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  • Vendot
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    • May 2002
    • 3376
    #1

    Bush Win Doesnt Add Up

    Sorry guys, I cant let this one go. I dont believe that Bush won it on moral issues alone - how can someone vote for Bush on the basis of moral issues. Its absurd by definition. Has there been some cheating going on?

    Ive just read the thread about the extra Bush votes in Ohio but apparently there are rumours that Bush scored more highly in all states that used electronic voting machines. Is there any truth to this or is it just conspiracy crap:

    http://blog.fuckedcountry.com/storie.../11/04/8607264

    Im definitely not one for the whole conspiracy shit but this one isnt going to go away while we figure out what the fuck went wrong.
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    • kaliboy2g
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      • Jun 2004
      • 10963
      #2
      You honestly thought Kerry would win?


      Apart from the two coasts, everyone in between mostly worries about family ethics/morals.

      And Bush being conservitive he is, pleased them and won their vote.
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        • Dynamix
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          • Jan 2004
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          #3
          Democrats didn't have a strong enough campaign

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            • Dynamix
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              • Jan 2004
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              #4
              Originally posted by kaliboy2g
              You honestly thought Kerry would win?


              Apart from the two coasts, everyone in between mostly worries about family ethics/morals.

              And Bush being conservitive he is, pleased them and won their vote.
              Exactly. Look at the vote map, red all over except the coasts being blue.

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                    • xclusive
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                      #6
                      it doesn't add up i say audit the election and get to the bottom of it either way...

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                        • baddog
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                          • Apr 2001
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                          #7
                          We Democrats have no one to blame but ourselves, and until we realize it, there are going to be Republicans in the White House.

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                            • sperbonzo
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                              • May 2003
                              • 9750
                              #8
                              The fact that the media refuses to acknowledge is that the US is NOT that liberal. People in the US, the majority of them are:

                              Self-sufficient, and DON't think that the goverment, (i.e. everyone else), OWES them everything, and doesn't want the goverment interfering in the running of their businesses.

                              Patriotic, and think that serving in the military is an honorable thing to do.

                              Religious, and go to some kind of worship once a week, and think that some things are right, and some things are wrong.

                              Law-abiding, and believe in a strong police and jail system.

                              Believe in the right to bear arms, (note that 37 out of 50 states are right-to-carry states, and more coming on all the time)

                              etc, etc, etc....


                              These REALLY are the people that make up the majority of the US...it is simply distorted by both the media, and the fact that most foreign vistors go to the liberal coastal cities.

                              I'm not saying that liberals don't have some of those same ideals, but they tend to be MUCH more diuted on the left than the majority of the US actually feels.

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                                • xenigo
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                                  • Jan 2001
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                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Dynamix
                                  Democrats didn't have a strong enough campaign
                                  Democrats had a DAMN strong campaign, my friend. We were out there in full force, knocking on people's doors to deliver the message of Democracy. We were driving them to the vote in masses. We had over 1000 people in both Reno and Vegas every weekend for the past several months, and talked to 40,000 people each time.

                                  Don't tell me the Democrats didn't have a strong enough campaign when you know nothing about what we were doing. Just for the record, we didn't come across a single Rebublican during our canvassing, and I personally saw ONE Rebublican voter guide lying on the ground the entire time I was in Nevada.

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                                    • Identified
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                                      • Sep 2004
                                      • 299
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by vendot
                                      Sorry guys, I cant let this one go. I dont believe that Bush won it on moral issues alone - how can someone vote for Bush on the basis of moral issues. Its absurd by definition. Has there been some cheating going on?

                                      Ive just read the thread about the extra Bush votes in Ohio but apparently there are rumours that Bush scored more highly in all states that used electronic voting machines. Is there any truth to this or is it just conspiracy crap:

                                      http://blog.fuckedcountry.com/storie.../11/04/8607264

                                      Im definitely not one for the whole conspiracy shit but this one isnt going to go away while we figure out what the fuck went wrong.
                                      You live in the UK who gives a fuck what you think! It's done and over with get over it.

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                                        • WarChild
                                          Let slip the dogs of war.
                                          • Jan 2003
                                          • 17263
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by baddog
                                          We Democrats have no one to blame but ourselves, and until we realize it, there are going to be Republicans in the White House.
                                          No way man .. Hillary Clinton in '08
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                                            • warlock5
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                                              • Jan 2004
                                              • 2808
                                              #12
                                              There was a strong campaign, but it was the weak candidate that did it. Everyone was too focused on why Bush was bad. Kerry just had too much political baggage in my opinion. Heres the guy who voted to cut military spending all through the cold war saying now we needed to increase intelligence spending. Its not that either view was right or wrong but rather the lack of consistancy that was the problem.

