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Old 10-15-2018, 10:16 AM   #51
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The bottom line is that Warren lied about her heritage in order to use affirmative action policys to get into college and apply for jobs afterwards.
And in doing so, she would have bumped out an actual Native American looking for that same opportunity.

So Trump is called a piece of shit for calling her out on it...and she actually DID this and is considered a "hero".

Kinda like WikiLeaks showing that the Clinton campaign was breaking laws and was corrupt and fucking Bernie Sanders out of his chance at the nomination....and Trump gets investigated while Hillary is a "hero".

Backwards world we live in.
she was raised being told she was part indian and it was her heritage. there were no DNA tests when she applied to college nor were DNA tests required.
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The bottom line is that Warren lied about her heritage in order to use affirmative action policys to get into college and apply for jobs afterwards.
And again, pure bullshit and mis-representation.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-native-ameri/

And again, don't let the facts get in your way.

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I am so not taking a DNA test. My family history is "spotty" at best.

In short... My father was married in the early 1960s, had a daughter with his wife, then a week later had a son with another woman. This was "not allowed" in the 1960s. Four or five years later my mother met my father, had me, then died. Us three kids had no idea of any of this; It was completely hidden from us. My sister figured it out when she went to get her driver's license and discovered on her birth certificate her last name was Buss, which was changed a few years later when she was legally adapted by her step father. She had no idea the man she knew as her father wasn't in fact her father.

We've all met, although all three of us have never been together all at the same time. I don't speak to my sister much; She's become very religious after her fourth marriage. My brother and I get together once a year or once every other year, it's no big deal. It's kind of neat really.

But I don't want to do a DNA test only to discover everything we were told or everything we've discovered since is wrong. We also don't want any other brothers or sisters.
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According to the New York Times, the average white person in America has nearly double the amount of American Indian DNA (0.18%) as Elizabeth Warren (0.098%), who claims to be Cherokee.

The DNA test revealed that Elizabeth Warren is not 1/512 Native American, she’s 1/1,024. That’s 0.0009765625.

Most tribes require percentage of Native blood at least 1/16th to claim Native American heritage. Warren specifically claimed to be Cherokee; the DNA test did not prove this to be true.

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/25/s...ity-study.html
Your link does not even menti on Warren ... just more fake news from fake news maker .

This IS her actual DNA summary :

https://mk0elizabethwarh5ore.kinstac...eport_2018.pdf
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Old 10-15-2018, 10:21 AM   #55
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The bottom line is that Warren lied about her heritage in order to use affirmative action policys to get into college and apply for jobs afterwards.

Oh bullshit. Inform yourself


Warren herself didn’t trumpet this side of her family story. When applying to college and law school, records show that she either identified as white or declined to apply based on minority status.

The facts behind Elizabeth Warren, her claimed Native American ties and Trump's 'Pocahontas' insult
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why didn't you ask trump that when he made the bet, kemosabe?
He didn't ask Tonto !!!!
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And you know this how? Have you had a DNA test to prove it? Have you had your family tree traced by a qualified genealogist? I doubt it. You probably know that because it is the family history that your parents or uncles and aunts or other relatives have passed down to you and you believe it because you have no reason not to believe it. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

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Because she told me herself? She died around 30 years ago.. Lived until I think 103.. Because it's literally part of the history of the town my family founded? My Great grandfather literally traded a cow for her.... Her own story... Family still has 1000+ acres of settlement property.. Everything in town is named after us.. Even the liquor store.
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Old 10-15-2018, 10:29 AM   #58
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Your link does not even menti on Warren ... just more fake news from fake news maker .

This IS her actual DNA summary :

https://mk0elizabethwarh5ore.kinstac...eport_2018.pdf

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Conclusion. While the vast majority of the individual’s ancestry is European, the results strongly support
the existence of an unadmixed Native American ancestor in the individual’s pedigree, likely in the range
of 6-10 generations ago.
so she could easily be ~5% indian.
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In short... My father was married in the early 1960s, had a daughter with his wife, then a week later had a son with another woman. This was "not allowed" in the 1960s.
What do you mean was not allowed in the 1960s?
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Because she told me herself? Because it's literally part of the history of the town my family founded?
But you do not have scientific proof, do you? You accept it because it is what you have been told. It is part of you and you do not need to question it.

