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onwebcam · 05-17-2018, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

The dossier was orginally funded by Consertive website called the Washington Free Beacon. They were doing opposition research against Trump. Once Trump became the nominee they put party above all and dropped the research. Thats when it was picked up by the Hillary campaign.

The righties love to ignore the fact that the dossier started as a report funded by a Consertive group..Also we've seen a hell of a lot of the info in that dossier proven to be right..

FAKE NEWS

WFB hired Steele to investigate all the conservative candidates running against Bush... Steele himself admits he didn't begin working on the actual Trump dossier until after being hired by Hillary.. It's part of his own testimony in a defamation case against him... So it's undeniable.

Once more, for good measure: Conservatives didn't fund the Steele dossier
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...steele-dossier

crockett · 05-17-2018, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam

FAKE NEWS

WFB hired Steele to investigate all the conservative candidates running against Bush... Steele himself admits he didn't begin working on the actual Trump dossier until after being hired by Hillary.. It's part of his own testimony in a defamation case against him... So it's undeniable.

Once more, for good measure: Conservatives didn't fund the Steele dossier
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...steele-dossier

Why do you claim fake news and then post fake news? If you believe what you posted then you also have to state Hillary had nothing to do with the Steele Dossier..

Here I will explain because this has clearly gone over your head..

The WFB hired Fusion GPS not Steele.. Your article is trying create fuzzy facts because they know people like you wont pick up on what is being said.. You know because attention to detail is not your strong suite, specially when they are telling you what you want to hear.

They are claiming WFB had nothing to do with "Steele" because they didnt work with him but rather hired Fusion GPS.. However Fusion GPS hired Steele for the report aka the Dossier.. So because WFB didnt hire Steele your little right wing nutter webpage is trying to claim WFB had nothing to do with it.. aka spinning facts

Ironically, this is also exactly how it worked with Hillary/DNC's dealing on the Dossier.. Hillary nor the DNC worked with Steele. They hired Fusion GPS a well known opposition reseach company and Fussion hired Steele.. Steele didn't know he was writing a report for WFB or for Hillary and they didnt know who Steele was.. The middle man contact on both sides was Fusion GPS..

So onwebcam.. please explain how it was perfectly ok for WFB to do this but Hillary is a criminal for doing the exact same thing?

Ill be waiting for you to explain this away....

crockett · 05-17-2018, 08:08 AM

Here I will make it simple..

You go to walmart to buy eggs.. You dont buy eggs from the farmer.. No you buy the eggs from walmart and walmart sorts out dealing with the farmers or the middlemen between him and them..

This is the excuse WFB is using to distance its self from Steele.. They didnt pay the farmer they paid Walmart.. Meanwhile that's exactly what Hillary did but some how thats diffrent.... because it was Hillary and you right wing nutters are hypocrites..

beerptrol · 05-17-2018, 08:39 AM

Chumpanzees are having a meltdown

onwebcam · 05-17-2018, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Why do you claim fake news and then post fake news? If you believe what you posted then you also have to state Hillary had nothing to do with the Steele Dossier..

Here I will explain because this has clearly gone over your head..

The WFB hired Fusion GPS not Steele.. Your article is trying create fuzzy facts because they know people like you wont pick up on what is being said.. You know because attention to detail is not your strong suite, specially when they are telling you what you want to hear.

They are claiming WFB had nothing to do with "Steele" because they didnt work with him but rather hired Fusion GPS.. However Fusion GPS hired Steele for the report aka the Dossier.. So because WFB didnt hire Steele your little right wing nutter webpage is trying to claim WFB had nothing to do with it.. aka spinning facts

Ironically, this is also exactly how it worked with Hillary/DNC's dealing on the Dossier.. Hillary nor the DNC worked with Steele. They hired Fusion GPS a well known opposition reseach company and Fussion hired Steele.. Steele didn't know he was writing a report for WFB or for Hillary and they didnt know who Steele was.. The middle man contact on both sides was Fusion GPS..