                                              Or maybe more Americans could relate to Bush. Who knows, I didn't vote for him.

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                                                • trouserrat
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                                                  #13
                                                  Thread 2,359,678 explianing hoiw Bush actually lost the election and Kerry won.

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                                                    • WarChild
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                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                      • 17263
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by xenigo
                                                      Don't tell me the Democrats didn't have a strong enough campaign when you know nothing about what we were doing.
                                                      Yeah you sure had a strong campaign .. Strong enough to bring more Bush voters out than ever before. Real strength man, real strength.
                                                      .

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                                                        • kaliboy2g
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                                                          • Jun 2004
                                                          • 10963
                                                          #15
                                                          LOL.

                                                          I just noticed his location.

                                                          Dumbass.

                                                          Majority of America is Conservitve.

                                                          New York and California are horrible representations of the US.
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                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by xclusive
                                                              it doesn't add up i say audit the election and get to the bottom of it either way...

                                                              They couldnt even if they wanted to!
                                                              Hows that for fail safe

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                                                                • TheJimmy
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                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by baddog
                                                                  We Democrats have no one to blame but ourselves, and until we realize it, there are going to be Republicans in the White House.

                                                                  agreed...


                                                                  ...coming from a R who voted D this time


                                                                  seriously, putting a liberal from the NE on the ticket and expecting to get votes from the south or middle of the country was a bit naive :/
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                                                                    • sperbonzo
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                                                                      • 9750
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by sperbonzo
                                                                      The fact that the media refuses to acknowledge is that the US is NOT that liberal. People in the US, the majority of them are:

                                                                      Self-sufficient, and DON't think that the goverment, (i.e. everyone else), OWES them everything, and doesn't want the goverment interfering in the running of their businesses.

                                                                      Patriotic, and think that serving in the military is an honorable thing to do.

                                                                      Religious, and go to some kind of worship once a week, and think that some things are right, and some things are wrong.

                                                                      Law-abiding, and believe in a strong police and jail system.

                                                                      Believe in the right to bear arms, (note that 37 out of 50 states are right-to-carry states, and more coming on all the time)

                                                                      etc, etc, etc....


                                                                      These REALLY are the people that make up the majority of the US...it is simply distorted by both the media, and the fact that most foreign vistors go to the liberal coastal cities.

                                                                      I'm not saying that liberals don't have some of those same ideals, but they tend to be MUCH more diuted on the left than the majority of the US actually feels.
                                                                      I'm gonna say it again. I've lived all over the US NY, FL, CA, AZ OK, IA, (and about 7 other countries but who cares). The thing is .....well, like I said above.
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                                                                        • Veterans Day
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                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by TheJimmy
                                                                          agreed...


                                                                          ...coming from a R who voted D this time


                                                                          seriously, putting a liberal from the NE on the ticket and expecting to get votes from the south or middle of the country was a bit naive :/
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                                                                            • devilspost
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                                                                                • PornGeneral
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                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                  We Democrats have no one to blame but ourselves, and until we realize it, there are going to be Republicans in the White House.
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                                                                                    • SuckOnThis
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                                                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                                                      • 6844
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      The movement for a recount is getting stronger, Nader is trying to get it started with a recount in NH.

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                                                                                        • Peacemaker
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by SuckOnThis
                                                                                          The movement for a recount is getting stronger, Nader is trying to get it started with a recount in NH.
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                                                                                            • SuckOnThis
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                                                                                              • Oct 2003
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                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Peacemaker
                                                                                              source?
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                                                                                                • Peacemaker
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                                                                                                    • Rollin Studios
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                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Dynamix
                                                                                                      Democrats didn't have a strong enough campaign
                                                                                                      It's a sad day when a candidates campaign wins or loses the election for them. If you ask me Bush looked like a retard during his whole campaign.

                                                                                                      I vote towards policies and ideas.

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                                                                                                        • jukeboxfrank
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                                                                                                          • Apr 2004
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                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Thank god the Dems never learn !!!If you like California, then you would love the whole USA to be just like them. California is a prime example of what they would do to us if they could.


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                                                                                                            • AdultNex
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                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Of course Bush didn't want based on moral issues alone, but I'm guessing that the majority of voters based their vote on morals.