That is what personal history and family history is all about.

Warren was told by her family that she is part Cherokee and she had no more reason to doubt it than you do. And again, there is nothing wrong with being proud of your heritage no matter what it is.

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Gloria Wysong, a cousin, said that her mother told her that the family's heritage "was Delaware, but the Delaware and Cherokee merged together."

And David Herring, Warren’s brother, said he grew up hearing, "Your grandfather is part Delaware, a little bitty bit, way back, and your grandmother is part Cherokee."
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-native-ameri/
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But you do not have scientific proof, do you? You accept it because it is what you have been told. It is part of you and you do not need to question it.

That is what personal history and family history is all about.

Warren was told by her family that she is part Cherokee and she had no more reason to doubt it than you do. And again, there is nothing wrong with being proud of your heritage no matter what it is.



https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-native-ameri/
Up until about 15 years ago Pow wows were held on my mom's property. It's literal history.. Not "folk tale"
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If i take a DNA test and have 1/500th (you could get that if someone sneezed on you) possible African DNA, could I claim minority status?
As a matter of fact yes you can, according to crus law you're then part of a weak minority and it comes with the added bonus of treating others badly. If you want. The majority will protect and defend you no matter what...
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Because she told me herself? She died around 30 years ago.. Lived until I think 103.. Because it's literally part of the history of the town my family founded? My Great grandfather literally traded a cow for her.... Her own story

Your grandfather traded a cow for your grandmother? Fuck, no wonder you're so fucked up.


Do you post in the barter section of craigslist Will trade ape shit for a wimin?
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Your grandfather traded a cow for your grandmother? Fuck, no wonder you're so fucked up.
Yep, that's how it was done in those days.. Actually still gets done that way in many cultures don't ya know? Ever heard of dowry?
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Up until about 15 years ago Pow wows were held on my mom's property. It's literal history.. Not "folk tale"
It still is not scientific proof. Here they hold Pow Wows at one of the local community colleges. That does not mean that the college is a Native American college or that the land is tribal land.

I do NOT doubt you or your beliefs regarding your ancestry. That you think your personal proof is more important or reliable than someone else's personal proof is what I question.



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Warren specifically claimed to be Cherokee; the DNA test did not prove this to be true.
You have a serious problem with facts and the truth.

"I will give you a million dollars, to your favorite charity, paid for by Trump, if you take the test and it shows you’re an Indian,"

She proved it.

Now all you incel trolls are spinning lies like little bitches.

You have no dignity or self respect.

All the Trump supporters want to back out of a lost bet. Proof these people are all pieces shit and can't be trusted. What disgusting fuckups you are.
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a guy who claims to be worth $10B welching on a $1m bet is like the rest of us welching on a $1 bet.
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And again, pure bullshit and mis-representation.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-native-ameri/

And again, don't let the facts get in your way.

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Politifact?
Facts?
Those two things don't go together.
They are nothing more than a biased source of opinion that cherry picks want they want to see.

Warren repeatedly used the line that she was native American her whole life.

You would have to be blind if you can't look at her and plainly see she was LYING the entire time.
And why would she do that?
How would it benefit her to make that shit up?

Think about it...and don't let some reporter do your thinking for you and try to tell you something is a "fact" when it's only his analysis

The only FACT is that she lied about her heritage in order to get ahead.
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Politifact?
Facts?
Those two things don't go together.
They are nothing more than a biased source of opinion that cherry picks want they want to see.

Warren repeatedly used the line that she was native American her whole life.

You would have to be blind if you can't look at her and plainly see she was LYING the entire time.
And why would she do that?
How would it benefit her to make that shit up?

