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Old 06-25-2018, 07:57 AM   #1
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Adult Sites SEO – What Are You Doing Wrong?

There appears to be few real SEO education articles on GFY or they are outdated. Strange but this topic is definitely one of the most important subjects for any webmaster, adult or mainstream. This is the first installment in a series that I am planning to publish if there is enough interest.

ADULT SITES SEO – WHAT ARE YOU DOING WRONG?


If you are a newbie or even a more advanced webmaster, it is clear that some questions are repeated on a regular basis. The real problem with SEO is that there is seldom a legitimate answer to the ever-changing world of SEO. The reason behind this can be (in many cases) ignorance on the subject but withholding of important information also plays a part in the equation.
As we all know, search engine traffic is a holy grail for most websites. The adult industry is no different especially with limited options to promote sites compared to the mainstream. This means that most webmasters are trying to get their piece of the action while many businesses are completely dependent on traffic coming from the search engines.
This is fine as long as you are doing what SE algorithms are looking for but in reality, the biggest percentage of site owners are enjoying SE traffic by pure luck. Yes, luck, which means having no strategy, no planning, and no safe future. This is when real problems start. Having this approach to business can work for years but it can stop working overnight, literally. Many people reading this will remember the panic the morning they woke up and checked their stats, noticing that their sites were kicked out of SERPs (search engine results pages).
This article is created to introduce you to basic adult sites SEO and explain what many people are doing wrong. Please be aware that the entire SEO subject is pretty complex so many things won’t be explained in this text but are planned for future GFY educational articles.


WHAT IS SEO?
We all know what this abbreviation means but what is behind it? The answer is simple. SEO is the collection of mathematically precise rules that are universal and available to every single website owner in the world. There is no conspiracy, or magic involved, just pure knowledge and persistence.


WHO IS ELIGIBLE FOR SEO?
Maybe this sounds like a strange question but the SEO game is not for everyone. That is a reality. Much in the same way that higher education is not for the majority of people. SEO takes time, effort, patience and even money (if you want faster results). These time and economic factors are something most people don’t have or are not willing to invest.
In real life, there are different types of people around us. What we learned is that most webmasters are simply not meant to be successful with SEO. If this article seems long-winded and you are already getting nervous, then you are probably one of them. The reason is that there are no quick results. Most people will quit if they don’t see results in a month or even less. Sure, it is possible to notice a difference in that period but ONLY if you already have a domain with high authority (which again, most people don’t have) or if competition is extremely weak. Competition analysis is a completely separate subject whose importance will be explained in the future.
In our experience, we have identified several different personality types that will mostly fail in SEO:

- Distrustful webmasters – Certain types of people are suspicious about everything in life, including SEO. Not believing, constantly asking questions, people overly cautious will usually stop with SEO strategy before they even start. There are too many unknowns for their taste. These individuals usually pick the easiest and safest route instead of search engine optimization.

- Impatient people – Webmasters wanting everything here and now. This is not possible with SEO because there are many things to execute and improve over time. Otherwise, everyone would pay an SEO expert and have an optimized website. Who would rank then? Search engine optimization is an ongoing process of tweaking and fighting the competition and their SEO efforts.

- Lazy site owners – As mentioned above, there are many things to do especially if you have an established site that never properly implemented an SEO strategy. In many ways, it is easier when you are starting a new site, at least from the perspective of onsite SEO. Still, every scenario involves work fixing technical issues, investigating, comparing, competition examination, article writing, and link building, etc. Many webmasters faced with this predicament simply hope for the best, then decide to ignore everything and wait for the next SE algorithm.