                                                                                                              Almost all of the pro-Bush people I spoke to voiced their candidate selection because of Kerry's moral standards. Most likely, the churches had a crucial decision in this election, as many Christians are generally a tight-knit group who follow like sheep.

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                                                                                                                • kane
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                                                                                                                  • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                  • 20684
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  I have two theroies about why kerry lost. Well, actually three but one would make you get out your tinfoil hats

                                                                                                                  1. Kerry tried to pull a clinton and went hard after the young voters 18-24. for most of them this would be thier first election. This is the same demographic that put clinton in the first time. He went after them, got many of them to register. MTV and many big celebs joined him ( Bruce, Pdiddy, Drew Barrymore etc ) and they expected a big turnout and this to carry him into the white house. And on election day the 18-24 year olds stayed home. only 1 in 18 people in that age group voted in this election. And that killed kerry.

                                                                                                                  2. the Osama tape. When osama showed up again only a few days before the election it quickly reminded us that he is still out there and terrorism is still a very real threat. I think there were a lot of undecided that at the last minute thought of that and voted for bush. I, for the life of me, can't figure out why people think he has/will done/do a good job protecting us and fighting terroism, but they do.

                                                                                                                  So I think those 2 things really did Kerry in.

                                                                                                                  the 3rd one involves the voting machines in florida and things like that which may seem far fetched but might have a ring of truth.

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                                                                                                                    • sperbonzo
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                                                                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                                                                      • 9750
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Last time I'm going to try to get this through to you coastal/foreign types.....then I'm logging and getting a drink.

                                                                                                                      Originally posted by sperbonzo
                                                                                                                      The fact that the media refuses to acknowledge is that the US is NOT that liberal. People in the US, the majority of them are:

                                                                                                                      Self-sufficient, and DON't think that the goverment, (i.e. everyone else), OWES them everything, and doesn't want the goverment interfering in the running of their businesses.

                                                                                                                      Patriotic, and think that serving in the military is an honorable thing to do.

                                                                                                                      Religious, and go to some kind of worship once a week, and think that some things are right, and some things are wrong.

                                                                                                                      Law-abiding, and believe in a strong police and jail system.

                                                                                                                      Believe in the right to bear arms, (note that 37 out of 50 states are right-to-carry states, and more coming on all the time)

                                                                                                                      etc, etc, etc....


                                                                                                                      These REALLY are the people that make up the majority of the US...it is simply distorted by both the media, and the fact that most foreign vistors go to the liberal coastal cities.

                                                                                                                      I'm not saying that liberals don't have some of those same ideals, but they tend to be MUCH more diuted on the left than the majority of the US actually feels.
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                                                                                                                        • KRL
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                                                                                                                          • Oct 2002
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                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          What I heard was Karl Rove designed a marketing plan to secure 4 million voters using the "if you don't vote for bush, gay marriage will become legal" pitch. They supposedly blasted this message throughout the conservative pockets of the nation and through massive church newsletter blitzes.

                                                                                                                          Bush won by this margin of votes.

                                                                                                                          Coincidence? I doubt it.

                                                                                                                          I think this clever plan worked exactly as planned.
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                                                                                                                            • Hey You . . . I Know You!
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                                                                                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                              • 1908
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by KRL
                                                                                                                              What I heard was Karl Rove designed a marketing plan to secure 4 million voters using the "if you don't vote for bush, gay marriage will become legal" pitch. They supposedly blasted this message throughout the conservative pockets of the nation and through massive church newsletter blitzes.

                                                                                                                              Bush won by this margin of votes.

                                                                                                                              Coincidence? I doubt it.

                                                                                                                              I think this clever plan worked exactly as planned.


                                                                                                                              Smart fucking Republicans.

                                                                                                                              The Republicans coupled this ?general threat? of Kerry in the Whitehouse with an actual proposal to ban gay marriage (in Oregon, Arkansas, Georgia, Kentucky, Michigan, Mississippi, Montana, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Ohio and Utah).

                                                                                                                              This proposal was the Christian?s chance to help stomp out (what Jesus would call) ?the FAGS.?

                                                                                                                              It became every Christian?s responsibility to GO VOTE against the FAGS (and while you are there . . . also support Bush.)


                                                                                                                              Odd, that Gov. Bob Taft (a radical republican) said he will vote "no" on election day (on issue 1).

