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signupdamnit 02-25-2013 05:28 PM

So how long until Manwin collapses?
 
1. CEO was in jail.
2. Tax issues.
3. Government investigations
4. Layoffs
5. Rumors about trying to renegotiate deals due to lack of revenues

People always say that the mighty never fall but in this industry history shows that the biggest players are often built on a house of cards.

How long do you think it will be until they fall or something happens like they get bought out or have their assets broken up?

I give it eight months. They are already bleeding.

epitome 02-25-2013 05:30 PM

When did the layoffs start? I missed that part.

signupdamnit 02-25-2013 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19500225)
When did the layoffs start? I missed that part.

There have been a few http://pornnewstoday.com/pnt/?p=298 but the recent one I heard was in Germany. Supposedly they are being replaced with workers in Ireland though.

Supz 02-25-2013 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19500225)
When did the layoffs start? I missed that part.

he thinks because they fired people in germany, to move there office to ireland or wherever its going is layoffs.

Mark67 02-25-2013 05:34 PM

If Manwin collapses, that would mean most of the best sites gone.

DatePoster 02-25-2013 05:39 PM

collapse in motion...

marlboroack 02-25-2013 05:47 PM

10 days, 2 hours, 46 mins, 24 seconds

Barefootsies 02-25-2013 05:55 PM

Too big toe fail.

brassmonkey 02-25-2013 05:57 PM

stop worrying if they collapsed someone would fill the gap. :2 cents: theres money to be made

My Fucking Traffic 02-25-2013 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marlboroack (Post 19500252)
10 days, 2 hours, 46 mins, 24 seconds

I'll go with 10 days, 2 hours, 46 minutes and 23 seconds, Bob.

BFT3K 02-25-2013 06:19 PM

Nice!

http://i.imgur.com/KtDN6Hr.gif http://i.imgur.com/KtDN6Hr.gif
http://i.imgur.com/KtDN6Hr.gif http://i.imgur.com/KtDN6Hr.gif

pornmasta 02-25-2013 06:24 PM

it would hurt my balls :/

pornmasta 02-25-2013 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 19500266)
stop worrying if they collapsed someone would fill the gap. :2 cents: theres money to be made

exactly :thumbsup

EriktheRabbit 02-25-2013 06:29 PM

They'll be on life support by the end of the year.
Playboy already told them to stick it...The rest will follow.

JFK 02-25-2013 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EriktheRabbit (Post 19500303)
They'll be on life support by the end of the year.
Playboy already told them to stick it...The rest will follow.

Any Proof ??:2 cents:

pornmasta 02-25-2013 07:07 PM

btw is everything fine for playboy ?

tokmansta 02-25-2013 07:21 PM

Which are the tubes owned by Manwin?

mechanicvirus 02-25-2013 07:23 PM

pbbc dumped manwin, they will die soon.

My Fucking Traffic 02-25-2013 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mechanicvirus (Post 19500395)
pbbc dumped manwin, they will die soon.

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

PBBC, Inc subsidiary of Pepperidge Farms, owned by ABC International, subsidiary of NBC Universal, owned by my dad who is your mom, has cut all funding to Manwin.

ircandy 02-25-2013 07:28 PM

I hope they don't collapse. MofosCash is one my better converting sponsors. :(

EriktheRabbit 02-25-2013 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK (Post 19500311)
Any Proof ??:2 cents:

It was already reported on mainstream news that Playboy is not interested in deal re-negotiation. Its a standard move for companies to get their properties back in deals not doing well.

You have two fingers, do the walkin'. :winkwink:

RyuLion 02-25-2013 07:38 PM

huh? lol.........

PornMD 02-25-2013 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 19500266)
stop worrying if they collapsed someone would fill the gap. :2 cents: theres money to be made

Not as much as there used to be, thanks to assholes like them.

NemesisEnforcer 02-25-2013 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK (Post 19500311)
Any Proof ??:2 cents:

Probably based on the article in the Wall Street Journal.

ottopottomouse 02-25-2013 08:37 PM

'layoffs' were just moving away from Germany to somewhere more friendly.

mikesouth 02-25-2013 09:28 PM

Interesting timing SUD you may be closer to the truth than you know

I had a long talk with a playboy honcho tonight

Barefootsies 02-25-2013 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19500546)
Interesting timing SUD you may be closer to the truth than you know

I had a long talk with a playboy honcho tonight


JFK 02-25-2013 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NemesisEnforcer (Post 19500482)
Probably based on the article in the Wall Street Journal.

