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  • Lensman
    GFY Chaperone
    • Jan 2001
    • 9846

    #1

    Now they're attacking the filtering software

    http://msn.zdnet.com/msn/zdnet/story...25ab%2C00.html
  • HQ
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2001
    • 3539

    #2
    yup, it's ridiculous.

    listen to this suggested fix:

    Separate the porn from the prosaic. One proposal is to create a top-level domain, like .xxx, to house adult sites. It would be easy to filter these sites out and they could be given a "safe harbor" in such a domain where they would be free from potential prosecution. Sites not in this domain would be subject to legal hassles and would risk being filtered out at the ISP level. One way to enforce this: No credit card transactions for adult sites that fail to comply.
    can you imagine if we all had to give up our .com's?!

    i hope to hell that not too much regulation ever hits the internet.

    the software should just work better, how about that for a fix?!


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    • sKiTz
      Confirmed User
      • Jan 2001
      • 244

      #3
      I think that filtering software in libraries is a FUCKED UP situation.

      PARENTS are the fucking irresponsible ones. Why should MY income be fucked with, because some fucking losers of parents are too fucking stupid to BE WITH THEIR KIDS when their kids are online???

      Parents today are SO fucking stupid, but they don't want to shoulder the responsiblity they gave themseves when they decided to throw some kids into the world, so they blame US for their own fucking ignorance.


      It's a fucking fuckity fuck fuck.

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      • sKiTz
        Confirmed User
        • Jan 2001
        • 244

        #4
        "Separate the porn from the prosaic. One proposal is to create a top-level domain, like .xxx, to house adult sites. "


        MUCH BETTER IDEA!!!

        New TLD for Kids Only ... call it

        .MyParentsAreTooFuckingIrresponsibleToKeepAFucking EyeOnWhatImDoing

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        • MrCockTale
          Confirmed User
          • Jan 2001
          • 669

          #5
          Also, I've read filtering software blocks
          a good of good content too....

          I don't see the point of filtering software
          anyway, parents can just watch their kids
          right? If they go on the street there's no
          filtering software for your kids to see
          drugsdealers either.
          BTW if kids are looking for subjects which
          are not porn-related or anything, I don't
          think there will be a lot of porn-related
          results right?

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          • Mrboogity
            Registered User
            • Feb 2001
            • 46

            #6
            geez, and i thought the "click here if you're 18" was enough...
            -Kevin

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            • sweetjimmy
              Banned
              • Jan 2001
              • 777

              #7
              Who are these people that pass these laws? Where's my vote?

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              • sweetjimmy
                Banned
                • Jan 2001
                • 777

                #8
                Skitz your always get defensive when something threatens your wallet. All you gotta do is roll with the punches and you'll come out even richer.

                Think about all those surfers. Every one of them would be overage and everyone of them would probably need a credit card to access the "adult" internet. That means $$$$$ ching ching, bling bling

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                • Gemini
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jan 2001
                  • 7183

                  #9
                  Ummmm my stepdaughter was looking for the spice girls when she was first learning how to search. And right in front of us popped up a porn site. We checked and sure enough they had the spice girls in their meta tags. Now should parents have to police sites or should that sort of stuff not be happening?? I mean if we have no ethics at all then we're trying to purvey porn to the kiddies. We can't fault parents for not being puter savvy enough to be able to outwit their kids who are trained on the things in school! Its up to us to handle the problem to a degree. Just like my gun store owner example in a previous post.
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                  • sairanx
                    Confirmed User
                    • Feb 2001
                    • 125

                    #10
                    if they just gave us one simple keyword or line we should ad to our pages to block minors everything would be fine, who want minors on their sites anyway? the havn't got a CC.

                    It saves us bandwith and they can produce thier filters.
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                    • Gemini
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jan 2001
                      • 7183

                      #11
                      We Agree. A meta with just XXX should be able to cover it. And puters with that built in the op system. But then all the filter software companies would whine. lol
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                      • sweetjimmy
                        Banned
                        • Jan 2001
                        • 777

                        #12
                        sorry about verbally assaulting you earlier gemini. just felt like venting some steam.

                        You're absolutely right about the spice girls thing. How can you leave your kids alone on a computer when if they put "britney spears" in the search box they end up getting porn?

                        I thought the internet would be useful for school when i first bought a computer. Was I wrong about that. Seems to be there's nothing educational on the internet because of copyrights. Take a look at the worlds entire E-library:
                        http://www.ul.cs.cmu.edu/webRoot/Boo...g_Etext_Books/

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                        • sKiTz
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jan 2001
                          • 244

                          #13
                          Gemini...

                          Filtering software in your HOME would have kept that from happening.


                          Filtering software in a library that I helped pay for with my tax dollars is called "cencorship."

                          SweetJimmy....

                          I don't make my living from porn I'm just a hobbiest.
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                          • sweetjimmy
                            Banned
                            • Jan 2001
                            • 777

                            #14
                            Skitz you know those filters don't work. There are a few billion pages on the net with thousands of new pages going up everyday.

                            Skitz please click on the box that says disable smilies in this post.

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                            • HQ
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jan 2001
                              • 3539

                              #15
                              the only problem with the XXX in the meta tag is that people won't do it.

                              for plenty reasons:

                              1) people won't know about it (newbie webmasters). sure there sites are small but they'll be getting a lot of search engine traffic if they're the only ones showing up! lots of traffic isnt' good for signups but it's good for traffic trading.
                              2) webmasters won't think it's good to block their sites against kids (for reasons stated above in #1, after all, why put spice girls in the meta tag?!)
                              3) etc. (more reasons but i made my point)



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                              • HQ
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jan 2001
                                • 3539

                                #16
                                Originally posted by HQ:
                                the only problem with the XXX in the meta tag is that people won't do it.

