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Old 02-18-2019, 09:19 PM   #1
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16 states sue US traitor Donald Trump over national emergency BS

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47287738

No wall 4 you..
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Old 02-18-2019, 09:22 PM   #2
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My name is Crockett,

I have zero dealings in adult. I allegedly drive a truck for a living.. And I've spent over 10 hours on GFY this past 24.

I promise I'm not Bladewire.. Whatever you do, don't look at mine and his post history!
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LOL!! If people keep posting these ridiculous anti-American threads, I'll keep shooting down their bullshit.

Trump Is Using Obama’s National Emergency on International Cartels to Build the Border Wall

President Trump declared a State of Emergency at the US southern border on Friday.

Declaring the immigration crisis a national emergency was overdue.
Presidents have declared national emergencies for nearly 50 years.

Barack Obama declared 13 national emergencies, 11 of which continue to this day.
The Obama emergencies included the Swine Flu, Flint water crisis and Iran.

And Obama declared the Mexican drug cartels a national emergency in 2011.

Congress believes President Trump has $21 billion in unobligated military construction funding money available for the border wall with Mexico.

Now this was mostly ignored by the liberal media.
President Trump is using Barack Obama’s previous national emergency on Mexican drug cartels to get funding for the border wall.

As it turns out, back in 2011 then-President Barack Obama issued an executive order “blocking property of transnational criminal organizations organizations.” Obama cited his authority as granted through the Constitution to invoke the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, 50 U.S.C. 1701, and the National Emergencies Act, 50 U.S.C. 1601. The latter is the same legislation that Trump is citing to get funding for the wall to achieve his immigration reform goals. That executive order targeted a number of criminal organizations, including the Mexican Los Zetas cartel, an ally of the MS-13 gang President Trump has regularly called out as a danger to Americans.

“Drugs, gangs and people — an invasion,” Trump said on Friday. “We have an invasion coming into this country.”

Trump all but thanked his predecessor on Friday.

“We may be using one of the national emergencies that [Obama] signed having to do with criminal cartels… it’s a very good national emergency… we’re going to be using parts of it,” he said.



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Old 02-18-2019, 09:42 PM   #5
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Useless.. He outplayed them. The only thing they can touch is the 1.4 billion Congress allotted. By the time he even gets to that money he'll already have spent billions building hundreds of miles
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My name is Diomed,

I get drunk on moonshine that my uncle/dad made and post batshit crazy on GFY while welching on bets.
Get your lies coordinated Astroturfer,

One day I'm Russian the next day I'm a hillbilly.

Really enjoyed your first ever GFY post btw.. Interesting introduction shill:

RedFreds GFY introduction post: https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-p...ing-drugs.html

And look who's in it?

Bladewire
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Gee.. That's strange.
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Interesting introduction shill:

RedFreds GFY introduction post: https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-p...ing-drugs.html

And look who's in it?

Bladewire
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Gee.. That's strange.
^^ Note that he joined in Feb 2016- Just in time to shill for the primary elections! What a coincidence!

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Old 02-18-2019, 10:14 PM   #8
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Get your lies coordinated Astroturfer,

One day I'm Russian the next day I'm a hillbilly.

Really enjoyed your first ever GFY post btw.. Interesting introduction shill:

RedFreds GFY introduction post: https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-p...ing-drugs.html

And look who's in it?

Bladewire
Crockett
Beerptrol

Gee.. That's strange.

Wow, Sasquatch figured out how to use the search....congrats! Bet your mommy is proud of your accomplishments.

BTW redneck welcher boy, never said you were Russian, that would be Asspimp.
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Zero problems buying any drug you want in Australia, in fact most of the worlds major busts recently have been.. Australia bound.

So if a 3500 mile of water wall don't stop them you have to fucking kidding yourself that a fence will. Sure the small time dealers will be out of a job, but the cartels just hit payday.

BTW a friend of mine just come back from the USA, loved the thc vape pens there, brought 5 back with him.. straight through USA customs and straight through Aussie customs. he was ignorant they were illegal, where as here oil is a class b drug and 5 caps would be a commercial supply, so certainly jail time.

Ignorance is bliss sometimes, done similar things myself in Europe.
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Everyone claims to be against illegal immigration. But what have consecutive governments delivered? Claims that illegal immigration has gone down, assumes they have an accurate figure and that it will stay down.

Trump made it a corner stone of his campaign and won. Stupid or/and arrogant Democrats promised more of the same. That lost them the election.

In Europe the same thing is happening. The Far Right see what the people want and promise to them.
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Russian loving alt right are out deflecting and trying to defend the Russian Gimp in the white house
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So you're saying that Obama is an alt-right Russian, since he issued an executive order against Mexican cartels?

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There is a case in the Texas courts that was started more than 10 years ago that is still in the courts today. So good luck with your eminent domain theft CHUMP it isn't going to happen
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How did Obama build all that fencing without taking from landowners?

https://www.economist.com/united-sta...-ten-years-ago
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I watched a bit on the new yesterday about this... This one woman has two houses on eight acres. It was the house she has lived in since she was two years old. If they built a fence, it would take up her little back yard.

