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  • Slick
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2001
    • 7338

    #1

    Nex Cash's NEW Payout & English ONLY Traffic

    What do you think about the new policy how they increased their payouts, but only pay for English traffic. It just took effect last night and I'm not too happy with it so far.

    The thing is that they are offering a .005 increase in pay, BUT with the loss of counted traffic that's NOT English, it knocks you down in clicks, so you get the lower bracket of pay, so you're getting paid the same, but losing clicks.

    Now don't get me wrong here, I think that NexCash is a GREAT sponsor, I love them and I don't mean this to be a bash on them. I just wanted to see what the rest of you are making with the new setup.

    The thing is that with this new policy, I think that many of us are gonna lose some money here. If they're ONLY paying for ENGLSH traffic, then perhaps they should raise the payout to 5 cents.

    I guess that on the positive side, they do redirect non-english traffic to the address of your choice, so that's pretty good of them. I guess that I can just kick that to another one of my sites or something becaue if it's non-English traffic, there'd be no sense to send it to a per signup sponsor.

    What do you think ???
  • ElvisManson
    Looking California
    • Feb 2001
    • 5476

    #2
    How specifically are they able to break down the originating location of the non-english traffic?

    WE have sites that are in Japanese, Korean and German.

    I'm sure there are other spomsors with non-english sites.

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    • Theo
      HAL 9000
      • May 2001
      • 34515

      #3
      according to NEXCASH the english traffic comes from the settings of your browser and not from the language of the site you promote their program.

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      • Wizzo
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        • Nov 2000
        • 15224

        #4
        I think it's fair, why would they want to buy traffic that can't read their site?
        If you we're buying customers, you would want to at least be able to pitch them, right?

        That's why most click-thrus, even AP, has a strict rule about foreign text. The smallest ammount implies that some of your visitors can't read english, therefore it's worthless to a english site and you won't get paid.
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        • Theo
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          • May 2001
          • 34515

          #5
          yes, but for example i have english as primary lang and Greek as 2nd. Nexcash considers me just greek traffic although I know english, i study in english and use my credit card more often than the average American. My partner, has 4 different langs on his browser, because he speaks and writes in 4 different langs. I can assure you that every single Greek net surfer speaks and writes in English, but for sure they don't use their cards so often like Americans.

          If webmaster X has a site in English and let's say German surfers that click on Nexacash links, is it ok according to Nexcash rules? I don't think so. My point is that most of the sponsors target customers only from the states and I think it's a wrong policy. I don't have the experience for running a sponsor program, perhaps I would have done the same in order to feel more secure.

          [This message has been edited by Soul_Rebel (edited 06-08-2001).]

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          • Theo
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            • May 2001
            • 34515

            #6
            Did I mention that Slovenia now has it's own adult sponsor in their native language? It might be the first drop before rain :-)

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            • Gemini
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              • Jan 2001
              • 7183

              #7
              We knew this was coming. Nothing you can do; so not much to discuss. Mainstreams went first and now the adult will drop down too.
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              • McSpike
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                • May 2001
                • 1042

                #8
                Well it's clear to me that Americans don't have a clue about how many foreign people speaks English and they are throwing bags of money right in to the garbage! Well too bad for them ) Maybe they should all visit Europe and learn something new! No one in US understands an European person but every European person understands an American very well... And because Americans think as they do (I won't go deep in to this as I might start a war here) they are forgetting about foreign markets who speak and write english almost like it is their native. I live in a country with 2 million people population (I bet almost no one of you Americans ever heard of it) and were learning English for 8 fucking years here, we watch primarily ONLY English movies so your sales pitches work on us as much as on any American horndog!

                There's 400 million internert population and only 160 million are US and Canada together so all of you who only see that Nort piece of land over there are forgetting on about 230 million surfers! Well GREAT - more money for me on the table!

                Well there are smarter sponsors out there than NC so I care for NC as much as for the last year snow.

