ChinaCapital registered a domain owned by a local non-profit organization

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  • zerovic
    Confirmed User
    • Apr 2010
    • 1114

    #1

    ChinaCapital registered a domain owned by a local non-profit organization

    Hey guys, so here's the situation...

    A friend of mine owns a local dog rescue organization and they had a website on animasubotica.com

    The guy who previously owned the domain is abroad, and he couldn't renew the domain himself, so it went in the PendingDelete status. Of course, they were watching it's status from day to day, then suddenly, it was re-registered by a Chinese company this morning...

    What do you think, is there a way to get it back?

    Thanks in advance,
    z
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  • candyflip
    Carpe Visio
    • Jul 2002
    • 43073

    #2
    Buy it back. Someone else owns it now.

    Spend you some brain.
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    • onwebcam
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      • Oct 2005
      • 27689

      #3
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      • Barry-xlovecam
        It's 42
        • Jun 2010
        • 18083

        #4
        No, generally

        You don't own a domain you have a renewable leasehold. If you don't pay to renew --

        For 30 days after the expiration date the domain will be available for renewal during a grace period. After the 30 day grace period, the domain will enter a hold period known as the Redemption Period for another 30 days. To recover the domain during the Redemption Period the registry requires a $150 USD fee.
        Do they have a registered or other claim of trademark -- a first use before the domain was lost
        If the Chinese buyer tries to sell it back for more than the registration fee -- take that domain into UDRP if you think you can meet the 3 tests to prevail -- this arbitration will cost $2,000+

        Using ICANN's UDRP: Analysis

        So, if the extortion is $500 it is cheaper to pay for it's return
        Do not contact them let them contact you. This way you preserve your UDRP claim ;)

        You also might be able to go into civil court and make an in rem case against the domain name as property -- seize the domain with a default loss you the Defendant --see a licensed lawyer on that one

        Not offered as legal advice

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        • DVTimes
          xxx
          • Jun 2003
          • 31650

          #5
          Probably easier to just think up a new domain name.
          XXX

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          • woj
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            • Jul 2002
            • 47880

            #6
            Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
            No, generally

            You don't own a domain you have a renewable leasehold. If you don't pay to renew --



            Do they have a registered or other claim of trademark -- a first use before the domain was lost
            If the Chinese buyer tries to sell it back for more than the registration fee -- take that domain into UDRP if you think you can meet the 3 tests to prevail -- this arbitration will cost $2,000+

            Using ICANN's UDRP: Analysis

            So, if the extortion is $500 it is cheaper to pay for it's return
            Do not contact them let them contact you. This way you preserve your UDRP claim ;)

            You also might be able to go into civil court and make an in rem case against the domain name as property -- seize the domain with a default loss you the Defendant --see a licensed lawyer on that one

            Not offered as legal advice
            yea, $2k UDRP arbitration for a worthless domain...

            his best bet is to write up some sob story, and pray the domainer is in a good mood and sells it back for $100... otherwise, like poster above said, get a new domain name...
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            • DVTimes
              xxx
              • Jun 2003
              • 31650

              #7
              Originally posted by woj
              yea, $2k UDRP arbitration for a worthless domain...

              his best bet is to write up some sob story, and pray the domainer is in a good mood and sells it back for $100... otherwise, like poster above said, get a new domain name...
              Yes

              But the fact that he did not re-new the domain means the site was down for some time, so I conclude he was not realy using the site.

              The other reason why I would opt for a new domain is that animasubotica, may be misread anyway, as in 'animal sub erotica', or just 'animal erotica'. Then again that may be just me.

              But tell him to get a new domain name and have it on auto re-new.
              XXX

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