Think about it...and don't let some reporter do your thinking for you and try to tell you something is a "fact" when it's only his analysis

The only FACT is that she lied about her heritage in order to get ahead.
You lost the bet fair and square

Pay up!

Stop trying to weasle out of it

"I will give you a million dollars, to your favorite charity, paid for by Trump, if you take the test and it shows you’re an Indian"

She proved it.

Pay up loser!
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I'll bet you a dollar you're wrong! Lol!
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Yep, that's how it was done in those days.. Actually still gets done that way in many cultures don't ya know? Ever heard of dowry?
was the cow related ????

cousin, sister-in-law ... ???
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The only FACT is that she lied about her heritage in order to get ahead.
Prove it.

You will not be able to. I used politifact because it was available. The only ones saying she used it to get ahead are her opponents.

You state something is a fact but don't back it up with anything. I at least take the time to back up my claims.

https://www.factcheck.org/2017/12/el...s-controversy/
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“I never used it to get ahead,” she said in the Nov. 27 interview with Cooper. “I never used it to get into school. I never used it to get a job.”

We are not aware of anyone having proved anything different.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...r-what/257415/

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The best argument she's got in her defense is that, based on the public evidence so far, she doesn't appear to have used her claim of Native American ancestry to gain access to anything much more significant than a cookbook;

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nat...O0K/story.html

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In the most exhaustive review undertaken of Elizabeth Warren’s professional history, the Globe found clear evidence, in documents and interviews, that her claim to Native American ethnicity was never considered by the Harvard Law faculty, which voted resoundingly to hire her, or by those who hired her to four prior positions at other law schools. At every step of her remarkable rise in the legal profession, the people responsible for hiring her saw her as a white woman.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/har...ss-report-says

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Although critics have charged that Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., has advanced her career with a narrative that she is a distant descendant of Cherokee and Delaware tribes, Harvard University never considered her ethnicity when it hired her as a law professor, according to a report Saturday.

The Boston Globe reported interviews and documents showed that the issue was not considered by Harvard Law faculty when it considered her application in the 1990s.

The report also saw no consideration of her race when she applied to work at Rutgers, the University of Houston, the University of Texas or the University of Pennsylvania.
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was the cow related ????

cousin, sister-in-law ... ???



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What do you mean was not allowed in the 1960s?
I thought of you when I wrote that actually.

Having a child out of wedlock was taboo back then, not to mention having a child with your wife and then shortly after having a child with your girlfriend. Of course my father and his wife divorced.

My brother... His mother was "sent away" to have the kid "out of sight" and he was later adapted by his grandparents because it was improper for a single woman to have a child.
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According to the professionals, these tests are not very accurate. https://now.tufts.edu/articles/pulli...ancestry-tests
LOL! Typical.


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The thing is, she never claimed any more than that and she never, from all accounts, tried to use it to her advantage job wise.

Fearless leader mocked her and stated that he would give $1 million to a charity of her choice if she took the DNA test and it proved Native American ancestry.

She took the test and proved it and now he reneges and you are all ok with that.

That shows you have as little integrity as he does.




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Bang-on.


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You ignorant alt-right idiots think you know more than the professor of genetics at Stanford who administered the test

This was released today and explains Elizabeth Warren's heritage. Forward to 3:25 to see the genetic test results you stupid ignorant bitches.



Awesome video, thanks for sharing this.


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Or would you too dismiss it as 'junk science' simply because you don't enjoy the results it digs up on you?
Imagine what a certain GFY'er would say if a DNA test revealed he was 1/10000000th black lol!


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Trump is now denying he ever said he'd pay $1 million if Warren took a DNA test with results showing she's Native American.
What? President Donald Trump, lie to the American people? Impossible! He's such a top-notch stand-up guy...!

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The bottom line is that Warren lied about her heritage in order to use affirmative action policys to get into college and apply for jobs afterwards.
Sorry Robbie, whoever told you that was lying or misinformed.



