JohnRingo

hello...

you may know me as the ass hole here on GFY...

but i would like some advice on the sites I am running and the direction I am going to go...

hotgirlsdoingit dot com is a pr2 site and makes some sales with about 500 visits a day
xxxoasis dot com /porn is a new site and makes no sales yet with about 200 visits a day
livewebsexcamgirls dot com is a site with a forum at /forum with the same about of traffic

when i started these sites i autocreated a lot of posts and am now adding some handwritten seo stuff

i am going to be adding a few more niches in the near future but before doing so would like to know what the gfy community thinks

i know i come off as an ass hole on here, but hey, it's all fun and games right?

i know how to generate traffic as hotgirlsdoingit used to get about 30,000 visits a day before i tested something that backfired...

and i know traffic is king and i know where to find that, but other than that...

any suggestions?

(other than to gfm)

thanks

AdultKing

long tail keywords, original content, build search engine traffic from the ground up. forget short cuts, they usually wont work.

Market Samurai will help.

AzteK

add quality links to that

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twistyneck

I want to help you but I'm too freaked out because your name is JohnRingo but your avatar is Ringo John.

AdultKing

Agreed, however there is no use linking to a site that everything possible on site hasn't already been taken care of. Looking at these sites, he needs some serious thought about on page factors for competition and funneling surfers landing to where he wants them to go.

I recommend Market Samurai because it helps you develop good practices while tracking your competition, doing research, making sure your on page SEO is right. Nothing is going to be a silver bullet but at least you can begin to develop good habits.

Think about people landing on your site, search engines don't consume content people do. So your sites need to keep your visitors on site and fling them off in the direction YOU want to send them, not have them click off page and go somewhere else.

cooldude7

hotgirlsdoingit looks ok ,

bean-aid

I would make hotgirlsdoingit a pay site of hot slutty bar chicks hooking up at night after turning down guido guys.

More importantly, how did 30000 uniques turn into 500? Fix that problem and you could be on your way ;)

JohnRingo

I like that idea for the bar girls. Anyone out there want to supply me with some content... lol.

It's a problem that I can fix easily, but I want to make sure that I have the site optimized for converting before I spend time flooding traffic again. Besides, 99% of that traffic was bunk anyway.

On a side note, livewebsexcamgirls did do 2 sales today on 7 clicks to a sponsor.

JohnRingo

my site does very well with the longtail keywords i optimize for and all ads are relevant... since i am just trying to convert sales, anywhere they go from my site is good for me... right?

could you provide a bit more specifics?

bean-aid

1 percent of 30K is 300.

AdultKing

Are you on drugs ? There are penis pill ads all over hotgirlsdoingit.

I don't know how you think that it's a good site for surfers, it's awful.

JohnRingo

hmmm... that is something to consider...

my logic was that juicy ads (which i've used at startup to generate a few dollars here and there) was promoting such things so I assumed they converted?

JohnRingo

yep... and i'm getting better than that without the work i was doing at 30,000 a day... lol

AdultKing

Change your sig line before people laugh at you.

Tell me two of the keywords you think you are targeting with hotgirlsdoingit dot com and i'll tell you a few ways to improve it.

JohnRingo

Lol. I like to be laughed at. I'd like to rank for alluring vixens. They have been converting well. Also like to rank for specific model names like Melissa debling.

AdultKing

I'd control the spam bots joining your forum too:

they usually link to things in their profiles that might hurt your SEO efforts.

JohnRingo

Thanks man. I really do appreciate it.

AdultKing

You know you don't even rank for hot girls doing it as a broad match, you are #1 for the phrase match but according to me you're ranking 9th page for

hot girls doing it

You only have 5 fresh backlinks and these are dubious quality. I don't know how you got PR2 but I suspect you won't retain it, there is no authority.

You dont rank at all for Melissa Debling and rank in the 500-600s for alluring vixens.

I would imagine you will be lucky to maintain a PR1 on that site next time theres a shift.

AdultKing

On the xxxoasis site, try this. Get rid of the messenger pop ups and switch the side bar from right to left. I bet it improves conversions by doing that.

I'm not a fan of the themes, I think you could use a much better one. Also I see something peaked around October/November last year that probably destroyed your SEO efforts, been using black hat tools ?

JohnRingo

Thanks again for the advice. Hot girls was never meant to be the ranking term. Just a newbie mistake although the site name does generate decent traffic and is easy to remember. The site was PR 3 and did well until a database blip made me redirect traffic for a day and start over.

I'm assuming it got the rank because I handwrite more than a few posts.

So basically messenger pop ups and dick pills don't convert? I've always hated them both bit have seen them on bigger sites and assumed they made $

JohnRingo

Only thing close to black hat would have been some article marketing. But these were hand written articles and not spread around willy nilly.

