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  • Lensman
    GFY Chaperone
    • Jan 2001
    • 9846

    #1

    SmutCash/M Davies Clash Solved

    THIS IS PREFACE TO THIS THREAD

    This dispute has been hashed out everywhere over the past week.

    I am glad to say that we have resolved it right here on GFY today. And both parties are happy and I can recommend doing business with either party.

    Now on with the thread:
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    I am ready to call a winner in this battle.

    There's blood in the streets. I think this now is a losing battle for both parties.

    HERE IS MY SOLUTION:

    Here's how I would handle it if an intermediary said they were promised a 10% referral fee and my staff person denied it. I would agree to pay the 10% IF the traffic source agreed to send a matching # of signups (and the 10% would be paid on all the old and new signups).

    If the intermediary doesn't have that much control over their client, then fine, no dice and I declare the sponsor the winner. If the intermediary says no on grounds of 'principle', then I would remind her that you have agreed to come off of your principles and should meet you half way (and I again declare the sponsor the winner if the intermediary is mired in principle).

    If the sponsor is unwilling to make this offer, then I declare the intermediary the winner (smutcash, it's a win-win and if you can't profit from the arrangement, then just raise the recurring on their signups only by $10)


    [This message has been edited by Lensman (edited 08-01-2001).]
  • Chris R
    Confirmed User
    • May 2001
    • 1151

    #2
    Originally posted by Lensman:
    I think this now is a losing battle for both parties.

    Isn't that the truth - and they don't see it. Both need to invest in eyeglasses and dictionaries.

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    • 12clicks
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Jan 2001
      • 19816

      #3
      wouldn't the traffic source know weather or not they were working with a broker or not?
      couldn't they solve the issue?

      I'm all about peace, harmony, and good will to all men
      I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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      • MelissaD
        Confirmed User
        • May 2001
        • 155

        #4
        I'll agree to that, thank you Lensmen.

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        • Lensman
          GFY Chaperone
          • Jan 2001
          • 9846

          #5
          Super, one side agrees. SmutCash, don't let her win!

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          • Techie Media
            Confirmed User
            • Jan 2001
            • 3092

            #6
            Lensman, that sounds like a very fair way to settle this.
            Also 12clicks is OH So correct, if there really was an arrangement to have a middleman here, then the traffic source should be able to back this up.., well assuming their not involved in a part of the commission fee??....hummmm now that would be an interresting twist to the saga??..

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            • MelissaD
              Confirmed User
              • May 2001
              • 155

              #7
              The only thing I've been asking for is stats, which Tyler has refused to give, I just want totals of # of webmaster and # of sign ups.

              I think that's a fair request.

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              • Lensman
                GFY Chaperone
                • Jan 2001
                • 9846

                #8
                # of webmaster? What do you mean?

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                • MelissaD
                  Confirmed User
                  • May 2001
                  • 155

                  #9
                  I work with a lot of newbies, I send them a care package with helpful hints, etc and my ref id to sign up for programs. How I cover my costs to work with them.

                  I just want to know how many webmasters have signed up and used my ref ID.

                  And how many sign ups those webmasters have sent.

                  These are the stats I've been asking for, for weeks.

                  Thanks for the support Lensmen (nice to know after all these years of doing business together) "Don't let her win"

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                  • TSmutcash
                    Registered User
                    • Jul 2001
                    • 47

                    #10
                    My question is this, She wants the stats of the clients that she sent to us.

                    I sent them an email asking there permision to give this data to her. They did not respond

                    I will protect the data of my clients first.

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                    • Lensman
                      GFY Chaperone
                      • Jan 2001
                      • 9846

                      #11
                      M- Remember, I'm also an amateur psychologist.

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                      • TSmutcash
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2001
                        • 47

                        #12
                        We dont have a refferal system on our website.

                        This is the confusion from the start.

                        We have a button that asked who reffered you.
                        This is for our own marketing.

                        She was under the impression we has some sort of refferal system set up.

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                        • TSmutcash
                          Registered User
                          • Jul 2001
                          • 47

                          #13
                          The only refferl we pay is if they come to use on the side and explain who they sent over.

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                          • Lensman
                            GFY Chaperone
                            • Jan 2001
                            • 9846

                            #14
                            I haven't heard of any major referral programs that don't give you basic referral data. You may not get names and addresses, but you get account #'s.

                            Anyone correct me if I'm wrong.

