Ito racist to keep illegal immigrants out

[Diomed]

Every country in the world should not even try to keep illegal immigrants out.

And if they do.. They can't use a racist wall because its distasteful and hurts feelings.

They have to use special people on the ground to keep the illegals out, because again anything else is racist.. and we all know racism = hurt feelings.

[astronaut x]

Originally Posted by Diomed

Every country in the world should not even try to keep illegal immigrants out.

And if they do.. They can't use a racist wall because its distasteful and hurts feelings.

They have to use special people on the ground to keep the illegals out, because again anything else is racist.. and we all know racism = hurt feelings.

If that's how your twisted mind comprehends things.

Half of all illegals come through legally and become illegal. The country imports foreign workers to fill jobs. Businesses hire illegals all the time. They are not just in the fields anymore. They are in factories now. They are in construction. A wall is not going to stop this.

A wall is not going to stop drugs. Drugs come straight through main border crossings. Drone delivery. Subs.

We need to spend money on technology. We need to review hiring practices.

Illegal immigration is a by product of American capitalism.

Good luck with your efforts though.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by astronaut x

If that's how your twisted mind comprehends things.

Half of all illegals come through legally and become illegal. The country imports foreign workers to fill jobs. Businesses hire illegals all the time. They are not just in the fields anymore. They are in factories now. They are in construction. A wall is not going to stop this.

A wall is not going to stop drugs. Drugs come straight through main border crossings. Drone delivery. Subs.

We need to spend money on technology. We need to review hiring practices.

Illegal immigration is a by product of American capitalism.

Good luck with your efforts though.

He knows these facts, all the fake nics do. They just want to post their hateful racist shit because they are full of hate and want to blame others for their failure in life.

Failures of the "superior race" blaming "inferior" people for the "superior" races failures.

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by astronaut x

If that's how your twisted mind comprehends things.

Half of all illegals come through legally and become illegal. The country imports foreign workers to fill jobs. Businesses hire illegals all the time. They are not just in the fields anymore. They are in factories now. They are in construction. A wall is not going to stop this.

A wall is not going to stop drugs. Drugs come straight through main border crossings. Drone delivery. Subs.

We need to spend money on technology. We need to review hiring practices.

Illegal immigration is a by product of American capitalism.

Good luck with your efforts though.

We are on track right now for 1,000,000 illegals apprehended crossing the border illegally this year. 1000s are arrested daily.

So... there's that undeniable fact which completely shatters the silly liberal narrative that it's a visa problem.

[beerptrol]

Alt right shit stains are still at it. Your fellow cultist are the only ones who believe your lies and bullshit!

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Diomed

Every country in the world should not even try to keep illegal immigrants out.

And if they do.. They can't use a racist wall because its distasteful and hurts feelings.

They have to use special people on the ground to keep the illegals out, because again anything else is racist.. and we all know racism = hurt feelings.

Quote the immigration laws that say a certain race can't immigrate. Or just keep repeating your own stupidity.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by astronaut x

If that's how your twisted mind comprehends things.

Half of all illegals come through legally and become illegal. The country imports foreign workers to fill jobs. Businesses hire illegals all the time. They are not just in the fields anymore. They are in factories now. They are in construction. A wall is not going to stop this.

A wall is not going to stop drugs. Drugs come straight through main border crossings. Drone delivery. Subs.

So don't bother to build a wall, stop or deport illegals come through legally and become illegal, stop illegal drugs coming into the country, etc. Because no one measure will stop it all.

Great logic. For a five year old.

We need to spend money on technology. We need to review hiring practices.

Illegal immigration is a by product of American capitalism.

Good luck with your efforts though.

But what happens when someone finds away around those measures, do you abandon them or come up with new ones?

A law that throws employers and landlords into jail and forces them to pay fines that pay for the costs would be great. But do you really believe corporate America will allow that?

[astronaut x]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

So don't bother to build a wall, stop or deport illegals come through legally and become illegal, stop illegal drugs coming into the country, etc. Because no one measure will stop it all.

I sure as fuck am not saying don't bother to stop or deport. But, from everything I here from Reps and Dems, nobody has an answer that is actually going to fix a damn thing. As far as border security goes, I am ALL for beefing up the border where needed. However, I fully beleive that a physical wall, as much as they are asking for , and for the price... is not the answer. We need drones, sensors, man power. The levels of people crossing illegally are going down. We don't need walls where people are not coming across.

So you are trying to make the case for the wall or no?

You said it yourself, NO ONE ANSWER WILL STOP IT ALL. And it sure as fuck is not going to be a wall. I'll get back to that in a sec. However, that wall is going to cost 5 to 10 times more than what he is even asking for. The money is going to go into mostly Mexican companies like Cemex. It is not going stimulate our economy.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Great logic. For a five year old.

Oh man. How about stop thinking like a dumb neanderthal? In my mind, you are the one thinking like a 5 year old. The logic that a wall is going to curb illegals is exactly what I would expect from someone with very little experience in solutions. There is a reason the wall plays well in the minds of republican voters. It's the same mentality that got us in trouble in Iraq. Was going into Iraq the smartest solution? I think we all know the answer to that and the result of that mistake. The wall is going to cost us. Not just now, but well into the future. It is NOT going to be effective enough for the price. Our money would be better spent on things that are actually going to make difference and at a lesser cost.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

But what happens when someone finds away around those measures, do you abandon them or come up with new ones?