                NC, goog luck - you are gonna need it and also every other short-sighted webmaster out there.

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                • McSpike
                  Confirmed User
                  • May 2001
                  • 1042

                  #9
                  Do you think we didn't use W3.11 (back then) just because it wasn't translated in our language? Do you think our kids don't know how to play games written in English? Our lives are sourrounded with English all the fucking time. ALOT of Europenas surf English sites and they don't have their browsers set to English because they don't need to!!! They work just fine when set in their native language and they need it set like that so they work on their local sites. Ya some countries use a bit more characters than English-speaking ones! English uses only basic characters! And why do they browse english sites? I bet not because they don't understand shit!

                  This is too dumb to debate. Some just can't get out of their little caves and god help them when they will realize that their competition figured that out years ago!

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                  • Dirtypainter
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jan 2001
                    • 425

                    #10
                    well they way I read it. It doesn't say they are not to pay you for traffic from them non-english sites. What it does say is that if the browser is set for any other lang than english then they will redirect it to where you want. and in the acct info you just write in the url where you want the traffic to go.

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                    • wiZd0m
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                      • Rose
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                        • Jan 2001
                        • 1456

                        #12
                        Well I think it's their program and they set
                        the rules.
                        But if you dont like the rules you have the right not to send them any traffic...

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                        • Slick
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                          • Feb 2001
                          • 7338

                          #13
                          Well, I'm definately not complaining here. I think from their perspective, it's a highly logical step. And the fact that they're redirecting that non-English traffic to another URL, I guess that there isn't no harm done there.

                          The main point of this thread wasn't to flame NexCash because like i say, it's a good step for them to take because it's gonna insure their survival AND I DO think that they're a great sponsor. I just wanted to see how many, if any are noticing a cut in their money with the new pay system.

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                          • rhizome
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jan 2001
                            • 788

                            #14
                            As long as you have English as one of your languages in your browser settings (even if it's the tertiary language), Nex-cash will count so it will count all the traffic from Europeans that are surrounded by English (I'm asuming these Europeans would all have an English language plug-in)

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                            • McSpike
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                              • May 2001
                              • 1042

                              #15
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                                #16
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                                  #17
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                                  • oscer
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                                    • Jan 2001
                                    • 2834

                                    #18
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                                    • wiZd0m
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                                      • Steve
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Feb 2001
                                        • 6894

                                        #20
                                        I think it is a good policy. I don't believe they are trying to offend non-English webmasters. More like trying to maintain a click-thru program, which is very difficult. I expect to see more and more sponsors go with something like this.

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                                        • meshell
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Feb 2001
                                          • 155

                                          #21
                                          As a citizen of the world who does speak english probably better than she should, and has, for diff reasons, her entire computer set to work in english altho her first language is spanish and her second is french...I would have to say this is all very tricky. I think, altho I have no clue how, that there should be a better way to screen traffic so you can pay for the traffic that can read your site. BUT browser settings are not the most effective way in my opinion. For example, in Mexico, you buy a puter, it comes with all settings, browser and software in spanish. That says absolutely nothing about the user behind it. I know hundreds of people with the power to use a credit card online, who would be rejected by this system automatically. A good percentage of the spanish speaking population speak and use english everyday, eventhough their first language is spanish...why should you lose the possibility of them spending their money on your site is beyond me. Maybe there is no better way to do this? Truth is, most surfers of the entire world do speak english or try to learn it simply because if you don't the internet and business opportunities become somewhat limited
                                          I really don't know if NC's new policy is based on only browser settings, well, maybe it is not the best solution but that is just me thinking aloud
                                          I use NC as a sponsor and I have no complaints specially if they are nice enough to redirect my traffic to any site I chose
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                                            • Lust
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                                              • May 2001
                                              • 209

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Rose:
                                              Well I think it's their program and they set
                                              the rules.
                                              But if you dont like the rules you have the right not to send them any traffic...
                                              Absolutely right....
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                                              • Robert
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                                                • Feb 2001
                                                • 533

                                                #24
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                                                • XP
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Mar 2001
                                                  • 384

                                                  #25
                                                  all you're wrong!
                                                  Don't blame Nex-Cash!
                                                  Join4Free programs changed their terms. They don't accept no more non-english traffic. Thats why Nex-Cash changed his system too!