AdultKing

I didn't say dick pills don't convert. The point I was making is that you have too many choices for your surfers to choose from on your pages. You need to fix on page SEO on these sites, this alone will improve them.

Get rid of any duplicate content entirely. It looks to me like you have tried to take a few shortcuts and fucked up as a result, fix those issues and things will improve.

Try switching the ad side bar/tags etc to the left of the page, this will probably help using that theme.

AdultKing

Well perhaps reconsider what you did around October/November last year, unnatural link profiles will hurt you as often as they will help you. The spike back then was unnatural and if I can see that, Google can certainly see that.

JohnRingo

The traffic spike? That was from some forum posting I did.

As for on page SEO, I have title h1 tag and meta data all related. Some of the posts dont have enough content for proper SEO and I am working on that.

What on page SEO do u see that needs fixing?

V_RocKs

Make the container dynamic and allow the posts to fill it so larger monitors get 4 or 5 across and smaller ones 2 or 3...

AdultKing

target keywords in the title and on page <h1> <h2> tags would help. You might as well shoot for hot girls doing it in the keywords optimized for on your home page, this will improve overall results as you target keywords on other pages.

JohnRingo

so do you recommend linking the images to the affiliate galleries... or should i host the full galleries myself and add links to a join page?

AdultKing

Assuming I understand your question correctly you should link images to full posts then from full posts to galleries, that way you get lower bounce rates, which Google sees as a good thing and you also get maximum benefit from your SEO efforts targeting keywords.

JohnRingo

so has what i've just done to hotgirlsdoingit helped at all?

AdultKing

no you just made it worse.

JohnRingo

lol... oh really?

AdultKing

slightly better now, make sure you put your primary domain keywords in your <title> tags.

JohnRingo

then riddle me why this page is ranking so well?

http://alluringvixenspictures.com/

AdultKing

you're trolling aren't you ?

JohnRingo

i don't know what trolling is? i'm just here trying to make $ like the rest of us

AdultKing

aluringvixenspictures.com has relevant backlinks, has the keyword in the domain name, it does not have all the best SEO on page factors and has no PR. However it's relevancy is deemed higher for Alluring Vixens than anything that you have on the other sites you posted.

porno jew

your shit sucks back to warrior forum.

AdultKing

I hope that wasn't directed at me!

JohnRingo

so it looks to me like all the back links come from similar sites... i'm to assume that this is a large network

i am creating a page specifically for the av stuff... and going to optimize and build some links...

AdultKing

You need to understand the benefits of having natural link profiles. You obviously don't

JohnRingo

you know what, some forum you have here if this is how you are going to act...

people like you and your "digital point" and "warrior forum" comments show your true colors... jaded porn guys who have spent more time jerking to online porn that spending it with a real woman

i asked for advice and adult king has been more than helpful and i owe him a lot of thanks...

as for you, now who's the troll

gfy

AdultKing

The yellow is AlluringVixensPictures . com the blue is HotGirlsDoingIt . com



This is the number of referring domains over the period shown mid 2010 to now.

What do you think Google would think about that ?

JohnRingo

i understand... i know how and why that happened and can make sure that it doesn't happen again

AdultKing

Usually if you build your site for surfers, then everything else will fall into place.

Good SEO practice is also good Webmaster practice and understanding that will help a whole lot.

Always remember that people use search engines, not bots, so your content needs to be easily and readily consumed by your visitors.

Every site is different however if you reduce the number of ads, know exactly where you want to channel your visitors and use forethought and strategy to funnel them there then you will make more sales.

On page SEO should come before any additional SEO efforts. Also ONE highly relevant authoritative link is as good or better than 100 crap links.

JohnRingo

natural link profiles means not having 100 links added in a day... but rather 100 added in 100 days...

correct?

AdultKing

No, it means having authoritative links from relevant web sites preferably linking deep into your site that are gained organically. This is the ideal.

If you can't achieve the ideal then position links with highly relevant anchor text linking deep into your site from relevant websites. Add them slowly over time, however for each link added to your site you want to grow your content also.

examples: car sites rarely have links to printing sites, porn sites rarely have links to bible study sites, vacuum cleaner sites rarely link to mobile discos. relevancy is critical. link to your sites from other porn blogs ideally.

Social media helps also, social media gives Google indicators on what people are talking about, linking deep into your site from social media can be helpful.

I think Google is getting pretty good at noticing things that don't look natural and is also more quickly penalizing sites than ever before for unnatural events.

JohnRingo

So having my posts automatically post to twitter and from a google + account would be a good thing?

AdultKing

Some people say that automatically posting to twitter for each blog post is a bad thing, I think it doesn't hurt. In my own experience using randomized posts to twitter the blog work better.

Tjeezers

re: your sig, cause the tissues are in the box

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JohnRingo

Good one.