How ironic you would say that. Because I can ask you the same thing. With the difference, in that people already know of ways to get around, over, or under the wall.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

A law that throws employers and landlords into jail and forces them to pay fines that pay for the costs would be great. But do you really believe corporate America will allow that?

NO. Corporate America will not allow that, and neither would consumers when prices start to go up.

The wall is nothing but a facade. American Capitalism loves illegal immigration. There have already been businesses that have complained to the government that they need work visas for foriegn workers. About a year ago, Trump had denied tens of thousands of work visas, and some companies were hit hard. They complained, and Trump had to bring those work visas back. This is a shining example of the complexities of this issue. What it should ultimatly tell any rational thinking person, is that as long as there is American Capitalism, there is going to be illegal immigration and evaporation of good paying jobs for legally born Americans.

Thus making paying for the wall an even more senseless and mind numbing painful mistake.

[MFCT]

Since Trump has always been a puppet of Russia, as is alleged, then its Russia doing the racist stuff, not Trump. Trump would be innocent of all alleged racism.

You can't have it both ways. Trump is either a racist, or Trump is a puppet of Russia. So which side do you take?

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by astronaut x

I sure as fuck am not saying don't bother to stop or deport. But, from everything I here from Reps and Dems, nobody has an answer that is actually going to fix a damn thing. As far as border security goes, I am ALL for beefing up the border where needed. However, I fully beleive that a physical wall, as much as they are asking for , and for the price... is not the answer. We need drones, sensors, man power. The levels of people crossing illegally are going down. We don't need walls where people are not coming across.

So you are trying to make the case for the wall or no?

You said it yourself, NO ONE ANSWER WILL STOP IT ALL. And it sure as fuck is not going to be a wall. I'll get back to that in a sec. However, that wall is going to cost 5 to 10 times more than what he is even asking for. The money is going to go into mostly Mexican companies like Cemex. It is not going stimulate our economy.



Oh man. How about stop thinking like a dumb neanderthal? In my mind, you are the one thinking like a 5 year old. The logic that a wall is going to curb illegals is exactly what I would expect from someone with very little experience in solutions. There is a reason the wall plays well in the minds of republican voters. It's the same mentality that got us in trouble in Iraq. Was going into Iraq the smartest solution? I think we all know the answer to that and the result of that mistake. The wall is going to cost us. Not just now, but well into the future. It is NOT going to be effective enough for the price. Our money would be better spent on things that are actually going to make difference and at a lesser cost.

A Wall were it's needed will stop some illegal migrants and that's all I ever claimed it would do.

The cost would be savings in Welfare, crime, housing etc.

How ironic you would say that. Because I can ask you the same thing. With the difference, in that people already know of ways to get around, over, or under the wall.

Some will do and more effort can be used to detect those methods. Use of drones, electronic technology and others. Employing more people would cost a fortune and produce limited results.

NO. Corporate America will not allow that, and neither would consumers when prices start to go up.

The wall is nothing but a facade. American Capitalism loves illegal immigration. There have already been businesses that have complained to the government that they need work visas for foriegn workers. About a year ago, Trump had denied tens of thousands of work visas, and some companies were hit hard. They complained, and Trump had to bring those work visas back. This is a shining example of the complexities of this issue. What it should ultimatly tell any rational thinking person, is that as long as there is American Capitalism, there is going to be illegal immigration and evaporation of good paying jobs for legally born Americans.

There's the facade. Corporate America loves cheap labour, because it doesn't have to bear the crunch of falling wages, welfare, crime, social services, housing and the debt. Remember Corporate America and consumers were the main reason the West lost so many decent jobs. Don't quote unemployment figures without looking to the numbers who gave up looking for a job.

Thus making paying for the wall an even more senseless and mind numbing painful mistake.

But you are willing to send your country into spiralling debt, personal debt, increasing wage stagnation and dropping and the loss of the American dream.

Zero tolerance should be given to illegal immigrants. That means no driving licenses, SSN, education, healthcare, employment, accommodation, no one will overstay when their Visa expires if they have no where to live, job, or anything else.

https://www.newstatesman.com/politic...itions-british

It doesn't matter if it's Britain, Europe or America. Too many workers leads to lower wages and higher social costs.

[TampaToker]

Originally Posted by astronaut x

If that's how your twisted mind comprehends things.


A wall is not going to stop drugs. Drugs come straight through main border crossings. Drone delivery. Subs.

Actually you are wrong on that more then half the drugs in 2018 came in not at port of entry. Learned this watching Alexandria Ocasio Cortez own witness tell her that at a hearing lol

"numbers that I have from Customs and Border Protection for 2018 reflects the total weight of drugs at ports of entry in 2018 where's 432 thousand pounds of various drugs. Between ports of entry for the same time frame for 2018 467 thousand pounds in terms of total weight"