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pornmasta 12-05-2011 05:52 AM
met-art and CP
 
I read that in the past it was possible to find underage content on Met-art, i'm curious to know the official version (or your version).

Fletch XXX 12-05-2011 05:59 AM
the word art is used too often to describe things that are far from being considered art. porn is entertainment, no one considers Oprah art. or what tom cruise does, art.

icymelon 12-05-2011 06:00 AM
I think a lot of metarts photography is very artistic

pornmasta 12-05-2011 06:01 AM
it is not a problem of art...
It is not a problem of meth...

Fletch XXX 12-05-2011 06:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 18607575)
it is not a problem of art...
It is not a problem of meth...

gotcha my apologies for offtopic comment. just having coffee and was thinking outloud its barely 7 am heheh

Mutt 12-05-2011 06:05 AM
years and years ago, 10 years at least, there were definitely girls on Met-Art's tour that appeared to be underage, Russian photographers/sites have always been known to play games with age documentation, Gallitsin who I think did shoot for Met way back then had his own paysite Gallitsin Archives and was charge and convicted and i believe is still in jail.

Met swept their site clean 10 years ago and no site I know of is more strict about age documentation, they won't even accept sample photos from Met photographers submitting new models for approval without photo ID's to go with the samples.

Met's not even owned by the original owners anymore.

pornmasta 12-05-2011 06:10 AM
Galitsin's Angels: From Russia with Love ?

myjah 12-05-2011 06:13 AM
Met-Art is on the up-and-up. The models are of legal age.

pornmasta 12-05-2011 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by myjah (Post 18607582)
Met-Art is on the up-and-up. The models are of legal age.
Well, yes i think so, they have a californian custodian of record.



read this page:

http://mirror.wikileaks.info/wiki/An...to_child_porn/

feel free to add your comments on this link.

JayS 12-05-2011 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 18607579)
Galitsin's Angels: From Russia with Love ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigori_Galitsin

just a punk 12-05-2011 08:59 AM
http://wikileaks.org/wiki/An_insight_into_child_porn

Edit: sorry, just noticed this link was already posted above. However it answers to the OP's question in full. IMHO.

EukerVoorn 12-05-2011 09:14 AM
Traci Lords.

helterskelter808 12-05-2011 09:25 AM
Pretty sure they used to do pics of kids, like ALS, in the 90s, which either they spammed to Usenet groups, or other people did.

L-Pink 12-05-2011 09:28 AM
There was a very famous european photographer who's name escapes me that had beautiful artistic photos with underage girls.

edit; the guy made coffee table photo books.

edit 2; David Hamilton

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Roald 12-05-2011 09:32 AM
Some old timers on GFY even were into this "art" shit.

TLE 12-05-2011 10:01 AM
I can assure you. MetArt is fully and completely legal. As mentioned above there is very rigorous systems in place to be sure.

helterskelter808 12-05-2011 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Roald (Post 18607966)
Some old timers on GFY even were into this "art" shit.
That fucks me off too. "Art". Fuck off.

If you (not you, Roald) are into pics of nudie kids, at least have the balls to it's because it gives you a boner; not because you want to hang it on a wall.

As for "[yeah we did it] but we're very against it now". Oh, that's okay then, right? And nothing at all to do with laws and regulations. Some people would try and make a cent from anything if they could get away with it.

nikki99 12-05-2011 10:46 AM
meth art :1orglaugh

cordoba 12-05-2011 10:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18607946)
Pretty sure they used to do pics of kids, like ALS, in the 90s, which either they spammed to Usenet groups, or other people did.
How do you know that???

pornmasta 12-05-2011 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by EukerVoorn (Post 18607896)
Traci Lords.
And some old charlie laine spanking stuff ? (not sure)

helterskelter808 12-05-2011 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by cordoba (Post 18608222)
How do you know that???
Because I used to read Usenet in the 90s (and 2000s for that matter).

