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bigdog 03-28-2005 03:16 PM

JasonandAlex move away from nats?
 
why did you guys move away from nats?

Jace 03-28-2005 03:19 PM

fucking-around-and-business-discussion/449372-jasonandalex-com-affiliates-please-read.html

like 10 posts down from yours

Smut 03-28-2005 03:29 PM

bumpity bump

Manowar 03-28-2005 03:32 PM

looks like they have moved to MPA2 or MPA3

Alex From San Diego 03-28-2005 03:35 PM

Please keep in mind, this is our personal experience and I'm NOT speaking for any other programs using NATS.

It came down to our overall comfort level for JasonandAlex as a company and our affiliates that we part ways with nats. Our issues we experienced were more related to tracking issues, password management issues and overall accuracy issues. To get into specifics on a board would be to much as well as time consuming. With that said, Chris(iBanker) or myself would be more than happy to field any phone calls.

This was not a fly by night decision on our part. We carefully thought it out and have taken the time to transition away over the last 3 weeks.

We feel we will have more flexibility with regards to various billers such as our own merchant account, 2000charge and GXB to name a few.

Our phone number here at the office is 858-587-9000 ext 102 for those of you who would like to know more.

shuki 03-28-2005 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Manowar
looks like they have moved to MPA2 or MPA3

interesting indeed

iBanker 03-28-2005 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by shuki
interesting indeed

Yes. MPA3.

iBanker 03-28-2005 04:18 PM

...and for those of you ICQing me, please understand that my ICQ is lit up like a Christmas Tree right now, I am not ignoring you, just trying to get back to all of you while talking on the phone....

Thanks for the understanding.

xxxjay 03-29-2005 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex From San Diego
Please keep in mind, this is our personal experience and I'm NOT speaking for any other programs using NATS.

It came down to our overall comfort level for JasonandAlex as a company and our affiliates that we part ways with nats. Our issues we experienced were more related to tracking issues, password management issues and overall accuracy issues. To get into specifics on a board would be to much as well as time consuming. With that said, Chris(iBanker) or myself would be more than happy to field any phone calls.

This was not a fly by night decision on our part. We carefully thought it out and have taken the time to transition away over the last 3 weeks.

We feel we will have more flexibility with regards to various billers such as our own merchant account, 2000charge and GXB to name a few.

Our phone number here at the office is 858-587-9000 ext 102 for those of you who would like to know more.

Expect a call tomorrow.

yellowmenace 03-29-2005 04:24 AM

very interesting.

Radiate 03-29-2005 04:45 AM

I'd like to hear more about these tracking and accuracy issues, I'm unable to call you, could you give me the gist of what you mean?

xclusive 03-29-2005 05:06 AM

I would like to hear more about it as well

Gottis 03-29-2005 06:31 AM

Where are the NATS guys at

Drake 03-29-2005 06:32 AM

It seems that both products offer a lot so it's not suprising that one may be more suitable for a sponsor.

MrVids 03-29-2005 08:07 AM

nats didn't have skimming and those fellas couldn't swim w/out it

Shaddam IV 03-29-2005 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MrVids
nats didn't have skimming and those fellas couldn't swim w/out it


hmm.. interesting

Alex From San Diego 03-29-2005 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MrVids
nats didn't have skimming and those fellas couldn't swim w/out it

Before you open your mouth and start with the allegations, you best have your ducks all in a row. I can assure you I do.

You might be travelling down a road that you don't want to go down on.

If you want to talk about skimming, we can discuss skimming.

All I can say is this since we have switched and please keep in mind the data is still early but hits are up and so are the joins

You don't have to have a shaving feature to shave. Sometimes incompetence works too.

If you would like to come to our office, you can log right in to our program with full admin rights and do all the searching you want.

We have nothing to hide. Never have and never will.

TMM_John 03-29-2005 08:39 AM

We will not be commenting in these threads. If anyone wants to speak with us regarding it they can reach us via phone or icq. Jason and Alex were asked to move away from NATS several times over the past 2 months. We thank them for finally doing so and we wish them luck.

Basic_man 03-29-2005 08:43 AM

They want to turn on the shave function !

Steve 03-29-2005 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by MrVids
nats didn't have skimming and those fellas couldn't swim w/out it

There is no way they'd do that. Jason and Alex are dipshit newbies. If they wanted to be shavers, they could have easily slapped together your typical bullshit PPS program, burned thru some merchant accounts and done "free" trials, cross sells, upsells, e-mail boxes on tours, and whored out the members e-mail lists.

Instead, they take the time and effort to come up with strong paysites loaded with exclusive content in a partnership program.

If you're going to slam someone, dont hide behind an alias. Show who you are.

Steve 03-29-2005 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Basic_man
They want to turn on the shave function !

yet another genius

undermyspell 03-29-2005 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve
There is no way they'd do that. Jason and Alex are dipshit newbies.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

either that's one hell of a typo or there's something about my bosses I don't know...

domo 03-29-2005 08:49 AM

you should really not put up your ICQ as a contact if your not going to reply on it. i added 2 icqs from your support page last thursday and i am not even given the courtesy of a reply.

Steve 03-29-2005 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by undermyspell
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

either that's one hell of a typo or there's something about my bosses I don't know...


LMAO
I blame that one on only one cup of coffee

it should say "are NOT"

Tipsy 03-29-2005 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve
There is no way they'd do that. Jason and Alex are dipshit newbies.