- People not accepting new technologies – In the modern hi-tech world computing power is expressed in yotta and bronto FLOPS (yes, these are real words). There are constant technical improvements in the world of IT. This includes website promotion technologies and search engine advancement. This is simply nature of today’s world and inevitable direction where things are headed. We all remember keyword stuffing, placing invisible keywords on the page, relying on meta tags, etc. All those (and many other techniques) are obsolete. You can’t ignore things like voice search, semantic SE algorithms, mobile phones, artificial intelligence, etc. Each of these changes brings new rules and methods into the game. Still, there are people not willing to accept these ongoing changes. Picture individuals ignoring the inevitable future of electric vehicles. Their current vehicles run fine on petroleum-based fuels but will be parked once these fuels become obsolete.

- Indecisive type – Moving two steps forward then stopping or even worse, moving a step back. This type of people will just waste time and nerves. Given time they tend to share the same traits as the first person on this list (distrustful).

By now you should be slowly starting to get an idea how many people are actually out of the SEO game. For the dedicated, this is not necessarily and bad thing as it leaves many potential opportunities. On the flip side, there are big companies along with smart responsible individuals working on SEO. Even while you are reading this article. The trick is that even today, there are plenty of opportunities in almost every niche where you can squeeze a share of the money. If you are in the webmaster business for the long term, a stable flow of search engine traffic is the rule, not luck or an exception.
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part two

SUCCESSFUL SEO PLANING SHORTLIST
Without getting into the details at this time, below is a list of necessary first steps when it comes to smart planning. Every webmaster or site owner reading this will quickly realize if the were following these steps or not. Each step is important and basically irreplaceable.

1. KEYWORD RESEARCH – This is the first step, often totally overlooked for various reasons. Without a proper keyword research, there is no way to choose the successful path. Keyword research will tell you keyword potential and alternatives in a desired niche. Successful keyword research will give you information about which keywords are attainable based on your site ranking and how many monthly searches are inputted for your selected keyword. Most importantly, this research will provide keyword alternatives (long tail keywords).

2. COMPETITION ANALYSIS – With a list of keywords from above, your next step is to dig into the details. Considering that being ranked for certain keyword is not an easy task, it is important to know how difficult it is to get there and how serious is your competition. If you start putting effort into something that it is clearly too competitive, you will lose money, nerves and time. This step is mandatory and where webmasters often fail to try to compete for keywords totally out of their league.

3. PLAN CREATION (KEYWORD MAP) – Once you have separated the best keywords, it is time to make an action plan. This means sorting targeted keywords by difficulty and properly planning an internal linking structure which is very important from an SEO perspective. Besides external links, internal links tell search engines what your page is all about. You must have a smart interlinking strategy (learn everything about Google Rankbrain). Persistence and adhering to the plan are crucial at this point.

4. TEXT (ARTICLES) PREPARATION – Each keyword from the map above must have its own page on site. Every one of those pages must have a good SEO score (what is SEO score is explained here) and that includes proper text on the page. What many webmasters don’t understand is that it isn’t enough to just have text heavy page. Sure, the text provides food for search engines but ONLY if it is written well. Webmasters are usually ordering articles from writers without SEO knowledge. You will need to be extremely lucky and have uneducated competition for your targeted keyword to have success with this approach. A high-quality article must have a suitable length which is something that is separately calculated by SEO experts based on current top 10 ranking competitors where relevant key sentences and semantic constructions are used. If you don’t execute in this fashion, all previous effort will be in vain.

5. ONSITE PAGE OPTIMIZATION – This topic requires a very in-depth and lengthy explanation in its own right. Besides being long-winded, it might make this article more challenging to understand. For now, suffice it to say that Onsite page optimization is the most important step with SEO but in absolute relation with the others steps mentioned here. Please read this article which will provide a nice introduction to what is a good webpage optimization.

6. LINK BUILDING – Once you have gone through all the processes mentioned above, you can consider yourself successful with SEO for a targeted keyword. Now, this is where offsite SEO job starts. This means that you will need to obtain relevant links to that page from various sources. This is a never-ending process. The more you get, the more stable your position will be in search engine results page. When competition is easier (one of the reasons why you need competition analysis mentioned in #2), fewer links are necessary for a good ranking. In practice this might be only a few relevant links but, it is different for every case.
Perhaps, you have now discovered your own personal answer to a very important question; What are you doing wrong?