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                            • MelissaD
                              Confirmed User
                              • May 2001
                              • 155

                              #15
                              No That is not the problem the deal was made with Klient in the begining. When we discussed a higher pay out for my special clients. I include it with my newbies mostly because gee Klient said to make sure and use my affialiate id.

                              How many times do I need to say this?


                              Again I'm asking totals, not specifics, what is confidential about that?

                              Since Tyler keeps making excuses, I guess I win.

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                              • MelissaD
                                Confirmed User
                                • May 2001
                                • 155

                                #16
                                I'm not even asking for the affiliate id's I just want the totals....




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                                • Lensman
                                  GFY Chaperone
                                  • Jan 2001
                                  • 9846

                                  #17
                                  You arranged a special payout, that's how you know who's involved, right?

                                  And if she had a special referrer link, they you know who clicked that, right?

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                                  • Naughty
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jul 2001
                                    • 6485

                                    #18
                                    Definately, which promotor wants to do referrals if you'll never know who you referred...

                                    Sounds stupid. Would you?

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                                    • TSmutcash
                                      Registered User
                                      • Jul 2001
                                      • 47

                                      #19
                                      Refferal programs usually have a seperate link code,

                                      Click here to join smutcash,, use my link code so I get credit..

                                      Sorry, but our system does not have this sort of program..

                                      Like I said If she came to us and worked out some sort of deal then we would have paid her.

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                                      • TSmutcash
                                        Registered User
                                        • Jul 2001
                                        • 47

                                        #20
                                        go here and look at our join page.
                                        http://www.smutcash.com/done_files/getstarted.html

                                        This is all we have.

                                        We dont have a special like code that we gave her...

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                                        • Lensman
                                          GFY Chaperone
                                          • Jan 2001
                                          • 9846

                                          #21
                                          Again:

                                          You arranged a special payout, that's how you know who's involved, right?

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                                          • MrCockTale
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jan 2001
                                            • 669

                                            #22
                                            I'd like to know what kind of amount this is about? $10, $100, $10k??


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                                            • Techie Media
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jan 2001
                                              • 3092

                                              #23
                                              Melissa, please don't take this the wrong way, I don't know you, nor do I know smutcash. But I do have a tiny bit of knowledge in this biz.. OK it seems to me that there is some major confussion going on here as to what the deal (if there was any) is. If you were sendind out helpfull tips to your clients with recommended sponsors and with your referral codes, then you should have had an Iron clad deal set up with each sponsor you are promoting. Actually, I would most likely myself would have a tight close working relationship all in place with the sponsors I was recommending, before sending any clients to them... These are just my thoughts..

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                                              • Lensman
                                                GFY Chaperone
                                                • Jan 2001
                                                • 9846

                                                #24
                                                Lightning, I think she arranged a special deal for them.

                                                SmutCash, fish or cut bait.

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                                                • MelissaD
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • May 2001
                                                  • 155

                                                  #25
                                                  Again Tyler I did come to you and work out a deal - excuse me I came to Klient and worked out a deal, the only thing that wasn't settled was if it was $5 per or 10%.

                                                  I sent my clients to you, with my affiliate id, they entered, manually, some programs have the special link some don't. I send out lots of care packages as I'm willing to spend my time energy and effort to help other webmasters, especially newbies who don't have the resources to hire me straight out. Traffic brokering is only part of what I do.

                                                  Again more excuses Tyler as to why you won't give me the totals.... I have yet to get an answer on that.

                                                  So Lensmen Tyler has given you his answer.

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                                                  • TSmutcash
                                                    Registered User
                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                    • 47

                                                    #26
                                                    This is the problem from the start with her.
                                                    She worked out a deal with her clients to get paid more if they sent more sales.
                                                    Never did she say anyting about her feee.
                                                    She assumed this, So that is whay im at a loss. I dont know what to pay her !!

                                                    This is the icq log from the other day..
                                                    She sent this log to me,

                                                    Klient 7/30/01 7:06 PM yes, done
                                                    Klient 7/30/01 7:06 PM every month
                                                    wire
                                                    $45 per signup
                                                    Surfer 7/30/01 7:16 PM coolness and my stats
                                                    Klient 7/30/01 7:16 PM no clue
                                                    u have 5 signups
                                                    or some shit
                                                    Klient 7/30/01 7:16 PM i dont get how you r setup
                                                    in regards to refferals?
                                                    Klient 7/30/01 7:16 PM r u getting paid per refferal?
                                                    Surfer 7/30/01 7:20 PM i should be
                                                    Klient 7/30/01 7:20 PM how much?
                                                    Surfer 7/30/01 7:22 PM you tell me you set up the deal - usually I
                                                    get 10% or $5 per sign up
                                                    Klient 7/30/01 7:23 PM we never discussed a refferal amount did we?
                                                    Surfer 7/30/01 7:24 PM not really
                                                    Klient 7/30/01 7:24 PM exactly
                                                    Klient 7/30/01 7:25 PM i thought our deal was just giving your
                                                    clients $45 per signup?