Another man has been in a wheel chair for twenty years, and makes money by renting out trailers on the river bank. If they built a wall on his property he would lose his businesses because no one is going to want to rent a trailer next to a wall.

The states will sue saying this is not an emergency and then the homeowners will sue... This will be stuck in court until after Trump is voted out next year or is in prison.

But hey, so much winning...
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I watched a bit on the new yesterday about this... This one woman has two houses on eight acres. It was the house she has lived in since she was two years old. If they built a fence, it would take up her little back yard.

Another man has been in a wheel chair for twenty years, and makes money by renting out trailers on the river bank. If they built a wall on his property he would lose his businesses because no one is going to want to rent a trailer next to a wall.

The states will sue saying this is not an emergency and then the homeowners will sue... This will be stuck in court until after Trump is voted out next year or is in prison.

But hey, so much winning...

Oh look Rochard found 2 people opposed to the wall so we should lets tons of meth and criminal illegals to flow into the country.
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Oh look Rochard found 2 people opposed to the wall so we should lets tons of meth and criminal illegals to flow into the country.
It seems to be two families out of one thousand families.

They both said that in decades of living there they had never caught or seen anyone entering the country illegally, nor as Border Patrol ever caught anyone on their property.
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Oh look Rochard found 2 people opposed to the wall so we should lets tons of meth and criminal illegals to flow into the country.
^^^what if I told you the wall doesn't stop those things because 95% of those come in via legal ports of entry?
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LOL!! If people keep posting these ridiculous anti-American threads, I'll keep shooting down their bullshit.

Trump Is Using Obama’s National Emergency on International Cartels to Build the Border Wall

President Trump declared a State of Emergency at the US southern border on Friday.

Declaring the immigration crisis a national emergency was overdue.
Presidents have declared national emergencies for nearly 50 years.

Barack Obama declared 13 national emergencies, 11 of which continue to this day.
The Obama emergencies included the Swine Flu, Flint water crisis and Iran.

And Obama declared the Mexican drug cartels a national emergency in 2011.

Congress believes President Trump has $21 billion in unobligated military construction funding money available for the border wall with Mexico.

Now this was mostly ignored by the liberal media.
President Trump is using Barack Obama’s previous national emergency on Mexican drug cartels to get funding for the border wall.

As it turns out, back in 2011 then-President Barack Obama issued an executive order “blocking property of transnational criminal organizations organizations.” Obama cited his authority as granted through the Constitution to invoke the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, 50 U.S.C. 1701, and the National Emergencies Act, 50 U.S.C. 1601. The latter is the same legislation that Trump is citing to get funding for the wall to achieve his immigration reform goals. That executive order targeted a number of criminal organizations, including the Mexican Los Zetas cartel, an ally of the MS-13 gang President Trump has regularly called out as a danger to Americans.

“Drugs, gangs and people — an invasion,” Trump said on Friday. “We have an invasion coming into this country.”

Trump all but thanked his predecessor on Friday.

“We may be using one of the national emergencies that [Obama] signed having to do with criminal cartels… it’s a very good national emergency… we’re going to be using parts of it,” he said.



Idiot.... is educated by memes..
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I'm just saying. If a ran a country where the drug epidemic was fed by legal ports of entry, and then I saw the legal ports of entry looked like this:



...so damn crowded it's impossible to stop the drug and illegal immigration flow, I'd probably work on that... instead of a wall that will make the ports even more crowded and even more impossible to maintain... And the flow of drugs and illegal immigration even harder to stop. That's all I'm saying.

But a promise to the good and pures is a promise to the good and pures... No matter how retarded it is.
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I'm just saying. If a ran a country where the drug epidemic was fed by legal ports of entry, and then I saw the legal ports of entry looked like this:



...so damn crowded it's impossible to stop the drug and illegal immigrantion flow, I'd probably work on that... instead of a wall that will make the ports even more crowded and even more impossible to maintain. That's all I'm saying.
The problem is to say that drugs are only coming through the ports of entry because it's policed and it's not coming though open areas with no barricades or walls is silly.

Of course they are stopping it at these ports of entry because it's policed. Police all the open areas and you will catch it too.
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You would make sense, if 95% of it wasn't coming in through there.

A wall is like building a skyscraper to slow vehicle traffic. It makes no sense to a sane person. Only a cultist would be down with that...

Not actually stopping anything... And shutting shit down to do it... Trumpism. As we've seen with the Muslim ban... All Muslims banned except the ones who tore shit up over here.
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americans like drugs...that is why the market exists in the first place...it is not the drug dealers fault that americans like drugs...it is like blaming the spoon that it made you fat...

90% of your crime is because of a failed drug war...you do this to yourselves and then blame the spoon
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Dude, you couldn't shoot down a paper plane with a bazooka, especially not with the sources and links to bullshit stories you continue to use. Whatever gave you the idea that posting some random dude's tweet serves as a legitimate argument? I know you're trolling, but at least try harder. Or do you like sounding like a complete moron?
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So you're saying that Obama is an alt-right Russian, since he issued an executive order against Mexican cartels?

