Now Trump Says He ‘Never Said’ Mexico Would Pay for the Wall LOL - GoFuckYourself.com

J. Falcon · 01-11-2019, 06:55 AM

Quote:

U.S. President Donald Trump is doubling down on claims that Mexico was paying for the proposed border wall between their two countries, saying he “never meant they’re going to write out a cheque.”

Trump reiterated his claim that Mexico is paying for the wall via the new, un-ratified Canada-U.S.-Mexico Trade Agreement (CUSMA) while speaking to reporters at the White House before visiting the Texas border town of McAllen on the 20th day of a partial government shutdown.

Trump has held out for $5.7 billion in partial wall funding during talks with congressional leaders to reopen the government. Democrats have held steadfast in their opposition to providing any money for a border wall.

Except he did say that, several times.

FACT CHECK: Mexico is not paying for the border wall, despite what Trump says

Rochard · 01-11-2019, 07:28 AM

Suckers fell for it too. As if Mexico was ever going to pay billions for a wall in the United States. My lord people are stupid.

J. Falcon · 01-11-2019, 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard

Suckers fell for it too. As if Mexico was ever going to pay billions for a wall in the United States. My lord people are stupid.

I check out several political debate forums and the Trump supporters are actually claiming they never took his words literally. They never believed Mexico would actually pay for the wall - although that's exactly what he said - but instead that the wall would be paid for indirectly by other means.

NoWhErE · 01-11-2019, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

I check out several political debate forums and the Trump supporters are actually claiming they never took his words literally. They never believed Mexico would actually pay for the wall - although that's exactly what he said - but instead that the wall would be paid for indirectly by other means.

But..but... NAFTA! or Tariffs!!

MaDalton · 01-11-2019, 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

I check out several political debate forums and the Trump supporters are actually claiming they never took his words literally. They never believed Mexico would actually pay for the wall - although that's exactly what he said - but instead that the wall would be paid for indirectly by other means.

it was even written on his campaign website - including which amounts they would have to send when - but it has been conveniently removed

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/pay-for-the-wall

in case someone has time for Wayback Machine etc

RedFred · 01-11-2019, 08:09 AM

Trump supporters were abused as kids, that's why they think this is normal.

crockett · 01-11-2019, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

I check out several political debate forums and the Trump supporters are actually claiming they never took his words literally. They never believed Mexico would actually pay for the wall - although that's exactly what he said - but instead that the wall would be paid for indirectly by other means.

They can't ever admit they were wrong and they lie to themselves to the point they believe they were never wrong. It's why they constantly have to move the goal posts, change the talking points then project onto others.

The sad part is I don't even think these guys realize they are doing it. They have mental flaws to where it all seems normal to them. It's why the same type of people are attracted to Trump and it's why it's always the exact same types of people supporting him. It's because they all have the same mental defects.

J. Falcon · 01-11-2019, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett

They can't ever admit they were wrong and they lie to themselves to the point they believe they were never wrong. It's why they constantly have to move the goal posts, change the talking points then project onto others.

The sad part is I don't even think these guys realize they are doing it. They have mental flaws to where it all seems normal to them. It's why the same type of people are attracted to Trump and it's why it's always the exact same types of people supporting him. It's because they all have the same mental defects.

I recently spoke to a buddy who I've known for years and is a hardcore religious type. Obviously, he voted for Trump and continues to support him, although he does admit that he lies a lot and acts a pompous fool. However, he said that he strongly agrees with Trump' policies.

He said something to me the other day that I've been pondering ever since. It was something along the lines of "I'd rather have a liar as president whose policies I agree with, than an honest politician whose policies I don't agree with."

NoWhErE · 01-11-2019, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

I recently spoke to a buddy who I've known for years and is a hardcore religious type. Obviously, he voted for Trump and continues to support him, although he does admit that he lies a lot and acts a pompous fool. However, he said that he strongly agrees with Trump' policies.

He said something to me the other day that I've been pondering ever since. It was something along the lines of "I'd rather have a liar as president whose policies I agree with, than an honest politician whose policies I don't agree with."

You started with: "he is a hardcore religious type" and that explains everything. To be hardcore religious, you have to possess a certain skill which is : the complete and utter lack of critical thinking.

To be able to completely ignore all arguments and to hold on to an ideology into which you were indoctrinated as a child requires absolute willpower to not put into question your own beliefs regardless of overwhelming evidence right in front of you.

Apply this to politics and you'll see how his quote makes sense.

