Have your credits/chargebacks gone nuts with AFF? - GoFuckYourself.com

Mr Pheer · 02-05-2009, 04:05 AM

If you send to AFF's percentage program, check your chargebacks and credits for november, december, and january. Post in here if they tripled in december, and then almost doubled again in january.

I've always done 5 figures monthly with AFF, but when chargebacks & credits are now 4 figures monthly, we have a problem.

When chargebacks/credits are more than my member bonus for sending over 14k joins last month, we have a real fucking problem

SteveHardeman · 02-05-2009, 05:47 AM

I don't promote dating but it's my understanding that site is full of fake profiles so I would think it's just a matter of time before we hear more stories like this.

Here's a bump for you though.

SomeCreep · 02-05-2009, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveHardeman

I don't promote dating but it's my understanding that site is full of fake profiles

That's every dating site.

Antonio · 02-05-2009, 06:00 AM

not for me but I'm not sending nowhere near the traffic you are, only had one month with a few hundred $$ in chargebacks, think it was Nov last year, since then it's been all good

kmanrox · 02-05-2009, 06:09 AM

nope, but we're 1:9000+ with them so.....

Antonio · 02-06-2009, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antonio

not for me but I'm not sending nowhere near the traffic you are, only had one month with a few hundred $$ in chargebacks, think it was Nov last year, since then it's been all good

and as soon as I posted this some juice ones appeared in my stats

PowerCum · 02-06-2009, 02:01 PM

Yes.

About $105k in sales and near $7k in chargebacks.

That's near 6.5% in chargebacks... not good. But I don't care much for now.

What really pisses me is that their flv player for tube sites doesn't support streaming, so there are more chances that I will change them only for that reason.

react · 02-06-2009, 04:51 PM

Interesting idea, thx.

I haven't pushed pct traffic to this account in ~18 months which really rules out this fake profile nonsense. And I'm pretty sure this isn't going to be AFF specific.

Here are my #s anyway:

Sep 1.26%
Oct 2.58%
Nov 6.76%
Dec 3.51%
Jan 5.85%

Ozarkz · 02-06-2009, 04:54 PM

I will never promote dating sites. They are indirectly stealing money from the gullible surfer.

Sosa · 02-06-2009, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ozarkz

I will never promote dating sites. They are indirectly stealing money from the gullible surfer.

lol whatever

Ozarkz · 02-06-2009, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sosa

lol whatever

Yup.

I make money promoting products that the surfer wants and delivers what they expect.

Slappin Fish · 02-06-2009, 05:05 PM

Just had a look. Nothing unusual very low percentage, just over 1%.

pocketkangaroo · 02-06-2009, 05:11 PM

Have you guys signed up for the site lately and tested? Might be worth doing. Maybe they are overcharging or adding on cross sales. I had a sponsor who had their chargebacks go up big time one month and I noticed they started dealing heavily in cross sales.

Despite a weak economy, chargebacks jumping that much is not natural. Something is causing it.

BradM · 02-06-2009, 05:19 PM

For a side company I run our chargebacks are up 3x since the "economy" is bad. People get more sympathy from visa/mc now and win more too. People are just learning how to get shit for free now and exploiting it. It's nuts.
Lots of others have confided the same with me also.

ChargebackJoe · 02-06-2009, 05:37 PM

All dating sites get major chargebacks, often months later when surfers smarten up.

HorseShit · 02-06-2009, 05:50 PM

I don't use AFF

WiredGuy · 02-06-2009, 06:00 PM

I noticed today in particular I had a lot of chargebacks to both PPS and revshare accounts. Definitely a lot higher than I was expecting. I don't even remember having many CB's on my revshare account but today I noticed a lot for January. It seems like they all hit today or something.
WG

Tjeezers · 02-07-2009, 08:17 AM

I got one chargeback of $ 1914.62 Cents slipping in my stats 2 days ago

I am stunned

WiredGuy · 02-07-2009, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sex2Have

I got one chargeback of $ 1914.62 Cents slipping in my stats 2 days ago

I am stunned

Wow, thats insane.
WG

seeandsee · 02-07-2009, 01:08 PM

i don't have problems

Tjeezers · 02-07-2009, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Wow, thats insane.
WG

Tell me, it completely crash my good mood for today.