Thanks for the hint :winkwink::thumbsup

Mutt 02-26-2013 12:03 AM

if Manwin comes up short on their payments Playboy will have to go after them legally but i think the last thing they want back are those cable channels and websites.

EddyTheDog 02-26-2013 12:06 AM

Quote:

Already Manwin has tried to renegotiate the $14 million it promised to pay Playboy annually because the digital and TV content isn't generating enough revenue, according to people familiar with the matter.

A Manwin spokeswoman declined to comment. Playboy said that, while such discussions were initiated, it refused to accommodate a reduction of its minimum guarantees.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...YWORDS=playboy

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 02-26-2013 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 19500573)

http://cdn.motinetwork.net/demotivat...1232750942.png

Can hardly wait for the Poohbah of Porn (Fabian Thylmann), to quit lurking and finally man-up and make a post to try and clear everything up once and for all... :upsidedow

The lack of info coming out of Manwin since their (supposed) leader was released from jail to house arrest (after having to post a multi-millon dollar bond), makes one wonder if Fabian is even in charge at Manwin anymore, or if instead Antoon Feras (the former Mansef money-laundering era management holdover) has in essence staged a bloodless coup and taken over, and is still the one calling the shots while Fabian remains on house arrest awaiting trial (Feras is the one that claimed in the only official announcement that I have seen, that he in-effect was in charge of Manwin when Fabian Thylmann was indisposed, sitting in a jail cell for weeks in December, on suspicion of massive tax evasion, and possibly other criminal wrongdoing).

All of the negative publicity over the past few months has certainly tarnished the image and sullied the reputation that Manwin tried so hard to cultivate/buy in order to appear legitimate to investors and takeover targets. It must be pretty unsettling to Manwin's investors to now see everything going sour so quickly.

Manwin has fallen from seemingly omnipotent, to unseemly and fairly impotent, in the course of a few short months, with the company currently in a crisis/siege mentality mode, maintaining a virtual PR lockdown. :2 cents:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-o6wNLbATO4...ave+fallen.jpg

:stoned

ADG

looky_lou 02-26-2013 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 19500682)
if Manwin comes up short on their payments Playboy will have to go after them legally but i think the last thing they want back are those cable channels and websites.

I think you are right. Those properties were bad when they unloaded them on Manwin and they are even worse now.:Oh crap

SGS 02-26-2013 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 19500505)
'layoffs' were just moving away from Germany to somewhere more friendly.

Ireland is going to be a LOT more friendly :1orglaugh

v4 media 02-26-2013 03:42 AM

Renegotiating deals.. If an asset doesn't perform as well as you were lead to believe, you try and adjust the deal nope?


Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 19500230)
There have been a few http://pornnewstoday.com/pnt/?p=298 but the recent one I heard was in Germany. Supposedly they are being replaced with workers in Ireland though.

Lowering your corp tax rate to 12% makes perfect sense.

blackmonsters 02-26-2013 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marlboroack (Post 19500252)
10 days, 2 hours, 46 mins, 24 seconds

Is that when you promised to pay them?
If so then yeah, they're fucked.


:1orglaugh

Matyko 02-26-2013 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 19500223)
1. CEO was in jail.
2. Tax issues.
3. Government investigations
4. Layoffs
5. Rumors about trying to renegotiate deals due to lack of revenues

People always say that the mighty never fall but in this industry history shows that the biggest players are often built on a house of cards.

How long do you think it will be until they fall or something happens like they get bought out or have their assets broken up?

I give it eight months. They are already bleeding.

They are strong and won't go nowhere in the near future I am 99.99% sure. :2 cents:

slapass 02-26-2013 06:20 AM

Anyone who has done as many deals as they have is likely to have done a few bad ones. How would there tubes even go under at this point? Playboy used to be a great company but now? Seems like maybe they would want to give back those channels.

SomeCreep 02-26-2013 06:54 AM

Never. Too big to fail.

beerptrol 02-26-2013 07:05 AM

If things ever get that bad, they'll do the porn shuffle. Start up a "new" company under "new" ownership and transfer their sites over to themselves

Legendary Samir - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-26-2013 07:34 AM

Haters galore.


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