                                                  Nex-Cash has special deal with join4free programs, thats why you earn more, when you send traffic to nex-cash. Join4free shaves 10 times us, 1 times nex-cash, candidclicks
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                                                  • Theo
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                                                    • May 2001
                                                    • 34515

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by XP:
                                                    all you're wrong!
                                                    Don't blame Nex-Cash!
                                                    Join4Free programs changed their terms. They don't accept no more non-english traffic. Thats why Nex-Cash changed his system too!

                                                    Nex-Cash has special deal with join4free programs, thats why you earn more, when you send traffic to nex-cash. Join4free shaves 10 times us, 1 times nex-cash, candidclicks

                                                    True, the J4Free changes have impact on Nexcash, but I dont think J4F shaves anyone. At least I have logic ratio all the time. It varies from 1:5 to 1:10, not that bad.

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                                                    • Theo
                                                      HAL 9000
                                                      • May 2001
                                                      • 34515

                                                      #27
                                                      but according to the new Join4Free TOS:
                                                      Join4free.Com / WEG Inc. will not credit webmasters for any traffic where the ip address is traced to the following countries: Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Bahrain, Belarus, China, Colombia, Cuba, Dominican Republic, Estonia, Egypt, Croatia, Hungary, Indonesia, Israel, Jordan, Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan, Lithuania, Latvia, Libyan Arab Jamahiriya, Morocco, Macedonia (The Former Yugoslav Republic of), Malaysia, Nepal, Pakistan, Poland, Romania, Russian Federation, Slovenia, Turkey, Ukraine, Uruguay, Yugoslavia, and Zimbabwe.


                                                      Which means Greek traffic is counted and gets credit! This means that the cancelation of Nexcash on my account is not valid any more! At least the reason! LOL Well, they lost me as a webmaster, I don't lost them as a sponsor. That's for sure :-)

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                                                      • candidpublishinginc
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                                                        • Feb 2001
                                                        • 707

                                                        #28
                                                        Just so everyone knows, if you are a foreign webmasters that is in a country blocked by Candid Clicks, we'll accept you as long as your nex-cash account is in good standing.

                                                        We understand that many of you were impacted by nex-cash's decision to not accept non-english traffic, so we want to do our best to offer a good alternative for everyone.

                                                        We have no plans at this time to block non English traffic, a blind link program should be able to take the good with the bad. As long as your site is written 100% in English, we'll accept it.

                                                        In addition, we will be adding more niche sites very shortly.

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                                                        • Lust
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                                                          • May 2001
                                                          • 209

                                                          #29
                                                          Candidpublishinginc,
                                                          Why you don't accept webmasters from Russia?

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                                                          • Slick
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Feb 2001
                                                            • 7338

                                                            #30
                                                            Thanks Candid, I might have to check into ya. In a way, I think that if they're getting rid of non-English traffic, then the traffic that they're getting should be MUCH higher quality, so it should be worth more than .005 more. Sure, they do forward your non-English traffic to another site, BUT what good is it gonna do ya because it can't convert anything, so you have to dump it to another one of your free sites to hope to get some clicks on your links to work up in the referrers ranks on another site. I think that they should pay for the traffic as a whole like they were.

                                                            One way to look at it is like this. Hopefully you guys can follow me on this. If you go to the store and buy a $10 box of assorted chocolates, you're gonna have a few good pieces in there and some that you don't like. Well, what Nex Cash is doing with this it pulling out all of the good pieces and leaving you with the shitty pieces, so you're stuck with a few pieces that you just end up throwing away because you can't eat them because you don't like them.