KillerK · 02-07-2009, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

If you send to AFF's percentage program, check your chargebacks and credits for november, december, and january. Post in here if they tripled in december, and then almost doubled again in january.

I've always done 5 figures monthly with AFF, but when chargebacks & credits are now 4 figures monthly, we have a problem.

When chargebacks/credits are more than my member bonus for sending over 14k joins last month, we have a real fucking problem

Wow, well it doesn't surprise me given that the company who runs it, ruined iBill.

Mr Pheer · 02-07-2009, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerK

Wow, well it doesn't surprise me given that the company who runs it, ruined iBill.

Can you give details on this?

wheat · 02-07-2009, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sex2Have

I got one chargeback of $ 1914.62 Cents slipping in my stats 2 days ago

I am stunned

That's an absurd amount of money to chargeback, I'd be asking questions about that.

Tjeezers · 02-07-2009, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by wheat

That's an absurd amount of money to chargeback, I'd be asking questions about that.

already dropped some off liners. I will wait till Monday

Ethersync · 02-07-2009, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sex2Have

I got one chargeback of $ 1914.62 Cents slipping in my stats 2 days ago

I am stunned

wtf

Iron Fist · 02-07-2009, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sex2Have

Tell me, it completely crash my good mood for today.

For today? Damn, that would have me crashing my good mood for a MONTH!

Tjeezers · 02-07-2009, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sharphead

For today? Damn, that would have me crashing my good mood for a MONTH!

That would affect my working mood. I`m used to unexpected dramas regarding my work. Nevertheless, i seen it yesterday 10 minutes before i crawled into my bed laying me down next to my girl, and i asked her to not use my card this week

she understood

Tjeezers · 02-07-2009, 09:23 PM

The blue line down, i hate to see it... nevertheless, financial crisis i think. People spend like a animal and charge back like an angel.

Doctor Dre · 02-07-2009, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep

That's every dating site.

Nah there are legit ones out there.

Ryan St. Germain · 02-07-2009, 09:54 PM

I joined their site because they have a bdsm lifestyle forum for people looking to model. I set my account to cancel at the end of the billing, and it would suddenly go back to auto renew every time I'd log out. That happened for 3 months straight, until I cancelled the card it was on. No one ever bothered to write me back when I wrote to them about it. I should have charged the whole thing back, but I waited for a response and then forgot about it.

dav3 · 02-07-2009, 10:01 PM

Times must be getting tough for AFF.

Tjeezers · 02-07-2009, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dav3

Times must be getting tough for AFF.

For more sponsors it is like that. They are no exception

JD · 02-08-2009, 02:41 AM

maybe now with ppl losing their jobs they're CB'ing multiple months worth of memberships :/ wouldn't surprise me 1 bit tbh

02-05-2009, 04:05 AM	#1
Mr Pheer I got bored here. Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 20,769	Have your credits/chargebacks gone nuts with AFF? If you send to AFF's percentage program, check your chargebacks and credits for november, december, and january. Post in here if they tripled in december, and then almost doubled again in january. I've always done 5 figures monthly with AFF, but when chargebacks & credits are now 4 figures monthly, we have a problem. When chargebacks/credits are more than my member bonus for sending over 14k joins last month, we have a real fucking problem

02-05-2009, 05:47 AM	#2
SteveHardeman Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,728	I don't promote dating but it's my understanding that site is full of fake profiles so I would think it's just a matter of time before we hear more stories like this. Here's a bump for you though. __________________ BrokeAmateurs And ErosPOV And GirlsGoingSolo And PureAshley Sign Up At AmateursConvert.com Questions? I-C-Q: 3Five1FiveFive3476

02-05-2009, 06:09 AM	#5
kmanrox aka K-Man Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Gutter Posts: 29,290	nope, but we're 1:9000+ with them so..... __________________ Crypto HODLr Crypto mining Angel investor

02-06-2009, 02:01 PM	#7
PowerCum CjOverkill Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Woldwide Posts: 1,328	Yes. About $105k in sales and near $7k in chargebacks. That's near 6.5% in chargebacks... not good. But I don't care much for now. What really pisses me is that their flv player for tube sites doesn't support streaming, so there are more chances that I will change them only for that reason. __________________ CjOverkill Traffic Trading Script Free, secure and fast traffic trading script. Get your copy now