(Warren changed her listed ethnicity to Native American in December 1989, nearly three years after she was hired as a white woman by the University of Pennsylvania Law School)

In September 2018, the Boston Globe published the results of an investigation over whether Warren was hired at Harvard because “had decided to self-identify as a Native American woman and Harvard saw a chance to diversify the law faculty.” The Globe concluded that:

"In the most exhaustive review undertaken of Elizabeth Warren’s professional history, the Globe found clear evidence, in documents and interviews, that her claim to Native American ethnicity was never considered by the Harvard Law faculty, which voted resoundingly to hire her, or by those who hired her to four prior positions at other law schools. At every step of her remarkable rise in the legal profession, the people responsible for hiring her saw her as a white woman.

The Globe examined hundreds of documents, many of them never before available, and reached out to all 52 of the law professors who are still living and were eligible to be in [on the decision]. Some are Warren’s allies. Others are not. Thirty-one agreed to talk to the Globe — including the law professor who was, at the time, in charge of recruiting minority faculty. Most said they were unaware of her claims to Native American heritage and all but one of the 31 said those claims were not discussed as part of her hire. One professor told the Globe he is unsure whether her heritage came up, but is certain that, if it did, it had no bearing on his vote on Warren’s appointment
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Sources:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nat...O0K/story.html

and

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/el...tive-american/
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I'll bet you a dollar you're wrong! Lol!
Ahahaha! Good one.
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Trump is now denying he ever said he'd pay $1 million if Warren took a DNA test with results showing she's Native American.

Trump denies offering $1 million for Warren DNA test, even though he did

"I didn't say that. You'd better read it again," Trump told reporters at the White House when asked about his $1 million offer.

During a campaign rally on July 5, Trump taunted Warren for her claims of Native American ancestry, a staple of his campaign stump speeches.

"I will give you a million dollars, to your favorite charity, paid for by Trump, if you take the test and it shows you’re an Indian," Trump said at the time. "I have a feeling she will say 'no.'"
but he also turns another curve.

how funny is the following:

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Asked after his Putin comments whether he thought Moscow meddled in the 2016 presidential election, Trump said he didn't think it was just Russia.

"They meddled. But I think China meddled, too. And I think other countries ..." Trump said. He added, "And I think, frankly, China is a bigger problem."
what a fucking comedy

nooooo it´s not ONLY russia´s fault that you have to stand me - it was the chinese
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"The DNA test revealed that Elizabeth Warren is not 1/512 Native American, she’s 1/1,024. That’s 0.0009765625."

The average American has double the amount of Native American DNA.

But Trump should pay the million dollars!

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Warren opened a can of worms with this. She would have been better off with everyone wondering if perhaps a great great grandparent was native.

Now everyone knows she is one one-thousandth native and Trump is going to hit her hard with that all the time.
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Democrats are desperate.

In the past week:

- Facebook bans hundreds of conservative groups.
- NPC memes getting removed from social media.
- 60 Minutes trying to stir up drama with Trump's interview.
- Warran "proves" she is native.

The blue wave is circling the toilet bowl.

In about three weeks reality will set in for leftists that America is very much PRO TRUMP and there isn't a damn thing they can do about it.
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A multi-billionaire welching on a bet where the proceeds go to charity.

Jtfc.
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10 generations ago she had a native american ancestor, LOL!!! She's just as fucking native american as I am black and I sunburn at 5pm on a cloudy day during the winter. 0.1% native american doesn't qualify you as shit. She's just as native american as everyone else in america.
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My shit probably has more indian DNA in it.

With as much dick as you take to the ass, I'm sure it's loaded with all types of cum and would over work any DNA test
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10 generations ago she had a native american ancestor, LOL!!! She's just as fucking native american as I am black and I sunburn at 5pm on a cloudy day during the winter. 0.1% native american doesn't qualify you as shit. She's just as native american as everyone else in america.
Trump said she was lying about her Native American heritage, she proved him wrong.

Very simple
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Republicans obsession with bloodlines, genetic superiority and supposed IQ reminds me a lot of another political party Germany once had.
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A multi-billionaire welching on a bet where the proceeds go to charity.

