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simple simon 06-25-2005 09:23 PM

BangBrothers SEO results
 
So I set out 3 weeks ago to pick another sponsor for some engine traffic. I figured wtf, I give BB a shot. Well after placing 8th on google for a popular bangbros keyword (4,200,000) I am left with this fucking garbage. Hope they enjoyed the joins. Sorry I dont play TGP games and send 5k-10k. I send 500-1000 max from front page google placement, if it's shit I move on. I was hoping for a long term mutually beneficial result. :error

http://www.freephotopost.com/uploads/4338e1cfee.jpg

brand0n 06-25-2005 09:24 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/restria/cry.jpg

SomeCreep 06-25-2005 09:26 PM

How many hours of work did you invest into this project (building pages, swapping links, etc)?

bringer 06-25-2005 09:26 PM

526 hits in 9 days? no joins? omg!!!!!!!!!!!

simple simon 06-25-2005 09:28 PM

:1orglaugh I average 1:20-30 with ND and a few others from front page google placement. 1:500 and climbing aint gonna cut it. Time move forward, you fucks can keep sending that shithole click monkey tgp traffic and be happy with your 1:300+, not me.

dig420 06-25-2005 09:30 PM

that's not enough traffic for a legitimate test. Weak drama.

and if you're converting 1/20 with ND why would you EVER EVER EVER send one single hit anywhere else? Do you work for ND or something?

pocketkangaroo 06-25-2005 09:30 PM

Well if you are ranking for the BangBros term, why not just leave it up? The placement isn't costing you anything right now. Unless this is a general adult term that you could place a different sponsor in.

simple simon 06-25-2005 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420
that's not enough traffic for a legitimate test. Weak drama.

and if you're converting 1/20 with ND why would you EVER EVER EVER send one single hit anywhere else? Do you work for ND or something?

Like I said, I send nothing but quality traffic from page placements. Its plenty traffic to gauge were this is going.

http://www.awesomebackgrounds.com/te...-basket-01.JPG

Slick 06-25-2005 09:34 PM

I'm having a nice month with Bang Bros getting a 1:481 ratio (95 signups) from thumb tgp traffic :)

Hardlinks 06-25-2005 09:37 PM

8th spot is wayyyy less likely to convert then the top 2-3

500 hits isnt enough to see. Hell 1 sale puts you at 1/250 Which you wont do cause your 8th..heh

With what it took to whine here you could have spent some time increasing that rank to top 3, first two if you wanna make any money.

And it could be worse.

I have a tos.php with my ref code listed for a paysite search.(2nd result) :(

Try to convert that.

EDIT This impying it was for a bangbros site name search

chadglni 06-25-2005 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simple simon
:1orglaugh I average 1:20-30 with ND and a few others from front page google placement. 1:500 and climbing aint gonna cut it. Time move forward, you fucks can keep sending that shithole click monkey tgp traffic and be happy with your 1:300+, not me.

Haha I love this guy. click monkey tgp traffic :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I agree

HushMoney 06-25-2005 09:43 PM

from my other thread:

http://www.hodough.com/stat.jpg

give us a try :thumbsup

simple simon 06-25-2005 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadglni
Haha I love this guy. click monkey tgp traffic :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I agree

They have done nothing but train their traffic to click, click, click and it never ends. Find a way to make a ppc tgp model and they would be zillionaires. I been doing this shit for 4 years now and it amazes me that alot of guys need 800k uniques a day to make a buck. :1orglaugh

MrChips 06-25-2005 09:50 PM

Simple Simon

Dead right - that is more than enough traffic for a test.

Two issues -
1 if they shaved you
2 if they didnt shave and simply didnt convert

Either way - send the traffic elsewhere.

I only do SEO aswell - and I know thats exactly what I'd do - delete the shit affiliate program from your sites - no more questions - no ifs or buts - DELETE.

:)

**just incase** its shaving - then you know they aint getting f*** all from your work.

:thumbsup

Snake Doctor 06-25-2005 09:51 PM

A popular bangbros keyword?

What does that mean?

If you went and got a good ranking for say "milf lessons" or "bang bus" I don't think that's going to convert as well as a good listing for "big tits" or "mature sex".....simply because most of the people who search for a site name on google are looking for more galleries with content from that site.

:2 cents:

Theo 06-25-2005 09:51 PM

can we see the 1:20 stats from ND as well?

chadglni 06-25-2005 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simple simon
They have done nothing but train their traffic to click, click, click and it never ends. Find a way to make a ppc tgp model and they would be zillionaires. I been doing this shit for 4 years now and it amazes me that alot of guys need 800k uniques a day to make a buck. :1orglaugh

I paid $6000 for a TGP in 2001. After 1 month and 1 million gallery hits I shut it down and let the domain expire because I though conversions sucked. I was doing 1:200 or so. :1orglaugh

Hardlinks 06-25-2005 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simple simon
:1orglaugh I average 1:20-30 with ND and a few others from front page google placement.


1:20-30?

What for one day on the second friday of last month?

Please you want to criticize, post the ND stats where you convert 1-20-30 off of google front page clicks. I call bullshit. I know what front page clicks are worth from there and theres VERY few terms that will give you that. And i dont think its you that has them.

edgeprod 06-25-2005 09:55 PM

I sent a crapload of joins to them, according to Epoch, but "their" stats said like 1 trial or some bullshit. They're scammers, who cares? Send it somewhere else.

simple simon 06-25-2005 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel
can we see the 1:20 stats from ND as well?