MaDalton · 01-11-2019, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StefanG

it was even written on his campaign website - including which amounts they would have to send when - but it has been conveniently removed

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/pay-for-the-wall

in case someone has time for Wayback Machine etc

Actually someone else did

https://web.archive.org/web/20160409...y-for-the-wall

Quote:

It's an easy decision for Mexico: make a one-time payment of $5-10 billion to ensure that $24 billion continues to flow into their country year after year.

Bladewire · 01-11-2019, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StefanG

Actually someone else did

https://web.archive.org/web/20160409...y-for-the-wall

Bingo!

It's like shooting fish in a barrel with Trump

2MuchMark · 01-11-2019, 11:18 AM

Who is GFY's most hard-core Trump Supporter? Maybe we should ask him what he thinks about this.

Busty2 · 01-11-2019, 01:02 PM

The lies never stop flowing. Guinness book of Records will include Chump in 2019

Rochard · 01-11-2019, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

I check out several political debate forums and the Trump supporters are actually claiming they never took his words literally. They never believed Mexico would actually pay for the wall - although that's exactly what he said - but instead that the wall would be paid for indirectly by other means.

That doesn't even make sense. So we are going to pay for the wall out of our tax dollars, and private businesses will get the money from trade deals?

The money cannot come from US tax dollars. If Republicans want this wall they can start a Go Fund Me account and use that money to do whatever they want.

TheSquealer · 01-11-2019, 03:55 PM

RedFred · 01-11-2019, 03:56 PM

TheSquealer · 01-11-2019, 03:57 PM

TheSquealer · 01-11-2019, 03:59 PM

[IMG]

[/IMG]

TheSquealer · 01-11-2019, 04:01 PM

TheSquealer · 01-11-2019, 04:02 PM

Bladewire · 01-11-2019, 04:07 PM

When you block the alt-right hate fake nic troll you don't see it's shit posts. You see this:

Blocked alt-right hate fake nic troll response in 3... 2... 1...

It has no impulse control it's part of it's mental disability

TheSquealer · 01-11-2019, 04:12 PM

Bladewire · 01-11-2019, 04:17 PM

↑↑↑ I was right again

Bladewire · 01-11-2019, 04:18 PM

2MuchMark · 01-11-2019, 04:22 PM

2MuchMark · 01-11-2019, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Did she actually say that?

Bladewire · 01-11-2019, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Wow he's worked up a lot the last 2 years he's put on at least 60 lbs. Stroke out alert

Robbie · 01-11-2019, 04:58 PM

And here is what the media is NOT telling any of you. Trump said from the very beginning exactly what he was going to do. But the media is pretending it never happened to keep all of you sheep in line.

Let's go back THREE years...before Trump had won a single primary in the Republican race.

This is a story from August 2015 when candidate Trump explained HOW Mexico would pay for the wall:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...0QL0NN20150816

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump would increase fees on some Mexican visas and all border crossing cards as part of a broader plan to force Mexico to pay for a wall along the southern U.S. border.

U.S. Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump greets attendees at the Iowa State Fair during a campaign stop in Des Moines, Iowa, United States, August 15, 2015. REUTERS/Jim Young
Trump, the frontrunner in a crowded Republican field, has made immigration a central plank of his campaign. On NBC’s “Meet the Press,” he said he would deport all undocumented immigrants and rescind U.S. President Barack Obama’s executive orders on immigration.

The orders, if enacted, could protect as many as 5 million undocumented immigrants from deportation.

In a policy paper issued on Sunday, Trump said he would increase fees on temporary visas for Mexican chief executives, diplomats and North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) workers if Mexico does not agree to pay for the wall.

The NAFTA agreement of 1994 eliminated most tariff and other barriers to free trade and investment between the United States, Canada and Mexico. It permits the temporary cross-border movement of business travelers within the region.

Trump said he would also impound all remittance payments derived from illegal wages and increase fees at ports of entry from Mexico. Foreign aid cuts and tariffs would also be considered.

“The Mexican government has taken the United States to the cleaners,” he said. “They are responsible for this problem, and they must help pay to clean it up.”

Mexico’s foreign ministry declined to comment directly on Trump’s proposals but said in an emailed statement that Mexicans make a significant contribution to the United States economy, and that net migration between the two countries reached zero in 2012.

Trump began his campaign in June by saying Mexico is sending its criminals and rapists to the U.S. The comment sparked outrage from Hispanic civil rights groups and others.

In his new position paper, Trump said he would triple the number of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers and pay for the increase by eliminating tax credit payments to illegal immigrants.