                                                                                                                              Furthermore, Ohio Governor (may I remind you, a fucking radical republican) says . . .
                                                                                                                              "First, Issue 1 is unnecessary," he said. "I signed House Bill 272, Ohio's Defense of Marriage Act into law last February. That act was narrowly drafted and reaffirms what I strongly believe and will always defend, that marriage is the union of one man and one woman."
                                                                                                                              Taft said the second sentence (of the proposed amendment) is an ambiguous invitation to litigation that will result in unintended consequences for senior citizens and for any two persons who share living accommodations. He said Issue 1 would make it more difficult to retain and attract young, talented knowledge workers to advance Ohio's prosperity in the 21st century.
                                                                                                                              "There will be as many interpretations of the words, 'intends to approximate the design, qualities, significance or effect of marriage' as there are judges in the state of Ohio."



                                                                                                                              Everyone in Ohio was against Issue 1 EXCEPT for the inbred Ohio Jesus freaks who just want to destroy the fags - as god so desires (even though god evidently created them thar fags).


                                                                                                                              Dragging these Jesus freaks to the voting booth is exactly what Rove wanted (especially in Ohio).

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                                                                                                                                • Fletch XXX
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by KRL
                                                                                                                                  What I heard was Karl Rove designed a marketing plan to secure 4 million voters using the "if you don't vote for bush, gay marriage will become legal" pitch. They supposedly blasted this message throughout the conservative pockets of the nation and through massive church newsletter blitzes.

                                                                                                                                  Bush won by this margin of votes.

                                                                                                                                  Coincidence? I doubt it.

                                                                                                                                  I think this clever plan worked exactly as planned.
                                                                                                                                  KRl i was posting about this a year before this campaign.

                                                                                                                                  To understand President Bush?s recent visit to the Vatican, you have to go back to the moment when George Bush and Karl Rove came to Jesus. Not in a religious, born-again sense. That happened to Bush shortly after his 40th birthday, when he and his Midland oil-field buddy Donnie Evans joined a men?s Bible-study group. Bush and his lifetime political adviser Rove found the political Jesus eight years later in Fort Worth. Until that moment, Rove was a secular, social Christian, openly contemptuous of the right-wing evangelical fanatics taking over the Republican Party. At the 1994 Republican State Convention in Fort Worth, Rove began to understand how useful the Christians could be. He was transformed into a secular, social Christian, quietly contemptuous of the right-wing evangelical fanatics taking over the Republican Party. He had no choice. As he was launching Bush?s political career, calculating that the road to Washington ran through Austin, the Christian right seized control of the Texas Republican Party.



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                                                                                                                                    • baddog
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                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                      • 107089
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by WarChild
                                                                                                                                      No way man .. Hillary Clinton in '08
                                                                                                                                      am glad you included the - but I bet there are people out there that think you are serious

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                                                                                                                                        • pornguy
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Face it guys He won, and nothing will change it. If someone were to come up with something pointing that he cheated it somehow, that person would vanish along with the proof.


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                                                                                                                                            • baddog
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                                                                                                                                              • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                              • 107089
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by SuckOnThis
                                                                                                                                              The movement for a recount is getting stronger, Nader is trying to get it started with a recount in NH.
                                                                                                                                              Nader is an idiot

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                                                                                                                                                • Hey You . . . I Know You!
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                                                                                                                                                  • 1908
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Actually, the scope of the person drawn into this ?Rove/Republican? scam went beyond those just the ?insane Jesus freaks? and that is why it was so damned effective.


                                                                                                                                                  Unethical . . . but effective.

                                                                                                                                                  Immoral . . . but effective.

                                                                                                                                                  Un-American . . . but effective.

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                                                                                                                                                    • crowkid
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                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2003
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                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      please give it up.. he won...I mean if you want to make up lies and say it was stolen, thats your business...But honestly, are we really buying this bullshit?? How can people be so stubborn??

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                                                                                                                                                        • Hey You . . . I Know You!
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                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by crowkid
                                                                                                                                                          please give it up.. he won...I mean if you want to make up lies and say it was stolen, thats your business...But honestly, are we really buying this bullshit?? How can people be so stubborn??
                                                                                                                                                          Perhaps you should read the thread. The thread reveals a lot about what people are talking about (relative to the proposed designated topic).

                                                                                                                                                          In fact . . . it is exactly what people are talking about.

                                                                                                                                                          You (on the other hand) have posted something that has nothing to do with what is being discussed . . . think about it.