                                                            However, if you went to a chocolate store and picked out individual chocolates, you'd pay $20 and have a FULL box of chocolates that you like.

                                                            That's what I'm saying here. If you're gonna weed out and pay for the highest quality traffic, then it should be worth a lot more.

                                                            Sure, they increased they're payout by .005 cents, BUT when you lose a few clicks because it's non-English, you fall back into a smaller payout bracket, so you're getting the SAME amount of money, but are losing the clicks, which in turn cuts your pay.

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                                                            • candidpublishinginc
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Feb 2001
                                                              • 707

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Lust:
                                                              Candidpublishinginc,
                                                              Why you don't accept webmasters from Russia?

                                                              Because of the high % of cheaters from Russia and other countries on our ban list.

                                                              However, if you are a nex-cash user or have references from other reputable sponsors, we'll let you in.

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                                                              • candidpublishinginc
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                                                                • Feb 2001
                                                                • 707

                                                                #32
                                                                Oh and Slick,

                                                                I totally agree with you. nex-cash is turning shit to gold with their non english filter. This is simply not the proper way to run a blind link program.

                                                                Also, they switched all their niches from j4f to 4freebucks, so the excuse of j4f blocking some traffic doesn't really fly.

                                                                We're doing fine with our current business model, and we have no intentions of changing it.

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                                                                • playa
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                                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                                  • 6432

                                                                  #33
                                                                  last time i heard everyone knows how to speak english,,,

                                                                  i betcha their is alot of non-english speaking webmasters on this board alone..

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                                                                  • spool
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                                                                    • Apr 2001
                                                                    • 105

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I would think it was a move in the right direction as it was mentioned earlier that this would insure there survival, which inturn for a marginal down turn in my $ I still have a reliable and on time paying sponsor.

                                                                    One less worry or task for me as I can find other ways to improve my sales and sites. Would you not agree ?

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                                                                    • spool
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                                      • 105

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Sorry Slick, maybe I did not answer your question.... yes I have noticed a 5% drop a small price to pay for peace of mind to a degree, what non english link would you send them to ? I currently use another site I have, but is that a good idea ?? I was thinking a email collection page maybe the go ?
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                                                                      • Slick
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Feb 2001
                                                                        • 7338

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Spool, I could only wish that ONLY 5% of my traffic was Non-English, I'm sure that's a rarity, he he he. I know that I wouldn't be complaining if I only had a 5% cut.

                                                                        We're talking around a 25-35% cut here for me. I don't know if I just got a bigger batch of foreign traffic here this week or what, but that's a pretty significant cut there.

                                                                        What are the rest of your %'s of non-english traffic ??? or is it just me ??

                                                                        [This message has been edited by Slick (edited 06-10-2001).]

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                                                                        • candidpublishinginc
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                                                                          • Feb 2001
                                                                          • 707

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Slick:
                                                                          Spool, I could only wish that ONLY 5% of my traffic was Non-English, I'm sure that's a rarity, he he he. I know that I wouldn't be complaining if I only had a 5% cut.

                                                                          We're talking around a 25-35% cut here for me. I don't know if I just got a bigger batch of foreign traffic here this week or what, but that's a pretty significant cut there.

                                                                          What are the rest of your %'s of non-english traffic ??? or is it just me ??

                                                                          [This message has been edited by Slick (edited 06-10-2001).]
                                                                          Slick,

                                                                          Based on what webmasters said to me, it doesn't seem like you're the only one. It seems like a lot of webmasters had their traffic cut by 25% to 50%.

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                                                                          • spool
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                                                                            • Apr 2001
                                                                            • 105

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Hi slick I suppose it is also to early to get an good figure. The last 2 days stats are down further than 5% but not yet 25% I can see a southward movement. I suppose we may have to look at a 2, 4 week period at least.
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                                                                            • gigikent2000
                                                                              Registered User
                                                                              • May 2001
                                                                              • 28

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Ce pula mea vorbiti voi aici???
                                                                              Credeti ca nu stim engleza...?????!