So onwebcam.. please explain how it was perfectly ok for WFB to do this but Hillary is a criminal for doing the exact same thing?

Ill be waiting for you to explain this away....

You're an idiot...

crockett · 05-17-2018, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam

You're an idiot...

In other words you aknlowdge all your claims about Hillary conspiring on the Dossier are baseless lies?

dyna mo · 05-17-2018, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Ironically, this is also exactly how it worked with Hillary/DNC's dealing on the Dossier.. Hillary nor the DNC worked with Steele. They hired Fusion GPS a well known opposition reseach company and Fussion hired Steele.. Steele didn't know he was writing a report for WFB or for Hillary and they didnt know who Steele was.. The middle man contact on both sides was Fusion GPS..

this could very well be conspiracy and I wouldn't have a prob with an investigation into it.

beerptrol · 05-17-2018, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam

You're an idiot...

says the nutjob who posts conspiracy theories and fake news

onwebcam · 05-17-2018, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

this could very well be conspiracy and I wouldn't have a prob with an investigation into it.

He has no clue as to what really went on.. The paragraph you quote is a great example.. Not only did Hillary and cohorts work with Steele. They actually fed him information to include in it via the State Department. Nellie Ohr was hired on at Fusion to be the go between, between the State Department where her husband worked and Fusion.... Sid Blumenthal (life long friend of Clinton's) was fingered as the originator of said fake intel. The FBI's investigation was born from the State department. This is court record.. The Mueller investigation was born from those. They claim it was because of Comey's firing but that was just the setup and excuse to continue on. The Manafort charges derived from State Department investigations years ago not from Mueller's own investigation, also court record.... This is all fact and in congressional/court records among other places...

It was a complete setup from the start.. Coordinated at the highest level of government President Obama, who "wanted to know everything" because after all it was his legacy at stake... They never planned to lose and this would have all been swept rug... I firmly believe they actually considered trying to nullify the election in some way.. Possibly even assassinate Trump which is what led to Mike Rogers breaking ranks and going to NY to warn Trump in December. Luckily all failed and they will get what they deserve.

onwebcam · 05-17-2018, 10:40 AM

crockett · 05-17-2018, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

this could very well be conspiracy and I wouldn't have a prob with an investigation into it.

Opposition research is now a conspiracy? If there was "proof" of any wrong doing there would already be 5 investigations because Republicans control the House, Senate, the DOJ and the WH..

Who do you think is holding back Senate/House Republicans from starting another Hillary investigaton?

There is no one stopping them.. if there was any hint of wrong doing they would be all over it like stink on shit. All this is, is right wing nutter websites trying to feed a conspiracy frenzy to keep Red Hats entertained so they dont focus on all the shit Trump has lied about..

onwebcam · 05-17-2018, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Opposition research is now a conspiracy?

Isn't that what you make out of the Trump tower meeting?

BTW creating a dossier full of unprovable BS and then using that to spy on the opposition isn't the definition of "opposition research"

Democrats and Obama admin officials have claimed all along they didn't spy on the Trump campaign. Thanks to yesterday's NYTimes BS piece it is now "officially" admitted that they did.

dyna mo · 05-17-2018, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Opposition research is now a conspiracy?

no, I'm not saying it is. I am saying it is against the law to work with an enemy of the State on opposition research.

And that relationship (campaign hillary, fusion, & Steele), certainly present that opportunity and as carefree as the trump campaign seemed to be about it, why wouldn't hillary's?

I'm not claiming she's guilty, but that I would not have a prob with an investigation into it. Not that a government investigation into it would actually, you know, be truthful.

crockett · 05-17-2018, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam

Isn't that what you make out of the Trump tower meeting?

BTW creating a dossier full of unprovable BS and then using that to spy on the opposition isn't the definition of "opposition research"

Democrats and Obama admin officials have claimed all along they didn't spy on the Trump campaign. Thanks to yesterday's NYTimes BS piece it is now "officially" admitted that they did.