No im not here to gloat or be flashy, just really unimpressed with the results. I do this testing with a few sponsors every few months and was kinda shocked with the outcome. It's unfortunate, but oh well

WiredGuy 06-25-2005 09:56 PM

if you are ranked 8th on the name of a bangbros site, like Bang Bus, you won't get many joins. Quite simply, the first 7 listings are probably all sending traffic to the same site and by the time you get any traffic to the 8th position, your chances of making a sale to the same site are really slim.

WG

simple simon 06-25-2005 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy
if you are ranked 8th on the name of a bangbros site, like Bang Bus, you won't get many joins. Quite simply, the first 7 listings are probably all sending traffic to the same site and by the time you get any traffic to the 8th position, your chances of making a sale to the same site are really slim.

WG

my experience with google in the last 4 years is an overwhelming majority of top listings are fucking spammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmy From what I believe, which others may disagree is that traffic will look were they are going before clicking. When you see a full page of fucked spam domains and run across a root, I feel they are more inclined to click. Everyone has their own theories, like I said, Oh well. Im off to bed, I think im going fishing in the morning to relax :)

WiredGuy 06-25-2005 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simple simon
my experience with google in the last 4 years is an overwhelming majority of top listings are fucking spammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmy From what I believe, which others may disagree is that traffic will look were they are going before clicking. When you see a full page of fucked spam domains and run across a root, I feel they are more inclined to click. Everyone has their own theories, like I said, Oh well. Im off to bed, I think im going fishing in the morning to relax :)

I tend to believe that's how a webmaster would look at results, not the typical surfer. A typical surfer sees their keywords they typed in the search results and clicks, even if its incoherent keyword stuffed listings. That's my opinion at least...

WG

SmokeyTheBear 06-25-2005 10:09 PM

se traffic is alot more finicky than some people think. The other 7 listings above you make ALOT of difference. If the 7 spots above you are gallery's or linklist's your chances are way better than if the actual bangbus site is listed above you.. If the actual site is listed above you then all your getting is surfers looking for more free content or free movies . Without actually seeing the listing its hard to say, but its not the worst i have ever seen.

SmokeyTheBear 06-25-2005 10:10 PM

btw if your keyword has to do with "bus" then you could try NASTYBUS from spacash..

WiredGuy 06-25-2005 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
btw if your keyword has to do with "bus" then you could try NASTYBUS from spacash..

Or Slutbus from Quickbuck. No point in promoting the same site the first 7 listings are pushing. Mix it up a little...

WG

bdld 06-25-2005 10:53 PM

my BBros SE traffic does only "OK", but theres so many surfers looking for their sites its hard to let them go.

beemk 06-26-2005 12:09 AM

3 weeks to get 500 hits?

twist 06-26-2005 12:24 AM

Bangbros does convert, don't blame them but instead look what you're doing wrong.

Fucksakes 06-26-2005 12:29 AM

my avg ratio with ND is 1:100 with galleries, have yet to find better

GoLiaT 06-26-2005 01:01 AM

i am at 1/200 on pure tgp traffic this month with bangbros
these guys rock

beemk 06-26-2005 01:25 AM

6/16/2005 to 6/30/2005 445 2 0 2 1 in 222 $85.00

hosted galleries

chadglni 06-26-2005 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beemk
6/16/2005 to 6/30/2005 445 2 0 2 1 in 222 $85.00

hosted galleries

How many hits to the gallery did it take to get 445 clicks? That is the point. One of my sites that was just put up does a whopping 2000 to 2500 page views per day (under 1k visitors) and 400 to 500 clicks to sponsor. Then it converts at around 1:150 raw.

VeriSexy 06-26-2005 02:08 AM

Man that sucks........ :(

Manowar 06-26-2005 02:24 AM

http://xs34.xs.to/pics/05256/bangbrosonline.JPG


BangBrosOnline are good for me

Trax 06-26-2005 02:51 AM

There is NO WAY you're converting 1/20 with ND, regardless what kind of SE traffic it is.
I send them a good chunk of targetted SE traffic and am NOWHERE near those conversions.
I smell bullshit

xxxjay 06-26-2005 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simple simon
So I set out 3 weeks ago to pick another sponsor for some engine traffic. I figured wtf, I give BB a shot. Well after placing 8th on google for a popular bangbros keyword (4,200,000) I am left with this fucking garbage. Hope they enjoyed the joins. Sorry I dont play TGP games and send 5k-10k. I send 500-1000 max from front page google placement, if it's shit I move on. I was hoping for a long term mutually beneficial result. :error

http://www.freephotopost.com/uploads/4338e1cfee.jpg

Dude, you should not post a thread like this without a bigger traffic sample. You need at least 10k of traffic to a sponsor to see a trend. 500 hits is very premature.

:2 cents:

xxxjay 06-26-2005 03:04 AM

Bangbros is a top notch program in my book.

Dax 06-26-2005 03:57 AM

I say you are full of shit!

BastarD 06-26-2005 04:09 AM

My SEO results with nastydollars are a lot better.

yes, first page clicks


http://qpack.net/pics/nastydollars.bmp


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