                                for plenty reasons:

                                1) people won't know about it (newbie webmasters). sure their sites are small but they'll be getting a lot of search engine traffic if they're the only ones showing up! lots of traffic isn't good for signups but it's good for traffic trading.
                                2) webmasters won't think it's good to block their sites against kids (for reasons stated above in #1, after all, why put spice girls in the meta tag?!)
                                3) etc. (more reasons but i made my point)

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                                • HQ
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jan 2001
                                  • 3539

                                  #17
                                  oops
                                  delete this and the previous msg please.

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                                  • Techie Media
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jan 2001
                                    • 3092

                                    #18
                                    Gemini, we had a similar thing happen to our kids. We have 2 boys 9&11, well the 11 yr old is a sports fanatic. Both kids have their own puters, and are very good, they each use front page and design small home pages for all their friends, Yes Mom and Dad help a little. Well anyway 3 weeks ago the 11 yr old was trying to get some info on football trivia, he went to a few search engines and typed in "Football" ...well in one of the results he got some Fetish Foot site.. He freaked out..This shit isnt right.

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                                    • Corpsie
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jan 2001
                                      • 474

                                      #19
                                      (reply to thing about losing .com in place of .XXX)

                                      I think it's a good idea that should START now. Basically, if you register a new adult site it should have an XXX domain.

                                      Current webmasters with .com 's will have their .xxx domain frozen by the registrar's and the registrar will freely change your extension to .xxx

                                      Of course there will have to be at least 6 months to a year to allow for transitions (e-mail addresses, SE listings, etc..)

                                      I think that there would be a way to make the transition without $$$ lost for webmasters.

                                      As for the META tag, ignorance is never an excuse. Again, it would need some transition time.

                                      <Meta warning="pornography">
                                      <meta warning="graphic sex">
                                      <meta warning="scat">

                                      If you're trying to objectify the subjective, you need to stop breathing.

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                                      • Bexman
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jan 2001
                                        • 105

                                        #20
                                        You know, skitz already said, the problem is, that parents wont take any responsibility no more... Of course, porn is something for adults, and children shouldn't see, but don't blame the filters, blame the parents !!! everytime a young boy or girl kills anybody, the parents and lawyers blame TV or Videogames. IN WHAT A FUCKED WORLD DO WE LIVE? If anyone decides to get children he or she should know, that they have to take much time for their children: take them out, play with them, educate them, AND WATCH THEM! How stupid one has to be, to think he could blame someone else for his educational failure??

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                                        • Burtman
                                          Registered User
                                          • Feb 2001
                                          • 484

                                          #21
                                          I think the point to be made is: why when I search for a Scooby Doo screen saver do I get caught in the porn loop of endless Teen Steam pop-ups with 5 kids under the age of 8 watching me.
                                          I read an article recently written by a mother that was complaining about how bad the SE's have become because of webmasters using this stuff in their tags. She was absolutely right and something should be done. If a kid types the word cunt in, then he or she is going to get cunt material but not if they type in Scoody Doo or Blue's Clues.

                                          Burtman

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                                          • Kat - Fast
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Feb 2001
                                            • 2303

                                            #22
                                            ya, sure blame A, blame B, you fuckin yanks will blame every1 if ya get a chance to sue!
                                            No one lets their kid wander around a big city by them selves, or into a rough 'hood. This is the Internet. Millions of fucked up ppl put up sites for their own fucked up reasons. The reason the internet is good is because it lets them do this - no more big brother censorship (it is illegal to show an erect penis in the UK, even though half the worlds population gets one! wtf?). While it's sad that some sites will do anything to get traffic, is it not sad that your fuckin nike trainers were made by an 8 yo in india?
                                            Or that by buying a BigMac (c)(r) you give money to the IRA to kill innocent kids?

                                            Parents are resposible for their children.
                                            Don't let kids play with guns/porn/traffic/drugs etc. All are available to them.

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                                            • magnatique
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jan 2001
                                              • 1830

                                              #23
                                              they cannot make us drop our .com... you know how many lawsuits they are going to get??

                                              thehun.com, playboy.com, sex.com, etc....

                                              ALL the big companies like CE, MC, CEN, SIC, prolly u lens.... I mean, watch all those lawsuits come out.... last few numbers I heard was 2.9millions/day that the porn was generating... droping .coms will surely make that drop... I don't think all of us will say... oh sure, go ahead

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                                              • ElvisManson
                                                Looking California
                                                • Feb 2001
                                                • 5476

                                                #24
                                                speaking of Sex.com
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                                                • Warphead
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                  • 994

                                                  #25
                                                  I've solved the whole problem already, just no one listens.

                                                  There needs to be a .kid domain, instead of filtering software browsers should have a "Kid Browser" built in that only allows websites that end in .kid - using the full-version browser would take a password.

                                                  All childrens sites would hop on it immediately. Any non-kid sites that used it could be fined heavily.

                                                  The internet isn't for children and it never was, despite what Dell and Gateway want you to believe. A tiny percentage of websites are free and educational, most are porn, shopping or advertising - all things that kids don't need to see.

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                                                  • Kat - Fast
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Feb 2001
                                                    • 2303

                                                    #26
                                                    Warp- nice idea! It works the same as real life - kiddie playgrounds, schools etc. We let kids go to where they are safe. When someone screws with their safety in those environs, they get in trouble with the law.
                                                    I like it.

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                                                    • Lush
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                      • 230

                                                      #27
                                                      I was just about to register for a new domain. I'm glad I read this.

                                                      But I don't see an option at registrars.com to register a .xxx

                                                      So what now?

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