Don't you mean AREN'T? :winkwink:


Damn - beaten to it! :)

TMM_John 03-29-2005 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by domo
you should really not put up your ICQ as a contact if your not going to reply on it. i added 2 icqs from your support page last thursday and i am not even given the courtesy of a reply.

Is this regarding JSA or Too Much Media?

Thanks

domo 03-29-2005 08:52 AM

yes. its pointed towards Jason and alex. sorry for not being articulate.

undermyspell 03-29-2005 08:55 AM

sorry if you have not received a reply domo..

if you want to contact me at 236437815 I am online now and can answer any questions you might have...

undermyspell 03-29-2005 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve
LMAO
I blame that one on only one cup of coffee

it should say "are NOT"

I know I just had to give you grief... it totally cracked me up and I needed a good laugh to start my day... :winkwink:

Steve 03-29-2005 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tipsy
Don't you mean AREN'T? :winkwink:


Damn - beaten to it! :)

That guy's comment set me off like a hyperactive crack head with tourette's.
I left out complete words, much less letters. These guys are straight shooters. I know this is GFY and anon's can take digs at anyone without having one shred of proof to back it up, but that doesn't mean we have to sit there and read their bullshit without calling them on it.

Tipsy 03-29-2005 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve
That guy's comment set me off like a hyperactive crack head with tourette's.
I left out complete words, much less letters. These guys are straight shooters. I know this is GFY and anon's can take digs at anyone without having one shred of proof to back it up, but that doesn't mean we have to sit there and read their bullshit without calling them on it.

Agree absolutely. As I mentioned in the other thread it's all about bottom line and smart money would say nobody would be daft enough to screw up that hugely again by re-introducing a shave feature after the last time. So I trust MPA3 as much as I trust anything these days and more so than some as I genuinely make more sales/get more clicks with programs using MPA3. Could just be me though I suppose... :)

Alex From San Diego 03-29-2005 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by domo
you should really not put up your ICQ as a contact if your not going to reply on it. i added 2 icqs from your support page last thursday and i am not even given the courtesy of a reply.


Interesting...what 2 icq's? there is 5 icq's to get a hold of anyone of us as well as phone numbers with each of our extensions. To get a hold of us is pretty easy. Sorry you weren't able to but if you still want to, here is my icq

74296267

My phone: 858-587-9000 ext 104

Email: alex At JasonandAlex.com

Look forward to speaking with you : )

TurboAngel 03-29-2005 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn
We will not be commenting in these threads. If anyone wants to speak with us regarding it they can reach us via phone or icq. Jason and Alex were asked to move away from NATS several times over the past 2 months. We thank them for finally doing so and we wish them luck.


:eek7 :eek7

justsexxx 03-29-2005 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn
We will not be commenting in these threads. If anyone wants to speak with us regarding it they can reach us via phone or icq. Jason and Alex were asked to move away from NATS several times over the past 2 months. We thank them for finally doing so and we wish them luck.

:disgust ???

MrVids 03-29-2005 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve
There is no way they'd do that. Jason and Alex are dipshit newbies. If they wanted to be shavers, they could have easily slapped together your typical bullshit PPS program, burned thru some merchant accounts and done "free" trials, cross sells, upsells, e-mail boxes on tours, and whored out the members e-mail lists.

Instead, they take the time and effort to come up with strong paysites loaded with exclusive content in a partnership program.

If you're going to slam someone, dont hide behind an alias. Show who you are.

I'm not hiding behind an alias, my other account got blacklisted for posting some of my honest opinions about a couple admins on this board. Course, i was drunk and knew better, but sometimes those beer goggles can affect your judgement.

As for the shaving, you had to know someone was going to say it. Everyone knows the history of MPA, and personally I don't push any sites using their program just because of that tarnished reputation.

Note that I am not speaking from personal experience. A good friend of mine, who i trust, told me about it and the fact that option is so easily available, reduced my faith in the program.

Of course, anyone can figure out how to shave, i'm not saying it doesn't happen. I'm just saying that I'm not going to buy a Pinto just because I know there is the possibility of it getting rear ended and blowing up easier than any other car ;).

Basic_man 03-29-2005 09:18 AM

Wow, I have my pop-corn ready watching this thread going nuts ! :D

SomeCreep 03-29-2005 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn
We will not be commenting in these threads. Jason and Alex were asked to move away from NATS several times over the past 2 months. We thank them for finally doing so and we wish them luck.

:eek7

Well that sounds bizarre. Someone needs to spill the beans.

Triple 6 03-29-2005 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn
We will not be commenting in these threads. If anyone wants to speak with us regarding it they can reach us via phone or icq. Jason and Alex were asked to move away from NATS several times over the past 2 months. We thank them for finally doing so and we wish them luck.

Looks like your already did. And you are saying you asked J&A to get off Nats several times over the past 2 months, but they say the moved away cuz of stats issues. Why would they have to be asked several times to stop using something they are having issues with? So now I wonder if they brought some type of problem up and you guys asked them to get off your system instead of trying to correct it.

onlymovies 03-29-2005 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tipsy
So I trust MPA3 as much as I trust anything these days and more so than some as I genuinely make more sales/get more clicks with programs using MPA3. Could just be me though I suppose... :)


No, it's not just you.
It's the the question that's gone unanswered that nobody seems to know the answer to.

Why is it that when a program changes to NATS, sales have gone down? For me at least. Never understood it. Will the acception of a few, i've dropped programs using NAT's because of this.

Radiate 03-29-2005 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn
Jason and Alex were asked to move away from NATS several times over the past 2 months.

Think an explanation is needed on this pls

:helpme


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