You have the debate skills of a mentally handicapped child... or a Trump supporter. Take your pick.
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You would make sense, if 95% of it wasn't coming in through there.

A wall is like building a skyscraper to slow vehicle traffic. It makes no sense to a sane person. Only a cultist would be down with that...

Not actually stopping anything... And shutting shit down to do it... Trumpism. As we've seen with the Muslim ban... All Muslims banned except the ones who tore shit up over here.
You would probably say the same thing if Israel was building a wall but now look how successful their wall is.

Of course the wall will not stop everyone. Hell it may only stop 5-10-20%, but even a small amount will be worth it.

A) it will save us money because illegals cost us hundreds of billions a year.

B) it will stop drugs and criminal illegals that come across and kill Americans.

And how to you explain all the politicians on both sides wanting a wall and now that Trump wants it they're against it.
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I watched a bit on the new yesterday about this... This one woman has two houses on eight acres. It was the house she has lived in since she was two years old. If they built a fence, it would take up her little back yard.

Another man has been in a wheel chair for twenty years, and makes money by renting out trailers on the river bank. If they built a wall on his property he would lose his businesses because no one is going to want to rent a trailer next to a wall.

The states will sue saying this is not an emergency and then the homeowners will sue... This will be stuck in court until after Trump is voted out next year or is in prison.

But hey, so much winning...

I saw that, very sad that people can be thrown out of their homes. Just because a Moron wants to build a vanity wall in an area that has seen few if any illegal immigrants cross the river.
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^^^what if I told you the wall doesn't stop those things because 95% of those come in via legal ports of entry?
How do they know the number of successful smugglers who don't get caught?

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You would make sense, if 95% of it wasn't coming in through there.

A wall is like building a skyscraper to slow vehicle traffic. It makes no sense to a sane person. Only a cultist would be down with that...
Israel built 2 walls, illegal immigration is down 99%.

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As we've seen with the Muslim ban... All Muslims banned except the ones who tore shit up over here.
Ok, that's false! There was never a "muslim ban." The travel restriction is based on a list of terror hotspots identified by Obama's DHS in 2015. It only affects 5% of the world's muslims. By the way, there are 16 countries that ban travel for Jewish people from Israel. Are you outraged by this as well? Will you be protesting at the embassies in DC?


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Idiot.... is educated by memes..
Is it false? If so, post proof. Thanks.
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Y'all keep championing Israel lol

Israel:

1: doesn't have the largest border on the planet (the ignored Canadian one illegals use more now)

2: is the size of New Jersey. America can't even get new Jersey right, imagine 2 giant ass borders.

As far as leftards and righards switching their opinion about a wall or fence or whatever, that's a tard problem. Not mine. I'm not a party puppet, I'm an independent thinker. So tard party shenanigans don't pertain to me.

Ignoring where 95% of drugs and illegals come from to expensively MAYBE stop 5% a little bit is logical on what planet?

None! The logical answer is good and pures in America are scared of browns because of #2040s lulz
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How did Obama build all that fencing without taking from landowners?

https://www.economist.com/united-sta...-ten-years-ago

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Old 02-20-2019, 03:50 AM   #33
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^^^what if I told you the wall doesn't stop those things because 95% of those come in via legal ports of entry?
What if that was bullshit?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.25dab8327b98
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Old 02-20-2019, 03:52 AM   #34
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You would make sense, if 95% of it wasn't coming in through there.

A wall is like building a skyscraper to slow vehicle traffic. It makes no sense to a sane person. Only a cultist would be down with that...

Not actually stopping anything... And shutting shit down to do it... Trumpism. As we've seen with the Muslim ban... All Muslims banned except the ones who tore shit up over here.
So your solution is to do nothing because nothing is 100% effective. At least it would empty the prisons.
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Old 02-20-2019, 03:54 AM   #35
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I saw that, very sad that people can be thrown out of their homes. Just because a Moron wants to build a vanity wall in an area that has seen few if any illegal immigrants cross the river.
So it's OK for Obama to throw people off their land, but wrong for Trump.
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Old 02-20-2019, 09:47 AM   #36
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So it's OK for Obama to throw people off their land, but wrong for Trump.
Why dont you show us where Obama threw people off their land to put up some fence.. You are just assuming he did because they put up some fence.

The facts are if it came down to that it would have taken years and it would've been all.over Fox news.

You are talking out of your ass, prove me wrong..
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Who said it was ok for anybody to do it? Lol

Redhats, especially foreign ones, seem to think everybody is a blind team follower like them.
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So your solution is to do nothing because nothing is 100% effective. At least it would empty the prisons.
Refer to post #20
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How did Obama build all that fencing without taking from landowners?

https://www.economist.com/united-sta...-ten-years-ago

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You dont seem to have very good reading and comprehension skills.. That was not Obama is was Bush..


In october 2006 George W. Bush signed the Secure Fence Act into law


Also you didnt read the title did you...


The big, beautiful border wall America built ten years ago
And why it did more harm than good
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It ain't tho

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