WHAT ARE YOU DOING WRONG?
If you failed to do at least one of the steps in the short list above, you now know what is wrong and why you are having problems with rankings. Every step is in relation to the others. To illustrate better, it is like investing and building a house without examining the ground before building a foundation. The house will stand as long as the weather is nice but it is just a matter of time before an earthquake hits in the form of big search engine algorithm updates with aftershocks of constant small algorithm updates. How will your house stand compared to your neighbors (competitors) that were built their homes by the rules?


CONCLUSION
This purpose of this article was to offer webmasters a simplified explaining how SEO works. Every attempt was made to avoid using a bunch of technical “mumbo-jumbo” terms that tend to complicate an already complicated subject. In closing, it would be appropriate to add that working on any long-term SEO strategy is like investing in education. You should plan your work, then work your plan. There are no legitimate shortcuts such as the temptation of applying black hat techniques. This approach will eventually see your site being penalized in future search engine updates. In time, results will come as this is the nature of the whole process. You can try to cheat which might yield results for a while. However, you will not survive long term if you fail to educate yourself, plan well and practice sound SEO principles.
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Nice write up, I like the part about who will fail with SEO.
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Gonna go ahead and call you out here:

None of your sites currently get very much SE traffic. Hell of a lot less than mine, i'll tell you that, and mine are barely making enough to live on where I come from

This post is an obvious marketing ploy for your own seo service, it's peppered with links to your own content-marketing articles on your site where you want to sell me SEO services

If you were truly good at SEO (or rather, if the outdated SEO practices you promote could actually reliably take a site to the top) your sites would be making so much money you wouldn't have to make this post to try to sell your SEO services

Sorry for being a dick but it's so obvious that what's happening here is, a dude who's not making enough money on his own websites because he can't get enough SE traffic, wants to sell you his services to help you get more SE traffic for your sites

like, yeah, OK, no thanks
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Gonna go ahead and call you out here:

None of your sites currently get very much SE traffic. Hell of a lot less than mine, i'll tell you that, and mine are barely making enough to live on where I come from

This post is an obvious marketing ploy for your own SEO service, it's peppered with links to your own content-marketing articles on your site where you want to sell me SEO services

If you were truly good at SEO (or rather if the outdated SEO practices you promote could actually reliably take a site to the top) your sites would be making so much money you wouldn't have to make this post to try to sell your SEO services

Sorry for being a dick but it's so obvious that what's happening here is, a dude who's not making enough money on his own websites because he can't get enough SE traffic, wants to sell you his services to help you get more SE traffic for your sites

like, yeah, OK, no thanks
As mentioned to some of the webmasters recently when talking about going in public with SEO stuff, it is just a matter of time when a dick will show up, and it just happened. Actually, it took longer than I was expecting considering average intellectual profile here on GFY. Also, I am impressed with your lucidity that helped you make such a spectacular conclusion that this is a mostly promotional article. Bravo, I should cloak links to the site, damn.

But what is even more interesting than motivation to ruin someone's effort is that an average dick doesn't know that there is no way to make a conclusion how much money you can make base on the amount of traffic. If someone is not aware of keyword quality difference and is making such infantile conclusions, I guess that he perfectly fits the first category described above (Distrustful webmasters) although I would add some more epithets, I guess that would be insulting, so I won't.

Once and for the last time (you clearly weren't reading articles on that SEO site and there are plenty of education articles not selling you anything), you can get a million clicks for " free tube videos" and make 1 sale on 10K visits, and you can make 10 up 12 times more with same 10K visits for a keyword like "best porn sites". This is just ONE of the reasons why you are barely making enough to live (your words , I don't know and I don't care how much do you make as you do for the others) with more SE traffic. What you don't know because you don't have enough knowledge (otherwise you wouldn't go public and expose yourself in this manner) is that there are people here having lower traffic but making 10 times more than I do. Dang..I am in contact with them almost every day and if they were listening to your logic, they would probably be homeless. The difference is exactly in keyword research and finding sweet spots and MONEY KEYWORDS.