                                                                              Why do the americans feel so superior and think that we, from other countries don't know how to speak and write english???
                                                                              This is bull-shit. NexCash was very nice to you because they blocked the traffic from non-english enabled browsers. J4F blocked traffic from ips. I think that will be NEXCASH's next step and you'll cry after that traffic.... So don't complain cause u don't have that many reasons to do it. If u don't like that swith to offshoreclicks!

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                                                                              • candidpublishinginc
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                                                                                • Feb 2001
                                                                                • 707

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by gigikent2000:
                                                                                Ce pula mea vorbiti voi aici???
                                                                                Credeti ca nu stim engleza...?????!

                                                                                Why do the americans feel so superior and think that we, from other countries don't know how to speak and write english???
                                                                                This is bull-shit. NexCash was very nice to you because they blocked the traffic from non-english enabled browsers. J4F blocked traffic from ips. I think that will be NEXCASH's next step and you'll cry after that traffic.... So don't complain cause u don't have that many reasons to do it. If u don't like that swith to offshoreclicks!

                                                                                nex-cash isn't even American They are from Canada. So don't blame us Americans for everything!

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                                                                                • candidpublishinginc
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                                                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                                                  • 707

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by gigikent2000:
                                                                                  Ce pula mea vorbiti voi aici???
                                                                                  Credeti ca nu stim engleza...?????!

                                                                                  Why do the americans feel so superior and think that we, from other countries don't know how to speak and write english???
                                                                                  This is bull-shit. NexCash was very nice to you because they blocked the traffic from non-english enabled browsers. J4F blocked traffic from ips. I think that will be NEXCASH's next step and you'll cry after that traffic.... So don't complain cause u don't have that many reasons to do it. If u don't like that swith to offshoreclicks!

                                                                                  nex-cash isn't even American They are from Canada. So don't blame us Americans for everything!

                                                                                  Yes I do realize that Canada is in North America, but a lot of Canadians don't consider themselves Americans but rather Canadians.

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                                                                                  • Pete Dogg
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                                                                                    • Mar 2001
                                                                                    • 204

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    My percentage of non-english traffic according to nex-cash is 50%
                                                                                    So I'm making half as much as I used to.

                                                                                    They say they want to pay for only english traffic. I totally understand that, but they are going about it incorrectly.

                                                                                    If a computer is sold in Quebec, Canada or France. The language will be set to french (fr). But that computer won't need to change any setting at all to render english words.

                                                                                    Same thing goes for Spanish. If your computer is totally set up for spanish it will render english words fine. And your browser will show up as spanish language.

                                                                                    And Japanese, which I know well because we deal with it at work. If you are an english user trying to view Japanese you need to set your browser up properly inorder to see the japanese characters.
                                                                                    But if you are a Japanese user you don't have to do shit in order to see english words properly. That's because all the Japanese fonts have english characters included in them.

                                                                                    So out of this "50% non-english traffic" probably 90% of that can read english fine, but there browser language is set to something else.

                                                                                    I think this is an unfair way to weed out traffic that is North American or British. And leave us with the harder to convert traffic.

                                                                                    Peace,
                                                                                    Pete Dogg



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                                                                                    • candidpublishinginc
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                                                                                      • Feb 2001
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      I agree 100% with you Pete.

                                                                                      Do what countless of other nexcash webmasters are doing, and join the Candid Team. We will not jerk you around in such a manner. A blind link program should accept the good and the bad.

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                                                                                      • wiZd0m
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                                                                                        • Feb 2001
                                                                                        • 1526

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        candid publishing inc, you are such an opportunist, lol, this is really funny, lol


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                                                                                        • Theo
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                                                                                          • May 2001
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          at least he is present :-)

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                                                                                          • boneprone
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                                                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                                                            • 34415

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            the industry is evolviong with re-directing technology for your foreign traffic.

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