02-06-2009, 04:51 PM	#8
react Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NZ Posts: 673	Interesting idea, thx. I haven't pushed pct traffic to this account in ~18 months which really rules out this fake profile nonsense. And I'm pretty sure this isn't going to be AFF specific. Here are my #s anyway: Sep 1.26% Oct 2.58% Nov 6.76% Dec 3.51% Jan 5.85% __________________ -- react Last edited by react; 02-06-2009 at 04:53 PM.. Reason: pct not pps

02-05-2009, 06:00 AM	#4
Antonio Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Spartaaaaaaaaa Posts: 14,136	not for me but I'm not sending nowhere near the traffic you are, only had one month with a few hundred $$ in chargebacks, think it was Nov last year, since then it's been all good

02-06-2009, 04:54 PM	#9
Ozarkz So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,377	I will never promote dating sites. They are indirectly stealing money from the gullible surfer.

02-06-2009, 05:05 PM	#12
Slappin Fish Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Thailand Posts: 2,512	Just had a look. Nothing unusual very low percentage, just over 1%.

02-06-2009, 05:11 PM	#13
pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	Have you guys signed up for the site lately and tested? Might be worth doing. Maybe they are overcharging or adding on cross sales. I had a sponsor who had their chargebacks go up big time one month and I noticed they started dealing heavily in cross sales. Despite a weak economy, chargebacks jumping that much is not natural. Something is causing it.

02-06-2009, 05:19 PM	#14
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	For a side company I run our chargebacks are up 3x since the "economy" is bad. People get more sympathy from visa/mc now and win more too. People are just learning how to get shit for free now and exploiting it. It's nuts. Lots of others have confided the same with me also.

02-06-2009, 05:37 PM	#15
ChargebackJoe Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 356	All dating sites get major chargebacks, often months later when surfers smarten up. __________________ Buy PPC Traffic

02-06-2009, 05:50 PM	#16
HorseShit Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 17,513	I don't use AFF

02-06-2009, 06:00 PM	#17
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,456	I noticed today in particular I had a lot of chargebacks to both PPS and revshare accounts. Definitely a lot higher than I was expecting. I don't even remember having many CB's on my revshare account but today I noticed a lot for January. It seems like they all hit today or something. WG __________________ I play with Google.

02-07-2009, 08:17 AM	#18
Tjeezers Webmaster Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: BP4L - NL/RO Posts: 16,556	I got one chargeback of $ 1914.62 Cents slipping in my stats 2 days ago I am stunned __________________ Enroll in the SWAG Affiliate Asian Live Cam Program and get 9 free quality linkbacks from my network! Wanna see how old school I am? Look at this! All my Cam Review Sites are here!

02-07-2009, 01:08 PM	#20
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02-07-2009, 09:23 PM	#29
Tjeezers Webmaster Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: BP4L - NL/RO Posts: 16,556	The blue line down, i hate to see it... nevertheless, financial crisis i think. People spend like a animal and charge back like an angel. __________________ Enroll in the SWAG Affiliate Asian Live Cam Program and get 9 free quality linkbacks from my network! Wanna see how old school I am? Look at this! All my Cam Review Sites are here!

02-07-2009, 09:54 PM	#31
Ryan St. Germain Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,269	I joined their site because they have a bdsm lifestyle forum for people looking to model. I set my account to cancel at the end of the billing, and it would suddenly go back to auto renew every time I'd log out. That happened for 3 months straight, until I cancelled the card it was on. No one ever bothered to write me back when I wrote to them about it. I should have charged the whole thing back, but I waited for a response and then forgot about it.

02-07-2009, 10:01 PM	#32
dav3 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 7,348	Times must be getting tough for AFF. __________________ Webmasters :: Juicy Ads :: ACWM :: Crak Revenue :: Money Tree

02-08-2009, 02:41 AM	#34
JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	maybe now with ppl losing their jobs they're CB'ing multiple months worth of memberships :/ wouldn't surprise me 1 bit tbh