Everything is already explained but clearly, your type of personality is problematic and destructive rather than being able to read and think about what was written. What you also missed because not reading (damn, again) is that on that SEO site is clearly stated that we are sorry and not accepting all websites if they are competition to our own plans. Naturally, plans are not public and we all are having our own way of development and future planning. For example, you want high volume traffic not converting and you are working on that. I personally pick smarter things like low volume keywords with extreme conversions.

There are tons of thing you are absolutely clueless at this moment. For example that there are enough site owners here on GFY (and some other places where I won't invite you now because you don't deserve being in a community where people are sharing info and helping each other) that saw my stats and things that have been done until this moment. Not sure will they respond to this crap and confirm but it doesn't make a difference to me.

What you also don't know (and I can't blame you for that) is what many of them will confirm you that going in public with SEO services is temporary because I need some additional and FASTER money for buying a property that I am planning for a while. This is an answer to your frivolous conclusion why would anyone sell SEO services. But it is just one answer. If you were reading instead of resisting, you would understand why doing a proper SEO takes time. You can't get fast results. I am perfectly aware of so many good places to work on but it is above my physical possibilities and time necessary to do it right. Still, I can make money by pointing and helping people already having established properties to improve things and I can make money in the process. Is this something you can understand when asking why would anyone do an SEO instead of doing it for himself? Have you ever blamed other SEO service providers in the same way? You really believe they would be on the market if your logic is true? Silly.

I didn't plan to answer to this type of posts because they were expected but couldn't resist answering. Just small illustration of what is written above about amount of search amount and money. This is from one of my sites based on Semrush.



In this particular example, getting clicks for the first keyword on that list makes no sales. Nada,...nothing, zero. Totally useless. Still, one of the low volume keywords there (or maybe more than one, I won't tell you) is making what someone running bunch of low-quality tube sites couldn't even imagine. As mentioned, there are people here reading this and having access to what I am talking about. Again do you believe or don't it doesn't make a difference for me. As stated in my first post, the biggest % of webmasters are out of this game before they even start and that is totally cool and funny to see.

I could write you an elaborate based on your post but why would I do that, I can spend that time better and work on some easily achievable niche dating spots and enjoy my sales while you are counting useless traffic. Or maybe I will continue developing cams and getting 1:32 conversion, not sure yet, there are so many things to do when you are in SEO.

Still, I've spent a few minutes to check am I in right and why you have such an attitude regarding SEO. If I've followed the right path, just a superficial check teamfap.com, tubescrape.com, pornfu.tv, emofap.com, tubedigs.com, xthots.com, pornjacks.com,fapbang.com, groupfap.com, tubescrape.com and others say that you are running a bunch of mega low domain authority sites, having ABSOLUTELY same content all over. So your conclusions are totally logical, form perspective of what you are doing (making low-quality websites and violently sending visitors to chaturbate and hoping for a sale). What you should figure out until now (even without reading this post) is there are so many different ways to make decent money with adult sites. Maybe they are not logical and obvious to you but that's completely different problem.

Now it is a moment that I should call you out to show me what techniques are outdated as you said but after looking at thin content pages and your business approach, It would be an additional waste of time.

To save your time, SEM rush is missing most of the relevant data if you are now thinking again and going for the more serious investigation. You simply won't find all money making words and channels there although you wouldn't be able to recognize them anyway.

