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  • Vendzilla
    Biker Gnome
    • Mar 2004
    • 23200
    #1

    Obama Betrayal: Effort to Snatch $10 Billion From Veterans

    President Obama and the Veterans Administration bureaucracy are already sabotaging the VA reform law passed in August. The ink is barely dry on the 8.6 million "Choice Cards" that supposedly allow vets to see a doctor outside the delay-plagued system.

    Obama?s budget tries to snatch the $10 billion allocated for the Choice program and allow it to be spent however VA top administrators want. It?s a sickening betrayal.

    Even worse, VA secretary Robert McDonald is telling federal lawmakers that this underhanded move will better serve "VA system priorities." That?s the problem. He?s more interested in protecting "the system" than vets. It?s all about bureaucratic turf and union jobs.

    Obama Betrayal: Effort to Snatch $10 Billion From Veterans
    Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
    think about that
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    • 2MuchMark
      Mark of 2Much.net
      • Aug 2004
      • 50919
      #2
      There is no more reputable source for news than NewsMax and of course, TeaParty.org

      But of course, they're not reputable at all, and instead just feed into the fear of the misinformed.

      From Obama budget seeks authority to shift funds from Veterans Choice program - The Washington Post

      President Obama?s 2016 budget asks for authority to reallocate funds from a temporary program that Congress established last year to help military veterans struggling to obtain care at Department of Veterans Affairs health clinics.

      The proposal would affect potential excess money from the Veterans Choice program, which allows eligible patients to seek treatment outside the VA hospital network if they have waited too long for an appointment or live far from the nearest agency medical center.

      Both congress AND the president approved $10 billion for the temporary benefit last year in the wake of the VA?s record-keeping scandal, which involved manipulation of scheduling data. The actions, detailed in various federal reviews and news accounts, hid treatment delays and may have helped managers earn bonuses.
      Isn't it time to stop the fear mongering, disinformation, etc? It's such a waste of time.

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        • epitome
          So Fucking Lame
          • Jun 2009
          • 12156
          #3
          Newsmax. LOL

          Interviewed with them once in Boca Raton for a divisional director of marketing position.

          Anyone that believes a lot of what they say ("news") or sell ("supplements") is a fool. Even they don't believe what they say or sell. I figured I wouldn't be a good fit being a gay guy and all. It turns out that they are purely a money making outfit that likes to spin the right into a fearful frenzy for profit.

          In so many words, they assured me that I'd fit in just fine because I was in on the joke. I declined the position. I dislike dumb people. I dislike taking advantage of them even more.

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            • Dvae
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2005
              • 5326
              #4
              Originally posted by MarkPrince

              Isn't it time to stop the fear mongering, disinformation, etc? It's such a waste of time.
              That's good advice Mark!
              From now on we can expect to see no more threads from you about fear mongering, misinformation and how the Republicans are so horrible. It's just such a waste of time.
              .
              .

              Arguing with a troll is a lot like wrestling in the mud with a pig, after a couple of hours you realize the pig likes it.

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                • Vendzilla
                  Biker Gnome
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 23200
                  #5
                  Originally posted by epitome
                  Newsmax. LOL

                  Interviewed with them once in Boca Raton for a divisional director of marketing position.

                  Anyone that believes a lot of what they say ("news") or sell ("supplements") is a fool. Even they don't believe what they say or sell. I figured I wouldn't be a good fit being a gay guy and all. It turns out that they are purely a money making outfit that likes to spin the right into a fearful frenzy for profit.

                  In so many words, they assured me that I'd fit in just fine because I was in on the joke. I declined the position. I dislike dumb people. I dislike taking advantage of them even more.
                  Obama wants to strip funding from veterans' medical choice program | WashingtonExaminer.com

                  Obama budget seeks authority to shift funds from Veterans Choice program - The Washington Post

                  Barack Obama Plan to Shift Veterans Choice Act Funds Faces Shelling on Hill - Washington Wire - WSJ

                  VA Seeks to Reallocate Choice Act Funds in $169B Budget Proposal | Military.com


                  just because the news posted is from a source not approved by you, doesn't mean it's not the truth
                  Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                  think about that

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                    • Vendzilla
                      Biker Gnome
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 23200
                      #6
                      Originally posted by Dvae
                      That's good advice Mark!
                      From now on we can expect to see no more threads from you about fear mongering, misinformation and how the Republicans are so horrible. It's just such a waste of time.
                      he's a Obama cheerleader, i posted more proof
                      Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                      think about that

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                        • epitome
                          So Fucking Lame
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 12156
                          #7
                          Originally posted by Vendzilla
                          Obama wants to strip funding from veterans' medical choice program | WashingtonExaminer.com

                          Obama budget seeks authority to shift funds from Veterans Choice program - The Washington Post

                          Barack Obama Plan to Shift Veterans Choice Act Funds Faces Shelling on Hill - Washington Wire - WSJ

                          VA Seeks to Reallocate Choice Act Funds in $169B Budget Proposal | Military.com


                          just because the news posted is from a source not approved by you, doesn't mean it's not the truth
                          And when you read the other sources it is not all doom and gloom, which was exactly my point.