Usenet was the home of free porn before anyone had even dreamed of selling it online. It's where millionaire webmasters of 2011 used to steal porn from and sell it in the 90s, before they got rich enough to make their own and issue DMCAs, after suddenly deciding for some unknown reason that theft of porn was wrong.

cordoba 12-05-2011 11:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18608349)
Because I used to read Usenet in the 90s (and 2000s for that matter).

Usenet was the home of free porn before anyone had even dreamed of selling it online. It's where millionaire webmasters of 2011 used to steal porn from and sell it in the 90s, before they got rich enough to make their own and issue DMCAs, after suddenly deciding for some unknown reason that theft of porn was wrong.
Yea, but I doubt if child pornographers were spamming the MILF usenet groups...

helterskelter808 12-05-2011 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by cordoba (Post 18608360)
Yea, but I doubt if child pornographers were spamming the MILF usenet groups...
Where do child pornographers spam then, in your experience?

cordoba 12-05-2011 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18608376)
Where do child pornographers spam then, in your experience?
I wouldn't know from direct experience, and I've never subscribed to usenet, but everyone here knows that niche porn gets spammed primarily in forums/groups where members are searching for that niche.

helterskelter808 12-05-2011 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by cordoba (Post 18608401)
I wouldn't know from direct experience, and I've never subscribed to usenet
Which explains why you don't have a clue how Usenet works or what is.

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but everyone here knows that niche porn get's spammed primarily in forums/groups where members are searching for that niche.
You seem to be taking a while to get your point.

Mutt 12-05-2011 12:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 18608277)
And some old charlie laine spanking stuff ? (not sure)
charlie laine was underage when she got into porn?

where did u read/hear that?

pornmasta 12-05-2011 12:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 18608429)
charlie laine was underage when she got into porn?

where did u read/hear that?
I think it was her.
I think it was on wikipedia.
A girl like her in spanking.

Bladewire 12-05-2011 12:13 PM
Grigori Galitsin posted some pretty interesting docs on his Picasa web album last March and his blog shows life is good :thumbsup

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-c.../zapros_rd.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-w...DVIG_1_600.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-J...delo_600_4.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-c...2/otvet_rd.jpg

pornmasta 12-05-2011 12:17 PM
I think that russian is probably as useful as english in this business ;)

pornmasta 12-05-2011 12:22 PM
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-J...delo_600_4.jpg



http://www.galitsin-news.com/

cordoba 12-05-2011 12:52 PM
[QUOTE=helterskelter808;18608413]Which explains why you don't have a clue how Usenet works or what is.
/QUOTE]

That's right, I avoid visiting sites or forums on the internet which are notorious for having child porn posted on them.

Quote:
You seem to be taking a while to get your point.
The point is - we're talking about (I assume, in relation to met-art) naked pictures of 16 and 17 year old 'kiddies' when it was legal back then in most places in Europe.

O.K., I can see how somebody whose very religious, or otherwise puritanical could get on their high horse about it and think that anyone who involved themselves with that even when it was legal are going to burn in hell.

I really can't see how people like the majority of us here, who make money out of hardcore porn featuring girls primarily 18 - 21, could see it as much of an issue at all, to be honest.

And, yea, it is a bit weird that you need to make a point of declaring such firm views and lecturing others when you admit to frequenting groups in which such child porn was regularly posted. In most countries viewing child porn is illegal, and going back to forums or groups in which it is regularly posted or 'spammed' wouldn't even begin to count as any excuse in a court of law.

helterskelter808 12-05-2011 01:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cordoba (Post 18608555)
Quote:
Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18608413)
Which explains why you don't have a clue how Usenet works or what is.
That's right, I avoid visiting sites or forums on the internet which are notorious for having child porn posted on them.
Why are you making such a show of denying something that nobody has even accused you of?

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I really can't see how people like the majority of us here, who make money out of hardcore porn featuring girls primarily 18 - 21, could see it as much of an issue at all, to be honest.
Earlier you were speaking on behalf of everyone here, now it's most people here. Can you give a list of, say, 25 people who agree with you that images of naked underage girls are not much of an issue at all?

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And, yea, it is a bit weird that you need to make a point of declaring such firm views
Please quote which "firm views" of mine you think are weird, exactly.