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                                                                                                                                                            • trouserrat
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                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Hey You . . . I Know You!
                                                                                                                                                              Perhaps you should read the thread. The thread reveals a lot about what people are talking about (relative to the proposed designated topic).

                                                                                                                                                              In fact . . . it is exactly what people are talking about.

                                                                                                                                                              You (on the other hand) have posted something that has nothing to do with what is being discussed . . . think about it.
                                                                                                                                                              I imagine he, like myself and some others on the board, has simply grown tired of seeing know-nothings trot out lame excuse after lame excuse and implausible conspiracy theory after implausible consipracy theory to explain why Kerry lost when the answer is pretty obvious to anyone with a small amount of intelligence and the ability to think beyond their hate and propaganda.

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                                                                                                                                                                • Furious_Male
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                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by pornguy
                                                                                                                                                                  Face it guys He won, and nothing will change it. If someone were to come up with something pointing that he cheated it somehow, that person would vanish along with the proof.


                                                                                                                                                                  Just make due.
                                                                                                                                                                  This is the point I am at. If I hear Senator Kerry himself start speaking about such things then I may pay attention. Other then that it is just all talk. Nothing is going to change.
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                                                                                                                                                                    • Xenophage
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      gays abortion and stem cells got the christians to vote

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                                                                                                                                                                        • volante
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by trouserrat
                                                                                                                                                                          ...when the answer is pretty obvious to anyone with a small amount of intelligence and the ability to think beyond their hate and propaganda.
                                                                                                                                                                          Note to Americans - THIS is a perfect example of irony...

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                                                                                                                                                                            • trouserrat
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by volante
                                                                                                                                                                              Note to Americans - THIS is a perfect example of irony...
                                                                                                                                                                              Note to all Democrats: Your hate and vitriol is killing your own party, alienating Republicans and moderate Democrats alike. You can deny it, but the elections say otherwise. By the way, I refer you to sperbonzo's above 3 posts.

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                                                                                                                                                                                • datezonline
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2004
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                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  cook my dinner bitch
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • BlueDesignStudios
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      this thread needs some stupid bush pics

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Love Brokers
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2004
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                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Veterans Day
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • tony299
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by sperbonzo
                                                                                                                                                                                              The fact that the media refuses to acknowledge is that the US is NOT that liberal. People in the US, the majority of them are:

                                                                                                                                                                                              Self-sufficient, and DON't think that the goverment, (i.e. everyone else), OWES them everything, and doesn't want the goverment interfering in the running of their businesses.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Patriotic, and think that serving in the military is an honorable thing to do.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Religious, and go to some kind of worship once a week, and think that some things are right, and some things are wrong.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Law-abiding, and believe in a strong police and jail system.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Believe in the right to bear arms, (note that 37 out of 50 states are right-to-carry states, and more coming on all the time)

                                                                                                                                                                                              etc, etc, etc....


                                                                                                                                                                                              These REALLY are the people that make up the majority of the US...it is simply distorted by both the media, and the fact that most foreign vistors go to the liberal coastal cities.

                                                                                                                                                                                              I'm not saying that liberals don't have some of those same ideals, but they tend to be MUCH more diuted on the left than the majority of the US actually feels.
                                                                                                                                                                                              If they believe in those things why would they vote for W? A man who spends like a drunken sailor is getting government way into peoples lives and avoided serving in Vietnam and has cut benefits for soldiers? Also we will see how you feel when they come down on porn and your selling cars for a living.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • colpanic
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • May 2004
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by xenigo
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Democrats had a DAMN strong campaign, my friend. We were out there in full force, knocking on people's doors to deliver the message of Democracy. We were driving them to the vote in masses. We had over 1000 people in both Reno and Vegas every weekend for the past several months, and talked to 40,000 people each time.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Don't tell me the Democrats didn't have a strong enough campaign when you know nothing about what we were doing. Just for the record, we didn't come across a single Rebublican during our canvassing, and I personally saw ONE Rebublican voter guide lying on the ground the entire time I was in Nevada.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Sorry dude, I wish you were right, really.. .but you aren't.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  I just moved to Cali from Raleigh NC... and it's funny, but people in Cali are so stunned that Bush won... Cali is *SO* liberal compared to the rest of the country it's crazy. Go campaign in the south, and see how many democrats you run into.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Sad but true.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • colpanic
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • May 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 1007
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Peacemaker
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      Oh, well thats good,.. because Nader is such a well respected person... Did you watch his debate with the action figure versions of Bush and Kerry?

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