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  • xwebdesigner
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    • May 2001
    • 54

    #1

    So whats up with everyone hating flash around here?

    I've noticed from past reading much hate towards flash with some of you. I understand from some point because you can make money off a 2 cent html job. But flash really makes your site come to life a nd with the right designer you can have one FAT web site.
    I believe the % of people with the flah pluggin is up around 90 these days.

    So hit me with your cons on this I'm interested in why you all hate flash so much.

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  • Dirtypainter
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    • Jan 2001
    • 425

    #2
    well there is many cons to it. like one good reason a really flashy flash file takes so long to down load on most dial ups so a surfer is gone before it even has a chance to sell a thing.

    and being a TGP reviewer I get sick and tired of that blasted pure fuck banner. sure its a attention getter but damn *L*

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    • SABAI
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      • Jan 2001
      • 2880

      #3
      flash is a good improvment but........fuck ......people just don't know how to use it in a good way.....i hate flash sites coz the people who make them think only about their "artistic creations " and not about the surfers.....

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      • xwebdesigner
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        • May 2001
        • 54

        #4
        Well I think most of you have experienced bad flash designers. Cause I good designer can make make a flash site load very fast, in most cases just as fast as old html.
        Not am I only talking about flash sites but even banners. I wonder how much money affiliate banners bring in for the adult industry. How long have these old html banners been used. I have even heard that banners where dead and text links where taking over. Now thats sad has any paysite attempted to offer a few flash banners to there webmaster?



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        • Rip
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          • Jan 2001
          • 1456

          #5
          If a site has a auto loading flash banner or display, I usually close the window, if there is no quick link to get out

          If you want to have something special for a surfer to load, and they have the option to see it or bypass it, fine

          An example, I have a fast cable connection

          I goto an adult related program, partnership, content site or whatever...
          all of a sudden a flash banner or intro is forced onto my browser from their main page, my browser hangs for a moment,
          I close the window,
          I go somewhere else
          ...

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          • Susan
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            • Feb 2001
            • 772

            #6
            When everyone has broadband and BW is 50c a GIG

            Otherwise death by flash still stands
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            • Badgurl
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              • May 2001
              • 161

              #7
              Flash is getting old and boring already...

              seen it, was impressed...okay..what's next..!

              I find it really amateurish looking too..

              Like, I'm some fucking pro graphics guru gurl...

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              • Bake
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                • Jan 2001
                • 5918

                #8
                Flash gives me a woody I like what you can make with such a small file size ,It's just not understood
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                • TheWatcher
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                  • May 2001
                  • 563

                  #9
                  Over 75% of porn surfers have slow dial-up computers. so you do the math.... There computer can't handle a flash page... heh

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                  • RedShoe
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                    • Feb 2001
                    • 14831

                    #10
                    You'll notice that xwebdesigner doesn't use flash at his site in his sig.
                    I wonder why?

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                    • UnseenWorld
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                      • May 2001
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                      #11
                      Why do I hate Flash? Hmmm. Let me see... How about because almost always when a Flash intro starts, I hate it. So, I hate it because I hate it.

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                      • Tucks
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                        • May 2001
                        • 105

                        #12
                        Why does flash blow? Glad you asked...

                        7. The novelty disappeared 2 years ago.
                        6. I hate regular splash screens, much less 60K flash ones.
                        5. Dumb-ass sounds that interrupt my mp3s. My bootlegged copy of "Yanni in Cleveland" doesn't need to be interrupted with Star Trek phaser noises.
                        4. Ever try printing a flash site?
                        3. I like my browser's back/forward buttons, thank you.
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                        1. Why can't I cut-and-paste?

                        There *may* be a use in the adult biz for flash banners where the traffic has already seen every other attempt to get them to a sponsor, but that's it.

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                        • xwebdesigner
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                          • May 2001
                          • 54

                          #13
                          RedShoe:

                          There is a bit of flash in my portfolio but I'm sure you didn't take the time to look.


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                          • Eric
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                            • Dec 2000
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                            #14
                            Flash maybe old. But look at what can be done with it. No this is not an adult site but impressive still. http://www.evil-islands.com/usa/

                            pick up the small icons on the bottom right and put them into the mouth at the left to navigate pages.

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                            • Rip
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jan 2001
                              • 1456

                              #15
                              Very impressive, and nice design

                              and maybe that would be worth spending the money on for content inside a pay site

                              but click the buy-now link

                              see any flash there?

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                              • sweetjimmy
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                                • Jan 2001
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                                #16
                                i hate flash

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                                • Steve
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                                  • Feb 2001
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                                  #17
                                  Topic: So whats up with everyone hating flash around here?

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                                  • UnseenWorld
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                                    • May 2001
                                    • 5279

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Eric_aka_RedEyes:
                                    Flash maybe old. But look at what can be done with it. No this is not an adult site but impressive still. http://www.evil-islands.com/usa/

                                    pick up the small icons on the bottom right and put them into the mouth at the left to navigate pages.

                                    Out
                                    Eric_aka_RedEyes

                                    First of all, I don't go to a site to see a poorly-rendered bat followed by "LOADING." And as for the feature of dragging and dropping the icons at the bottom into the gaping maw, I wouldn't even have known about that if you hadn't told me.

                                    People hate Flash because it generally is a waste of their time.


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                                    • SABAI
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                                      • Jan 2001
                                      • 2880

                                      #19
                                      that is the word...WASTE OF TIME...

                                      loading...please wate while loading....
                                      not mentioning the endless intros with no" skip intro" button

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                                      • TheWatcher
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                                        • May 2001
                                        • 563

                                        #20
                                        Flash Is made for HighEnd internet access and big moniters... Flash is an amusment! =o) not a sales tactic

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                                        • xwebdesigner
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                                          • May 2001
                                          • 54

                                          #21
                                          Dialker king has some flash http://www.dialerking.com/page2.html

                                          Please wait while loading?? LOL


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                                          • kuwawawah
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                                            • Apr 2001
                                            • 348

                                            #22
                                            making swish banner is pretty cool and quick, but update a flash tgp might be more time consuming.

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                                            • Paul Markham
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                                              • Jun 2001
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                                              #23
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