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and lecturing others
Who have I lectured, exactly?

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when you admit to frequenting groups in which such child porn was regularly posted.
I really don't want to see anyone banned, but since you're simply flat out lying now, and making serious false accusations, I'll give you a chance to either back up that lie with a quote from me saying anything even remotely like 'I frequent groups where CP was regularly posted', or you can retract it and admit you're a liar who is remarkably upset at things I said that nobody else seems to have a problem with.

Quote:
In most countries viewing child porn is illegal, and going back to forums or groups in which it is regularly posted or 'spammed' wouldn't even begin to count as any excuse in a court of law.
If you read the thread, fuckwit, you'll see not only did I not say anywhere that I read forums or groups where CP is posted (regularly or not), the first person (between the two of us) to specifically refer to CP was you, and the only reason I mentioned it was in reply to you.

Once you've read the thread again and realized what thin ice you're on, I'd advise you to make your apology.

MaDalton 12-05-2011 02:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18607949)
There was a very famous european photographer who's name escapes me that had beautiful artistic photos with underage girls.

edit; the guy made coffee table photo books.

edit 2; David Hamilton

.
you can buy plenty of Jock Sturges books at Amazon

porno jew 12-05-2011 03:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18608701)
Why are you making such a show of denying something that nobody has even accused you of?



Earlier you were speaking on behalf of everyone here, now it's most people here. Can you give a list of, say, 25 people who agree with you that images of naked underage girls are not much of an issue at all?



Please quote which "firm views" of mine you think are weird, exactly.



Who have I lectured, exactly?



I really don't want to see anyone banned, but since you're simply flat out lying now, and making serious false accusations, I'll give you a chance to either back up that lie with a quote from me saying anything even remotely like 'I frequent groups where CP was regularly posted', or you can retract it and admit you're a liar who is remarkably upset at things I said that nobody else seems to have a problem with.



If you read the thread, fuckwit, you'll see not only did I not say anywhere that I read forums or groups where CP is posted (regularly or not), the first person (between the two of us) to specifically refer to CP was you, and the only reason I mentioned it was in reply to you.

Once you've read the thread again and realized what thin ice you're on, I'd advise you to make your apology.
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

helterskelter808 12-05-2011 03:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18608906)
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."
What am I protesting, exactly?

What am I projecting, exactly?

porno jew 12-05-2011 03:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18608921)
What am I protesting, exactly?



What am I projecting, exactly?
that is between you and your conscience.

helterskelter808 12-05-2011 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18608929)
that is between you and your conscience.
Why are you trolling here, porno jew? Bored with the subject of accused child sex offender Jerry Sandusky you posted so much about?

porno jew 12-05-2011 03:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18608949)
Why are you trolling here, porno jew? Bored with the subject of accused child sex offender Jerry Sandusky you posted so much about?

what is with your obsession with child sex crimes?

i concerned myself with potato salad today. why are you thinking about little children being molested. please explain.

helterskelter808 12-05-2011 03:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18608972)
what is with your obsession with child sex crimes?
You should have read that link on projection, rather than just posting it. Though it did shed interesting light on why you seem to post so often about accused child sex offender Jerry Sandusky. Is he also Jewish? And why you decided to get involved in this thread.

How many other threads have you started on the subject of child abuse, porno jew? How many posts have you obsessively made referring to "penn state" in threads that weren't about it? How many threads about child abuse or CP have you clicked on and replied to?

Do you neighbors know about what you get up to online, porno jew, and that you start threads about child abuse on a pornography forum? Please explain.

porno jew 12-05-2011 03:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18609044)
You should have read that link on projection, rather than just posting it. Though it did shed interesting light on why you seem to post so often about accused child sex offender Jerry Sandusky. Is he also Jewish? And why you decided to get involved in this thread.

How many other threads have you started on the subject of child abuse, porno jew? How many posts have you obsessively made referring to "penn state" in threads that weren't about it? How many threads about child abuse or CP have you clicked on and replied to?
everyone who read this thread knows who is on the defensive about child exploitation. good luck with your issues.


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