Your post here once again proved that clueless people are usually the loudest. No one is forcing you into SEO, even that you placed a contact request through that site, you would probably be refused after few exchanged emails, so no worry, everyone will pick what he thinks it is the best path for his business.
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Sites that feature males (gay or not)

Sites that feature women

Sites that feature couples

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Gonna go ahead and call you out here:

None of your sites currently get very much SE traffic. Hell of a lot less than mine, i'll tell you that, and mine are barely making enough to live on where I come from

This post is an obvious marketing ploy for your own seo service, it's peppered with links to your own content-marketing articles on your site where you want to sell me SEO services

If you were truly good at SEO (or rather, if the outdated SEO practices you promote could actually reliably take a site to the top) your sites would be making so much money you wouldn't have to make this post to try to sell your SEO services

Sorry for being a dick but it's so obvious that what's happening here is, a dude who's not making enough money on his own websites because he can't get enough SE traffic, wants to sell you his services to help you get more SE traffic for your sites

like, yeah, OK, no thanks
very true, those that really know SEO and how to rank sites don't need to spam boards with their "SEO services".
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very true, those that really know SEO and how to rank sites don't need to spam boards with their "SEO services".
Says guy without basic time management skills that managed to get to 2018 not knowing how to organize and backup his sites. Commenting SEO is like commenting on rocket science for you. Silly, Denny.

Not accepting new orders anyway so keep spreading negativity, it is always the best way to spend your precious time.
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....but I have a question ? My Alexa rank is about the same as yours. Does that mean that my SEO is good or you have neglected yours?
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....but I have a question ? My Alexa rank is about the same as yours. Does that mean that my SEO is good or you have neglected yours?
you are a bit obsessed with Alexa, I'd say Alexa has nothing to do with your SEO and even when it comes to traffic, it's very inaccurate. better monitor $$$$ in your bank account, not Alexa
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you are a bit obsessed with Alexa, I'd say Alexa has nothing to do with your SEO and even when it comes to traffic, it's very inaccurate. better monitor $$$$ in your bank account, not Alexa
I am obsessed with Alexa, because GA are too complex for me to figure out and as to the dollars , my $$$$ closely follow Alexa rank, suffice to say when my Alexa was 400 K and now close to 200 K my $$$ also almost doubled.

And as to SEO ?? Just ask Agora around here why nobody really knows. And as to Google rank ? I have " two sets of two keywords" which I once a while type into Google search. We are on p 1 with them one month, next month on p2 and then back to 1. But 8 out of 10 videos on p 1 are other sites having our content ( legit or stolen).

Yet, I still do not know why I only have about 2,000 uniques/ day. That is mainly why I am here trying to " sniff" some information.
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I am obsessed with Alexa, because GA are too complex for me to figure out and as to the dollars , my $$$$ closely follow Alexa rank, suffice to say when my Alexa was 400 K and now close to 200 K my $$$ also almost doubled.

And as to SEO ?? Just ask Agora around here why nobody really knows. And as to Google rank ? I have " two sets of two keywords" which I once a while type into Google search. We are on p 1 with them one month, next month on p2 and then back to 1. But 8 out of 10 videos on p 1 are other sites having our content ( legit or stolen).

Yet, I still do not know why I only have about 2,000 uniques/ day. That is mainly why I am here trying to " sniff" some information.

FYI: just because you rank for your keyword when YOU search for it doesn't mean you are actually ranking for it. Google displays results that are relevant to you. That means if you spend a lot of time on your own site and then google something related to your site, it may display your site higher up in the rankings because it figures its more relevant to your search.

If you really want to know your ranking, try some tools like serpbook, semrush, ahrefs, etc. These tools will give you a better picture of where you rank in certain countries for your keywords.
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Old 08-30-2018, 07:25 AM   #24
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FYI: just because you rank for your keyword when YOU search for it doesn't mean you are actually ranking for it. Google displays results that are relevant to you. That means if you spend a lot of time on your own site and then google something related to your site, it may display your site higher up in the rankings because it figures its more relevant to your search.

If you really want to know your ranking, try some tools like serpbook, semrush, ahrefs, etc. These tools will give you a better picture of where you rank in certain countries for your keywords.
Thanks for the info. I will go look at these mysterious sites
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