He would also increase penalties for people who overstay their visas and end the policy of giving automatic citizenship to the children of illegal immigrants.

Applicants seeking to enter the U.S. would have to certify that they could pay for their own housing, healthcare and other needs, he said, and he would raise the bar for the admission of refugees and asylum-seekers.

Trump said he would also place the issuing of green cards to foreign workers on pause so employers would have to hire from the domestic pool of unemployed workers.

“This will help reverse women’s plummeting workplace participation rate, grow wages, and allow record immigration levels to subside to more moderate historical averages,” he said.

Bladewire · 01-11-2019, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

And here is what the media is NOT telling any of you. Trump said from the very beginning exactly what he was going to do. But the media is pretending it never happened to keep all of you sheep in line.

Let's go back THREE years...before Trump had won a single primary in the Republican race.

This is a story from August 2015 when candidate Trump explained HOW Mexico would pay for the wall:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...0QL0NN20150816

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump would increase fees on some Mexican visas and all border crossing cards as part of a broader plan to force Mexico to pay for a wall along the southern U.S. border.

U.S. Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump greets attendees at the Iowa State Fair during a campaign stop in Des Moines, Iowa, United States, August 15, 2015. REUTERS/Jim Young
Trump, the frontrunner in a crowded Republican field, has made immigration a central plank of his campaign. On NBC’s “Meet the Press,” he said he would deport all undocumented immigrants and rescind U.S. President Barack Obama’s executive orders on immigration.

The orders, if enacted, could protect as many as 5 million undocumented immigrants from deportation.

In a policy paper issued on Sunday, Trump said he would increase fees on temporary visas for Mexican chief executives, diplomats and North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) workers if Mexico does not agree to pay for the wall.

The NAFTA agreement of 1994 eliminated most tariff and other barriers to free trade and investment between the United States, Canada and Mexico. It permits the temporary cross-border movement of business travelers within the region.

Trump said he would also impound all remittance payments derived from illegal wages and increase fees at ports of entry from Mexico. Foreign aid cuts and tariffs would also be considered.

“The Mexican government has taken the United States to the cleaners,” he said. “They are responsible for this problem, and they must help pay to clean it up.”

Mexico’s foreign ministry declined to comment directly on Trump’s proposals but said in an emailed statement that Mexicans make a significant contribution to the United States economy, and that net migration between the two countries reached zero in 2012.

Trump began his campaign in June by saying Mexico is sending its criminals and rapists to the U.S. The comment sparked outrage from Hispanic civil rights groups and others.

In his new position paper, Trump said he would triple the number of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers and pay for the increase by eliminating tax credit payments to illegal immigrants.

He would also increase penalties for people who overstay their visas and end the policy of giving automatic citizenship to the children of illegal immigrants.

Applicants seeking to enter the U.S. would have to certify that they could pay for their own housing, healthcare and other needs, he said, and he would raise the bar for the admission of refugees and asylum-seekers.

Trump said he would also place the issuing of green cards to foreign workers on pause so employers would have to hire from the domestic pool of unemployed workers.

“This will help reverse women’s plummeting workplace participation rate, grow wages, and allow record immigration levels to subside to more moderate historical averages,” he said.

Trump didn't do any of those things listed in that article you pasted. Fail

Now he is holding America hostage so we pay for the wall.

Go-to his campaign website, he tells you right there what he'll do to get Mexico to pay for the wall.

https://web.archive.org/web/20160409...y-for-the-wall

"It's an easy decision for Mexico: make a one-time payment of $5-10 billion to ensure that $24 billion continues to flow into their country year after year."

Bladewire · 01-14-2019, 12:59 PM

And Robbie goes dark when proven wrong

directfiesta · 01-14-2019, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire

And Robbie goes dark when proven wrong

Hanging out with Vendzilla ... also on a quart of milk

thommy · 01-14-2019, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StefanG

it was even written on his campaign website - including which amounts they would have to send when - but it has been conveniently removed

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/pay-for-the-wall

in case someone has time for Wayback Machine etc

the web does not forget

here we go

https://web.archive.org/web/20160824...y-for-the-wall

and another deleted page

https://web.archive.org/web/20160824...gration-reform

Bladewire · 01-14-2019, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta

Hanging out with Vendzilla ... also on a quart of milk

Robbie · 01-15-2019, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta

Hanging out with Vendzilla ... also on a quart of milk

Sorry man. I didn't know you were waiting for me on GFY.

And I have Bladewire on "ignore" so I have no idea what he said or how he thinks he proved anyone wrong.
All he ever did was insult people while making no rational points at all. So he's on "ignore".