                                                    Take note on these 2 lines

                                                    Klient 7/30/01 7:23 PM we never discussed a refferal amount did we?
                                                    Surfer 7/30/01 7:24 PM not really

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                                                    • TSmutcash
                                                      Registered User
                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                      • 47

                                                      #27
                                                      Melissa, You didnt send out an Affliate id to us,
                                                      Cause, WE DONT HAVE AFFILATE ID SYSTEM SET UP

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                                                      • Lensman
                                                        GFY Chaperone
                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                        • 9846

                                                        #28
                                                        It's clear her clients had a special deal and therefore you know who they were.

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                                                        • TSmutcash
                                                          Registered User
                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                          • 47

                                                          #29
                                                          Melissa, This is your ICQ log you sent to me.

                                                          What more can I say....

                                                          Someone asked how much this is over.

                                                          I wish I could say, cause melissa never work out any amount with us.

                                                          If melissa did work out a refferal fee then we would pay it.

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                                                          • Lensman
                                                            GFY Chaperone
                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                            • 9846

                                                            #30
                                                            OK, SmutCash. This is your final word? Because I ready to declare a winner, and tell the world about it.

                                                            My time is valuable, and I'm not going to waste anymore on this. And if someone wants to sue me, it will be very entertaining.

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                                                            • TSmutcash
                                                              Registered User
                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                              • 47

                                                              #31
                                                              Yes, I know the clients and we are paying them the amount that was worked out between klient and her.

                                                              Never, and I repeat Never did she explain
                                                              to us what she gets paid.......

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                                                              • TSmutcash
                                                                Registered User
                                                                • Jul 2001
                                                                • 47

                                                                #32
                                                                Im not looking for a winner, I trying to settle with the lady

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                                                                • MelissaD
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • May 2001
                                                                  • 155

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Take note that Tyler didn't include the whole conversation all way back to June, and the only thing that wasn't finalized is if its going to be $5 or 10% recurring.

                                                                  again, I've said this over and over and over, same thing, the same responses from Tyler, I'm more then willing to do what Lensmen suggests obvioulsy Tyler isn't. That's fine. Again it just shows what kind of business Tyler runs.

                                                                  We aren't talking 10's of K. Again my whole point this is this:

                                                                  1. I get no response to any e-mails I sent to Klient or beth and finally to tyler until I went to the boards.

                                                                  2. On the phone Tyler and Klient said they weren't paying my clients (they come first)

                                                                  3. When is Tyler or Klient actually going to answer any of my questions? Total # of webmasters, Total # of sign ups. On the special deals yes I know. But like I said I've sent more just plain deals ($45 per sign was a volume deal only)



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                                                                  • Lensman
                                                                    GFY Chaperone
                                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                                    • 9846

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Read the first post in this thread, do you accept or not? She accepts.

                                                                    Anything else is rehtoric. And unless you cannot give us a logical reason why you cannot provide referral stats, you should do so.

                                                                    [This message has been edited by Lensman (edited 08-01-2001).]

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                                                                    • Techie Media
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                      • 3092

                                                                      #35
                                                                      OK Melissa, I am starting to see the light.. Lensman is a very wise old man, and I see where hes going with this. I now see your side and believe what you say. So here is the final question to Smut Cash.. Don't side step this question.. Did you Ever Make a deal with Melissa??? YES or NO ???
                                                                      This is a simple question..!!!

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                                                                      • MelissaD
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • May 2001
                                                                        • 155

                                                                        #36
                                                                        If you were trying to settle this then send a report everyone who has signed up to your program and said my affiliate id sent them.

                                                                        And a report showing how many sign ups.

                                                                        You haven't done that. So I don't see where you are trying to work things out.

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                                                                        • MelissaD
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • May 2001
                                                                          • 155

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Thanks for the support Lightning

                                                                          I just want to make one final comment, while I appriciate Lensmen trying to settle things, I didn't come to the boards to get things settled, Tyler settled them when he backed out of the deal that was made with Klient. I just wanted to share my experiences.


