Did you turn Blackhat in 2015

**Nicky** · 12-13-2015, 01:46 PM

A lot have turned asshat the last couple of years...

**MakeMeGrrrrowl** · 12-13-2015, 01:49 PM

Nope. I just try to stay clean all around. Why? Cause I'm not here for a quick fix, I'm here for quality.

**$money$** · 12-13-2015, 01:51 PM

What's the definiton of BlackHat ?

**sarettah** · 12-13-2015, 02:02 PM

Ooops. Had to edit that out. I read the title as "Did you turn black in 2015" and the op as being Ferguson.

Totally different discussion.

Nevermind

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**SilentKnight** · 12-13-2015, 02:17 PM

I prefer not to spend my time looking over my shoulder or wondering why there's a car parked across the street from my house.

**bns666** · 12-13-2015, 02:20 PM

:rolleyes

**j3rkules** · 12-13-2015, 02:51 PM

Originally posted by Nicky

A lot have turned asshat the last couple of years...

**NakedWomenTime** · 12-13-2015, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by Ferus

Several of my customers did. How about you? will you wait until 2016?

In mainstream and offline bussiness, everything is blackhat anyways, so why stay clean?

No I didn't, how about you? Why are you thinking about this?

**NatalieK** · 12-13-2015, 04:09 PM

Originally posted by Ferus

Several of my customers did. How about you? will you wait until 2016?

In mainstream and offline bussiness, everything is blackhat anyways, so why stay clean?

I'll always run an honest business

**just a punk** · 12-13-2015, 04:19 PM

Originally posted by Ferus

Several of my customers did. How about you? will you wait until 2016?

In mainstream and offline bussiness, everything is blackhat anyways, so why stay clean?

What do you mean on blackhat? Do your customers crack other sites to set up mail spammers and doorways? Do they glue the competition domains, use dirty tricks to get them out of business (e.g. to get their domains blocked and host services cancelled) etc? Everything else is not a blackhat. All those cloakers etc are grayhat techs.

**ErectMedia** · 12-13-2015, 06:57 PM

Originally posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl

Nope. I just try to stay clean all around. Why? Cause I'm not here for a quick fix, I'm here for quality.

+1

**incredibleworkethic** · 12-13-2015, 07:49 PM

I actually am running a tight ship and it's paying off now

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**Best-In-BC** · 12-13-2015, 07:52 PM

Originally posted by SilentKnight

I prefer not to spend my time looking over my shoulder or wondering why there's a car parked across the street from my house.

**ManuteBol** · 12-13-2015, 07:55 PM

Originally posted by Nicky

A lot have turned asshat the last couple of years...

Huge % here turned asshat in mid 2006 and 2008.

**Ferus** · 12-13-2015, 10:50 PM

Originally posted by CyberSEO

What do you mean on blackhat? Do your customers crack other sites to set up mail spammers and doorways? Do they glue the competition domains, use dirty tricks to get them out of business (e.g. to get their domains blocked and host services cancelled) etc? Everything else is not a blackhat. All those cloakers etc are grayhat techs.

I see my customers (hosting and infrastructure) do this:
- Buy fake ratings in review sites
- Buy/use fake Social Network profiles
- Spend 90% of their SEO budget on their own sites, and 10% on hurting the competition
- Blackhat SEO

**Ferus** · 12-14-2015, 01:00 AM

BTW - where did SmokeyTheBear go?

**Lykos** · 12-14-2015, 02:30 AM

I choose to stay clean and don't look back at my shoulders

**just a punk** · 12-14-2015, 03:30 AM

Originally posted by Ferus

I see my customers (hosting and infrastructure) do this:
- Buy fake ratings in review sites
- Buy/use fake Social Network profiles
- Spend 90% of their SEO budget on their own sites, and 10% on hurting the competition

I'd say it's a whitehat nowadays

Originally posted by Ferus

- Blackhat SEO

That's what I asked in my post above. What do you mean on Blackhat SEO? Do they crack other sites to set their doorways there? How could you know your customers are doing that?

P.S. I have a few thousand of customers and I have no single idea what they are doing. Actually I don't care, because it's their business, not mine. My business is to maintain the scripts and provide a tech support.

**candyflip** · 12-14-2015, 06:29 AM

Originally posted by Ferus

BTW - where did SmokeyTheBear go?

Just saw his name in an old thread and clicked. He hasn't been here since 2012.

**BoomBoomBenoit** · 12-14-2015, 10:20 AM

When I'm pitching a client, I'll propose whitehat. It's the best long term play and has the highest ROI. Blackhat will get you there faster, but whitehat will cost your business less

**Best-In-BC** · 12-14-2015, 11:44 AM

Originally posted by ManuteBol

Huge % here turned asshat in mid 2006 and 2008.

Hell yes!

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