I see you didn't say anything that makes any sense either. Just your idea of a "clever" picture to be "funny" and pretend you might have a brain.

Well, I think you are a joke. You're definitely not a serious person if you are in any way wanting to hang with idiot trolls in conversation while offering no serious discussion points.

So...using my criteria: Are you actually in the industry? Nope.
Can you make me any money? Nope.
Are you worthless to me? Yep.

I now place you on "Ignore". Goodbye.

Bladewire · 01-15-2019, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

Sorry man. I didn't know you were waiting for me on GFY.

And I have Bladewire on "ignore" so I have no idea what he said or how he thinks he proved anyone wrong.
All he ever did was insult people while making no rational points at all. So he's on "ignore".

I see you didn't say anything that makes any sense either. Just your idea of a "clever" picture to be "funny" and pretend you might have a brain.

Well, I think you are a joke. You're definitely not a serious person if you are in any way wanting to hang with idiot trolls in conversation while offering no serious discussion points.

So...using my criteria: Are you actually in the industry? Nope.
Can you make me any money? Nope.
Are you worthless to me? Yep.

I now place you on "Ignore". Goodbye.

As I said before, Robbie puts people on ignore that prove him wrong and back him into a corner too often.

Robbie isn't a critical thinker, he's a follower & enabler. He's a yes man beta cuck that will defend anything said & done by his assigned Alpha (trump). He also reads everything posted by me

crockett · 01-15-2019, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

Sorry man. I didn't know you were waiting for me on GFY.

And I have Bladewire on "ignore" so I have no idea what he said or how he thinks he proved anyone wrong.
All he ever did was insult people while making no rational points at all. So he's on "ignore".

I see you didn't say anything that makes any sense either. Just your idea of a "clever" picture to be "funny" and pretend you might have a brain.

Well, I think you are a joke. You're definitely not a serious person if you are in any way wanting to hang with idiot trolls in conversation while offering no serious discussion points.

So...using my criteria: Are you actually in the industry? Nope.
Can you make me any money? Nope.
Are you worthless to me? Yep.

I now place you on "Ignore". Goodbye.

^^ Robbie the guy who pimps his wife out to other dudes talking about others not having brains and not being able to make money. Robbie's entire business revolves around pimping his wife for cash..

Bladewire · 01-15-2019, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett

^^ Robbie the guy who pimps his wife out to other dudes talking about others not having brains and not being able to make money. Robbie's entire business revolves around pimping his wife for cash..

.... and nobody's getting any younger

RedFred · 01-15-2019, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett

^^ Robbie the guy who pimps his wife out to other dudes talking about others not having brains and not being able to make money. Robbie's entire business revolves around pimping his wife for cash..

That's entirely 100% true.

But what else is one supposed to do when you're in your 50's and you still believe you're going to be a rock star?

BagOfDirtyAssholes · 01-15-2019, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Did she actually say that?

Of course she did. But I doubt that would change your opinion of her.

directfiesta · 01-15-2019, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BagOfDirtyAssholes

Of course she did. But I doubt that would change your opinion of her.

How about a link to the " of course she did " ....

This meme comes from here:
https://imgflip.com/i/29bzq1

here is a post on that same page :

Quote:

Natalie_vance5 ups, 1 reply
Of it is fake, oh well. The fact that is believable coming from her is what makes it funny.
Shes on some pills. Lol

Fake nicks posting Fake news ....

01-11-2019, 07:28 AM	#2
Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 70,243	Suckers fell for it too. As if Mexico was ever going to pay billions for a wall in the United States. My lord people are stupid. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

01-11-2019, 03:55 PM	#15
TheSquealer BANNED Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In Your Head Posts: 22,720	__________________ If you don't like that Elon Musk bought twitter,... just build your own and stop crying about it.

01-11-2019, 03:57 PM	#17
TheSquealer BANNED Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In Your Head Posts: 22,720	__________________ If you don't like that Elon Musk bought twitter,... just build your own and stop crying about it.

01-11-2019, 03:59 PM	#18
TheSquealer BANNED Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In Your Head Posts: 22,720	[IMG][/IMG] __________________ If you don't like that Elon Musk bought twitter,... just build your own and stop crying about it.

01-11-2019, 04:01 PM	#19
TheSquealer BANNED Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In Your Head Posts: 22,720	__________________ If you don't like that Elon Musk bought twitter,... just build your own and stop crying about it.