                          Holy fuck you are stupid.

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                            • Vendzilla
                              Biker Gnome
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 23200
                              #8
                              Originally posted by epitome
                              And when you read the other sources it is not all doom and gloom, which was exactly my point.

                              Holy fuck you are stupid.
                              i love when morons speak, all they do is whine and offer nothing to the discussion, i bet when you talk to real people you get the same result, no friends
                              Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                              think about that

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                                • beerptrol
                                  Confirmed Asshole
                                  • Feb 2003
                                  • 12722
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                  i love when morons speak, all they do is whine and offer nothing to the discussion, i bet when you talk to real people you get the same result, no friends
                                  Then you must love talking and listening to yourself!
                                  “If we are to have another contest in the near future of our national existence, I predict that the dividing line will not be Mason and Dixon's but between patriotism and intelligence on the one side, and superstition, ambition and ignorance on the other.”
                                  -- Ulysses S. Grant

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                                    • dyna mo
                                      just a fucking jerk
                                      • Dec 2008
                                      • 68184
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by MarkPrince



                                      Isn't it time to stop the fear mongering, disinformation, etc? It's such a waste of time.
                                      had to login just to lolz @ this!

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                                        • JJ Gold
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Aug 2004
                                          • 1969
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by MarkPrince



                                          Isn't it time to stop the fear mongering, disinformation, etc? It's such a waste of time.
                                          I agree. Stop posting your Marxist environmental dribble. Thank you.

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                                            • 2MuchMark
                                              Mark of 2Much.net
                                              • Aug 2004
                                              • 50919
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by Dvae
                                              That's good advice Mark!
                                              From now on we can expect to see no more threads from you about fear mongering, misinformation and how the Republicans are so horrible. It's just such a waste of time.
                                              Good point! And you're right. Though I disagree with you that pointing out republican shenanigans is fear mongering, I'll agree that its waste of time too.

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                                                • 2MuchMark
                                                  Mark of 2Much.net
                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                  • 50919
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by JJ Gold
                                                  I agree. Stop posting your Marxist environmental dribble. Thank you.

                                                  Karl Marx - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
                                                  Environmentalist - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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                                                    • Vendzilla
                                                      Biker Gnome
                                                      • Mar 2004
                                                      • 23200
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by beerptrol
                                                      Then you must love talking and listening to yourself!
                                                      yet you are talking to me, see the interest i bring, other than what little you bring. Skeaking of little, size of your dick, so small, there's no interest, LOL
                                                      Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                      think about that

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                                                        • Vendzilla
                                                          Biker Gnome
                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                          • 23200
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                          had to login just to lolz @ this!
                                                          yeah,

                                                          Obama promises to help the veterans, but when he sees they have money for support, he's quick to take it away, probably to fund one of his contributors. he figures Vets already don't like him, what's the difference?
                                                          Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                          think about that

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                                                            • Mickey_
                                                              • Nov 2005
                                                              • 4238
                                                              #16


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                                                                • bronco67
                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                  • Dec 2006
                                                                  • 29026
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                  President Obama and the Veterans Administration bureaucracy are already sabotaging the VA reform law passed in August. The ink is barely dry on the 8.6 million "Choice Cards" that supposedly allow vets to see a doctor outside the delay-plagued system.

                                                                  Obama?s budget tries to snatch the $10 billion allocated for the Choice program and allow it to be spent however VA top administrators want. It?s a sickening betrayal.

                                                                  Even worse, VA secretary Robert McDonald is telling federal lawmakers that this underhanded move will better serve "VA system priorities." That?s the problem. He?s more interested in protecting "the system" than vets. It?s all about bureaucratic turf and union jobs.

                                                                  Obama Betrayal: Effort to Snatch $10 Billion From Veterans
                                                                  You know that site is all made up bullshit? Right?

                                                                  Stay away from conservative sludge tanks.