Jtfc.
He did the same when he said he would donate to charity. It wasn't until all the bad press that he finally caved in and donated. He can no longer use his Trump Foundation money.
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10 generations ago she had a native american ancestor, LOL!!! She's just as fucking native american as I am black and I sunburn at 5pm on a cloudy day during the winter. 0.1% native american doesn't qualify you as shit. She's just as native american as everyone else in america.
Her DNA summary suggests a range of 6-10 generations. Being realistic and expanding that fairly for inaccuracies, let's say by 2 gens, she could conceivably be only 4 generations from her Indian ancestor.
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Her DNA summary suggests a range of 6-10 generations. Being realistic and expanding that fairly for inaccuracies, let's say by 2 gens, she could conceivably be only 4 generations from her Indian ancestor.
Brother...that old shrew is as white as wonder bread. lol
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Republicans obsession with bloodlines, genetic superiority and supposed IQ reminds me a lot of another political party Germany once had.
They really are no different.


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Wow...check it out guys.
NBC news putting out a story saying that the test proves she is of "Native American Heritage".
Fucking Pocahantas and the fake news media.

She is not even close. But they back her up.

But if Trump says the "sky is blue" they will fact check him and say he is lying because it was actually light blue.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...erican-n920056
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Now Trump just changed his story doing a live press conference with Melania.

Now he says he was only offering the money if he could do the test himself.

Going back on a bet, the lowest of the low.
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she proved she is 1/1024
so trump should pony up and write a check for $900
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Wow...check it out guys.
NBC news putting out a story saying that the test proves she is of "Native American Heritage".
Fucking Pocahantas and the fake news media.

She is not even close. But they back her up.

But if Trump says the "sky is blue" they will fact check him and say he is lying because it was actually light blue.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...erican-n920056

If Trump said the sky was white you spend the day arguing it takes two parts aquamarine and one part white to make sky blue.
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I was watching the History Channel one day about Genghis Khan and it said that he fathered so many women with the women he raped across Asia and Europe that 1 in every 200 men have his DNA.

That means that many of us on this forum have that DNA in us.

Does that mean that we are of Mongolian "heritage"???

Fuck no.
1 in 200 men direct descendants of Genghis Khan - Gene Expression

Elizabeth Warren claimed to be "Native American" to take advantage of rules and policy's that help Native Americans through affirmative action.

As for Harvard University CLAIMING that they didn't do that...remember they got in a LOT of trouble in the past for doing shit (they were biased against Jews just a few years ago), and are in the news right now for being biased against Asians.
So I wouldn't trust them to tell the truth about this because it would be yet another embarrassment for them based on racial admittance guidelines.
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My shit probably has more indian DNA in it.

With as much dick as you take to the ass, I'm sure it's loaded with all types of cum and would over work any DNA test
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Brother...that old shrew is as white as wonder bread. lol
Ahahaha!
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This post isn’t going ti age well. she’s as white as white can be
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Unemployment numbers : False under Obama , True under Trump
Polls : False under Obama , True under Trump
Dow Jones : False under Obama , True under Trump
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so no surprise if you deny DNA test , that are used to condem prisonners to death or to exonorate them from death row ....

1/512 .... how about 5/100 ....

https://mk0elizabethwarh5ore.kinstac...eport_2018.pdf
I love his tweet about the Dow falling 1000 points should lead to impeachment of the president. He lies all the time about everything and no one cares.
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Wow...check it out guys.
NBC news putting out a story saying that the test proves she is of "Native American Heritage".
Fucking Pocahantas and the fake news media.

She is not even close. But they back her up.

But if Trump says the "sky is blue" they will fact check him and say he is lying because it was actually light blue.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...erican-n920056
Truth has no meaning on either side. We are now a Latin American type country. Just say whatever. No one cares. Spit on the flag, wrap yourself in it. Same difference. Huge deficit in his first year. No one cares. Coal and tax cuts for the rich and people think he is a god send. This is like so unreal 24/7.
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