01-11-2019, 08:09 AM	#6
RedFred Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 9,782	Trump supporters were abused as kids, that's why they think this is normal.

01-11-2019, 11:18 AM	#12
2MuchMark Videochat Solutions Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 45,818	Who is GFY's most hard-core Trump Supporter? Maybe we should ask him what he thinks about this.

01-11-2019, 01:02 PM	#13
Busty2 Member since 1999 Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Off the Amalfi coast Posts: 7,202	The lies never stop flowing. Guinness book of Records will include Chump in 2019

01-11-2019, 03:56 PM	#16
RedFred Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 9,782

01-11-2019, 04:02 PM	#20
TheSquealer BANNED Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In Your Head Posts: 22,720	__________________ If you don't like that Elon Musk bought twitter,... just build your own and stop crying about it.

01-11-2019, 04:07 PM	#21
Bladewire StraightBro Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Monarch Beach, CA USA Posts: 56,232	When you block the alt-right hate fake nic troll you don't see it's shit posts. You see this: Blocked alt-right hate fake nic troll response in 3... 2... 1... It has no impulse control it's part of it's mental disability

01-11-2019, 04:12 PM	#22
TheSquealer BANNED Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In Your Head Posts: 22,720	__________________ If you don't like that Elon Musk bought twitter,... just build your own and stop crying about it.

01-11-2019, 04:17 PM	#23
Bladewire StraightBro Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Monarch Beach, CA USA Posts: 56,232	↑↑↑ I was right again __________________ Skype: CallTomNow

01-11-2019, 04:18 PM	#24
Bladewire StraightBro Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Monarch Beach, CA USA Posts: 56,232	__________________ Skype: CallTomNow

01-11-2019, 04:22 PM	#25
2MuchMark Videochat Solutions Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 45,818

01-11-2019, 04:58 PM	#28
Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,841	And here is what the media is NOT telling any of you. Trump said from the very beginning exactly what he was going to do. But the media is pretending it never happened to keep all of you sheep in line. Let's go back THREE years...before Trump had won a single primary in the Republican race. This is a story from August 2015 when candidate Trump explained HOW Mexico would pay for the wall: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...0QL0NN20150816 Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump would increase fees on some Mexican visas and all border crossing cards as part of a broader plan to force Mexico to pay for a wall along the southern U.S. border. U.S. Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump greets attendees at the Iowa State Fair during a campaign stop in Des Moines, Iowa, United States, August 15, 2015. REUTERS/Jim Young Trump, the frontrunner in a crowded Republican field, has made immigration a central plank of his campaign. On NBC’s “Meet the Press,” he said he would deport all undocumented immigrants and rescind U.S. President Barack Obama’s executive orders on immigration. The orders, if enacted, could protect as many as 5 million undocumented immigrants from deportation. In a policy paper issued on Sunday, Trump said he would increase fees on temporary visas for Mexican chief executives, diplomats and North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) workers if Mexico does not agree to pay for the wall. The NAFTA agreement of 1994 eliminated most tariff and other barriers to free trade and investment between the United States, Canada and Mexico. It permits the temporary cross-border movement of business travelers within the region. Trump said he would also impound all remittance payments derived from illegal wages and increase fees at ports of entry from Mexico. Foreign aid cuts and tariffs would also be considered. “The Mexican government has taken the United States to the cleaners,” he said. “They are responsible for this problem, and they must help pay to clean it up.” Mexico’s foreign ministry declined to comment directly on Trump’s proposals but said in an emailed statement that Mexicans make a significant contribution to the United States economy, and that net migration between the two countries reached zero in 2012. Trump began his campaign in June by saying Mexico is sending its criminals and rapists to the U.S. The comment sparked outrage from Hispanic civil rights groups and others. In his new position paper, Trump said he would triple the number of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers and pay for the increase by eliminating tax credit payments to illegal immigrants. He would also increase penalties for people who overstay their visas and end the policy of giving automatic citizenship to the children of illegal immigrants. Applicants seeking to enter the U.S. would have to certify that they could pay for their own housing, healthcare and other needs, he said, and he would raise the bar for the admission of refugees and asylum-seekers. Trump said he would also place the issuing of green cards to foreign workers on pause so employers would have to hire from the domestic pool of unemployed workers. “This will help reverse women’s plummeting workplace participation rate, grow wages, and allow record immigration levels to subside to more moderate historical averages,” he said. __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

01-14-2019, 12:59 PM	#30
Bladewire StraightBro Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Monarch Beach, CA USA Posts: 56,232	And Robbie goes dark when proven wrong __________________ Skype: CallTomNow