Trump tower meeting first of all was lied about by all those involved on Trumps team. Everything about that meeting Trump has lied about and top of all this the Russian woman has been outted as a Russian spy..

This isnt tit for tat.. because your team did shit wrong it means the other team must have as well.. On one hand we have actual proof of lying by the current administration and the attempted cover up of a meeting that included a Russian spy.. on the other side you have some right wing nutter websites making baseless claims with zero evidence other than you "think she's a criminal"...

onwebcam · 05-17-2018, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

no, I'm not saying it is. I am saying it is against the law to work with an enemy of the State on opposition research.

And that relationship (campaign hillary, fusion, & Steele), certainly present that opportunity and as carefree as the trump campaign seemed to be about it, why wouldn't hillary's?

I'm not claiming she's guilty, but that I would not have a prob with an investigation into it. Not that a government investigation into it would actually, you know, be truthful.

It is being investigated by Horowitz. I think it will be truthful.. He at least found the truth with McCabe and Comey.... Grant it neither were charged... We will see what happens with the next report, Clinton email scandal...

dyna mo · 05-17-2018, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam

It is being investigated by Horowitz. I think it will be truthful.. He at least found the truth with McCabe and Comey.... Grant it neither were charged... We will see what happens with the next report, Clinton email scandal...

if you don't mind a link to this, tia.

crockett · 05-17-2018, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

no, I'm not saying it is. I am saying it is against the law to work with an enemy of the State on opposition research.

And that relationship (campaign hillary, fusion, & Steele), certainly present that opportunity and as carefree as the trump campaign seemed to be about it, why wouldn't hillary's?

I'm not claiming she's guilty, but that I would not have a prob with an investigation into it. Not that a government investigation into it would actually, you know, be truthful.

If there was any shred of evidence that Hillary did something wrong, you can bet your ass Republicans would have open investigations in the house/senate. There is absolutely nothing stopping them from investigating this other than they know she did nothing wrong and they would get outted for another witch hunt with no proof of any wrong doing..

Instead they let morons run wild with speculation fed by right wing media, because it serves their purpose of distraction..

onwebcam · 05-17-2018, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

if you don't mind a link to this, tia.

McCabe report (This is why he was fired)
https://static01.nyt.com/files/2018/...abe-report.pdf

Clinton email report will be released within the week
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.e63aee81a378

Comey is (or will be) implicated in both of those

FISA investigation started

Statement on investigating FBI and DOJ prior to election activities. Notice it mentions he started in Jan 2017.. Likely the day Trump took office..

He's investigating it all. He has a Prosecutor working along side of him

Who is John Huber, the Utah US attorney investigating claims of FBI misconduct?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/29/polit...ber/index.html

All of the players involved have either quit, been fired or are likely cooperating.. Back when the DOJ claimed they didn't have Lisa Page and Strzok's text messages it was Horowitz who stepped up said said "No worries, I have them. I'll get those right over." He's the reason Strzok was removed from Mueller's hit team.

onwebcam · 05-17-2018, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

If there was any shred of evidence that Hillary did something wrong, you can bet your ass Republicans would have open investigations in the house/senate. There is absolutely nothing stopping them from investigating this other than they know she did nothing wrong and they would get outted for another witch hunt with no proof of any wrong doing..

Instead they let morons run wild with speculation fed by right wing media, because it serves their purpose of distraction..

dyna mo · 05-17-2018, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

If there was any shred of evidence that Hillary did something wrong, you can bet your ass Republicans would have open investigations in the house/senate. There is absolutely nothing stopping them from investigating this other than they know she did nothing wrong and they would get outted for another witch hunt with no proof of any wrong doing..

Instead they let morons run wild with speculation fed by right wing media, because it serves their purpose of distraction..

allow me to clarify- what I am saying is if there were reason to investigate, such as something emerging from the relationship described, I would not have a prob with that investigation.

I'm not suggesting a willy nilly investigation, I assumed that was obvious.

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