintain its size without me for a long time, mostly automated scripts and some minor reporting on a monthly basis. Because of that, I'd want at least 3 years worth of income.
WG

I am going to send the paperwork over tomorrow, my offer will include free mojitos for life, free lapdances at the Doll House in Waterloo and an open tab at the Mongolian Grill by the university.

I expect your prompt response tomorrow morning...

Regards,
DH

GTS Mark 09-26-2005 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by detoxed
$200,000 - $400,000 would be the minimum range and might require a job contract or consulting contract.

How many months net revenue are we talking about here?

DH

GTS Mark 09-26-2005 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by detoxed
DH maybe you want to buy a traffic generation business? :)

I'm always in the market for more traffic, hit me up :)

DH

RogerV 09-26-2005 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrinkingMODerately
I am going to send the paperwork over tomorrow, my offer will include free mojitos for life, free lapdances at the Doll House in Waterloo and an open tab at the Mongolian Grill by the university.

I expect your prompt response tomorrow morning...

Regards,
DH


I'll do all that and throw in a few Blondes :winkwink:

detoxed 09-26-2005 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrinkingMODerately
How many months net revenue are we talking about here?

DH

Erh not in public but we can talk in email if you'd like [email protected]

slapass 09-26-2005 06:49 PM

I have bought websites for 3-6 months income but they have all been smaller deals. a few k. I am always amazed when a big TGP sells. They seem to do it quietly. Why would you ever sell something quietly?

GTS Mark 09-26-2005 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerV
I'll do all that and throw in a few Blondes :winkwink:

You can't suck cock like I can Roger LMAO!

DH

GTS Mark 09-26-2005 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapass
I have bought websites for 3-6 months income but they have all been smaller deals. a few k. I am always amazed when a big TGP sells. They seem to do it quietly. Why would you ever sell something quietly?

And you know what's funny is the fact that alot of these bigger sites go for ALOT less than you would imagine! Alot of these guys that have been in the biz from the beginning are just so burnt out of updating their sites they just finally say fuck it and sell it off for alot less than they could have got on the open market.

DH

Babagirls 09-26-2005 06:55 PM

$20 dollahs, paypal only.

slapass 09-26-2005 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrinkingMODerately
And you know what's funny is the fact that alot of these bigger sites go for ALOT less than you would imagine! Alot of these guys that have been in the biz from the beginning are just so burnt out of updating their sites they just finally say fuck it and sell it off for alot less than they could have got on the open market.

DH

That is what I have thought. It is crazy. Would you sell your car by telling 3 people and wait for the highest offer?

swami 09-26-2005 07:02 PM

I have about 50,000 unique visitors a day (all search engine traffic) and net over $50,000 mth.
My traffic has been constant for 2 years.
I'd sell for 12 months net revenue.

GTS Mark 09-26-2005 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swami
I have about 50,000 unique visitors a day (all search engine traffic) and net over $50,000 mth.
My traffic has been constant for 2 years.
I'd sell for 12 months net revenue.

See just from my limited amount of SE experience I would say your business is worth considerably less than that... The reason why I say this is because once google does a dance you have the chance of losing all that traffic and starting from scratch again. I'm sure you can update your sites when google does the dance and get back on top, but could I? The person that bought your business would have to be a serious SEO guru not a piker like me ;)

I don't mean to be a dick in the slightest but I am just pointing out crystal clear facts that would make it difficult for a person in my shoes to buy a business like yours.

DH

Peaches 09-26-2005 07:09 PM

$1.56 and my entire empire is yours. Cash only.

GTS Mark 09-26-2005 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peaches
$1.56 and my entire empire is yours. Cash only.

You're a hard negotiator, I like your style :thumbsup

DH

Sly 09-26-2005 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrinkingMODerately
See just from my limited amount of SE experience I would say your business is worth considerably less than that...

Ahem... ;-)

Search engine traffic is more stable than people give it credit. Especially for those who know what they're doing.

GTS Mark 09-26-2005 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly
Ahem... ;-)

Search engine traffic is more stable than people give it credit. Especially for those who know what they're doing.

I'm sure it is... Please don't take my comments as condescending in the slightest. I'm just looking from the outside in :)

DH

$5 submissions 09-26-2005 07:18 PM

Another alternative would be a leveraged buyout--pay the seller x months' proceeds from his business + upfront cash. However, its feasibility depends on whether the upside potential has been tapped out and the reasons behind the seller's intention to sell. This would make sense if he's moving from one market to another etc etc.

Number1Thumb 09-26-2005 07:21 PM

I got a nice little thing going that makes 4-6k a month plus future compounding rebills. Consistent for 8 months, every month. I work MAYBE 1 hour a day at best, for the last 7-8 months. Whats it worth? All revenue is from AFF.

WiredGuy 09-26-2005 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerV
I'll do all that and throw in a few Blondes :winkwink:

I'm leaning towards Roger's offer :)
WG

WiredGuy 09-26-2005 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swami
I have about 50,000 unique visitors a day (all search engine traffic) and net over $50,000 mth.
My traffic has been constant for 2 years.
I'd sell for 12 months net revenue.

Hmmm, I'd consider that offer. We talking entirely white hat operations and how many link trades do you have within your network. Hit me up on ICQ when you get a chance Alan.
WG

GTS Mark 09-26-2005 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy
Hmmm, I'd consider that offer. We talking entirely white hat operations and how many link trades do you have within your network. Hit me up on ICQ when you get a chance Alan.
WG

See aren't you glad I posted this thread now, I probably made you and Alan a bunch of money :thumbsup

DH

BlackCrayon 09-26-2005 07:45 PM

not near as much as it used to be :( this biz isn't near as profitable as it was 5 years ago.

WiredGuy 09-26-2005 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrinkingMODerately
See aren't you glad I posted this thread now, I probably made you and Alan a bunch of money :thumbsup

DH

Or you just made me spend a shit load of money, and to think I was gonna buy a house, lol.
WG


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