                                                                          Lensmen if you are coming to Miami I think its time we finally meet face to face.

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                                                                          • Lensman
                                                                            GFY Chaperone
                                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                                            • 9846

                                                                            #38
                                                                            M- It's best not to talk after the you ask for the close.

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                                                                            • TSmutcash
                                                                              Registered User
                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                              • 47

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Ok NO, she never communicated with us about her refferal fee.

                                                                              If she did communicate with us there would not be a question if it ws $5 or 10%.
                                                                              We would have decided on one or the other..

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                                                                              • Lensman
                                                                                GFY Chaperone
                                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                                • 9846

                                                                                #40
                                                                                REPEATING:

                                                                                OK, SmutCash. This is your final word? Because I ready to declare a winner, and tell the world about it.

                                                                                My time is valuable, and I'm not going to waste anymore on this. And if someone wants to sue me, it will be very entertaining.

                                                                                Read the first post in this thread, do you accept or not? She accepts.

                                                                                Anything else is rehtoric. And unless you cannot give us a logical reason why you cannot provide referral stats, you should do so.

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                                                                                • TSmutcash
                                                                                  Registered User
                                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                                  • 47

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  This is the deal, I got an email from her clients who said that they loved our program
                                                                                  and want to continue to send us sales.
                                                                                  They told me that they would take care of Melissa D,,

                                                                                  Actually Im going to pay her 10% on the sales to date. And I will email the client that I do not want there sales anymore..

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                                                                                  • MelissaD
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • May 2001
                                                                                    • 155

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Stats Tyler Stats!

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                                                                                    • Techie Media
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                                      • 3092

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Lensman, I think Smutcash is doing a rehtorical side step dance. They are not willing to offer the stats to clear this up??.....I'am thinking I smell a fish... and it's a nasty smelling fish at that...??

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                                                                                      • 12clicks
                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                                                        • 19816

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        lets go back to the old thread, this one is going no where.
                                                                                        I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                        • TSmutcash
                                                                                          Registered User
                                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                                          • 47

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Ok you guys tell me this,,
                                                                                          Should I give this info out to her ??

                                                                                          If she is close with ther clients then they should give this info to her..

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                                                                                          • boneprone
                                                                                            Hall Of Fame
                                                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                                                            • 34415

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            This is worse than a boneprone soap oprea.

                                                                                            Im going crazy.

                                                                                            Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones
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                                                                                            Learn about it kids.

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                                                                                            • Lensman
                                                                                              GFY Chaperone
                                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                                              • 9846

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Agreed, I can smell the horseshit from here.

                                                                                              Davies, on the other hand, is starting to smell like a Rose.

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                                                                                              • MelissaD
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • May 2001
                                                                                                • 155

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by MelissaD:
                                                                                                Again Tyler I did come to you and work out a deal - excuse me I came to Klient and worked out a deal, the only thing that wasn't settled was if it was $5 per or 10%.

                                                                                                I sent my clients to you, with my affiliate id, they entered, manually, some programs have the special link some don't. I send out lots of care packages as I'm willing to spend my time energy and effort to help other webmasters, especially newbies who don't have the resources to hire me straight out. Traffic brokering is only part of what I do.

                                                                                                Again more excuses Tyler as to why you won't give me the totals.... I have yet to get an answer on that.

                                                                                                So Lensmen Tyler has given you his answer.


                                                                                                Tyler try actually reading part.. STATS!!!


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                                                                                                Melissa Davies
                                                                                                [email protected]
                                                                                                www.BillinGuru.com
                                                                                                954 856-3071 mobile
                                                                                                954 227-0926 office
                                                                                                954 827-0335 fax
                                                                                                15566387 ICQ

                                                                                                Nobody is better than me!!

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                                                                                                • MrCockTale
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                                                  • 669

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by TSmutcash:
                                                                                                  If she is close with ther clients then they should give this info to her..
                                                                                                  why the fuck can't you just give the total stats to her.

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                                                                                                  • Lensman
                                                                                                    GFY Chaperone
                                                                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                                                                    • 9846

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by TSmutcash:
                                                                                                    [B]Ok you guys tell me this,,
                                                                                                    Should I give this info out to her ??
                                                                                                    B]
                                                                                                    AGAIN: I haven't heard of any major referral programs that don't give you basic referral data. You may not get names and addresses, but you get account #'s.

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