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                                                                    • crockett
                                                                      in a van by the river
                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                      • 76818
                                                                      #18
                                                                      In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                                        • mozadek
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Feb 2008
                                                                          • 1325
                                                                          #19
                                                                          I find it funny that the only time people pretend to give a fuck about the troops is when they can use the troops as a reason to bash Obama.

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                                                                            • Vendzilla
                                                                              Biker Gnome
                                                                              • Mar 2004
                                                                              • 23200
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by bronco67
                                                                              You know that site is all made up bullshit? Right?

                                                                              Stay away from conservative sludge tanks.
                                                                              So the other four sources, including military.com are also bullshit? You're a moron, you k now that don't you?
                                                                              Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                              think about that

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                                                                                • baddog
                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                  • Apr 2001
                                                                                  • 107089
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by JJ Gold
                                                                                  I agree. Stop posting your Marxist environmental dribble. Thank you.
                                                                                  Originally posted by Dvae
                                                                                  That's good advice Mark!
                                                                                  From now on we can expect to see no more threads from you about fear mongering, misinformation and how the Republicans are so horrible. It's just such a waste of time.

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                                                                                    • Rochard
                                                                                      Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                                                                      • Dec 2001
                                                                                      • 75733
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by MarkPrince
                                                                                      There is no more reputable source for news than NewsMax and of course, TeaParty.org

                                                                                      But of course, they're not reputable at all, and instead just feed into the fear of the misinformed.

                                                                                      From Obama budget seeks authority to shift funds from Veterans Choice program - The Washington Post



                                                                                      Isn't it time to stop the fear mongering, disinformation, etc? It's such a waste of time.
                                                                                      Without reading any of your links and only what you quoted... It was excess money from a temporary program. Not seeing the problem here.
                                                                                      Herschel Savage
                                                                                      Brooklyn, NY

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                                                                                        • Vendzilla
                                                                                          Biker Gnome
                                                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                                                          • 23200
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                          Without reading any of your links and only what you quoted... It was excess money from a temporary program. Not seeing the problem here.
                                                                                          No, it was not excess money, it was money that was put on place for funding so vets could see private doctors when the va hospital was backed up.
                                                                                          Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                          think about that

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                                                                                            • L-Pink
                                                                                              working on my tan
                                                                                              • Mar 2005
                                                                                              • 39151
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Dvae
                                                                                              That's good advice Mark!
                                                                                              From now on we can expect to see no more threads from you about fear mongering, misinformation and how the Republicans are so horrible. It's just such a waste of time.
                                                                                              Is it to early to nominate post of the year?

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                                                                                                • bronco67
                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                  • Dec 2006
                                                                                                  • 29026
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                  So the other four sources, including military.com are also bullshit? You're a moron, you k now that don't you?
                                                                                                  You calling anyone a moron is hilarious. You're an angry old dude complaining. No one cares.

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                                                                                                    • Vendzilla
                                                                                                      Biker Gnome
                                                                                                      • Mar 2004
                                                                                                      • 23200
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by bronco67
                                                                                                      You calling anyone a moron is hilarious. You're an angry old dude complaining. No one cares.
                                                                                                      You're the one that can't read and needs to be corrected constantly.

                                                                                                      Calling you a moron is an upgrade.
                                                                                                      Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                                      think about that

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                                                                                                        • Dvae
                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                                                                          • 5326
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                                                                          Is it to early to nominate post of the year?
                                                                                                          Sounds good to me
                                                                                                          Shall we take a vote?
                                                                                                          .
                                                                                                          .

                                                                                                          Arguing with a troll is a lot like wrestling in the mud with a pig, after a couple of hours you realize the pig likes it.

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                                                                                                            • BFT3K
                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                              • Dec 2005
                                                                                                              • 10764
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              I like pizza and I like sandwiches, but I'm giving a big thumbs-down to the Pizza Sandwich...

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                                                                                                                • Vendzilla
                                                                                                                  Biker Gnome
                                                                                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                  • 23200
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Dvae
                                                                                                                  Sounds good to me
                                                                                                                  Shall we take a vote?
                                                                                                                  Aye!_________
                                                                                                                  Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                                                  think about that

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                                                                                                                    • L-Pink
                                                                                                                      working on my tan
                                                                                                                      • Mar 2005
                                                                                                                      • 39151
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by BFT3K
                                                                                                                      I like pizza and I like sandwiches, but I'm giving a big thumbs-down to the Pizza Sandwich...

                                                                                                                      Add more cheese and open-face that in the oven.

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