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  • MANN
    Confirmed User
    • May 2006
    • 368

    #1

    Paypal and Porn Industry

    Why most sponsors do not pay by paypal? Are there any restrictions?

    I never understood that.
  • Pseudonymous
    Photographer/Owner
    • Apr 2006
    • 2661

    #2
    Paypal doesn't deal with adult.
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    • Chris
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • May 2003
      • 27880

      #3
      yup what pseudonymous said

      they dont like adult at all - they tried to many years ago but it was short lived
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      • Lukke
        Confirmed User
        • Sep 2005
        • 746

        #4
        Adult payments are against their rules.

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        • Hermes
          Confirmed User
          • Oct 2010
          • 264

          #5
          Because their rules aren't very clear about it and nobody got direct answer from them or I haven't seen any post about it, probably even most PayPal employees aren't sure about how it is. Some use them some don't, go figure..
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          • Davy
            Confirmed User
            • Apr 2006
            • 4323

            #6
            There's more and more companies which have added Paypal as a substitute to Epass.
            Not sure if I am happy with that. If Paypal locks adult-related transactions, it will be an even harder hit than the Mallick of Epass.
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            • adult-help
              Confirmed User
              • Mar 2008
              • 2450

              #7
              this has been debated many times. paypal doesn't allow adult in general but there are several bigger sponsor who pay adult commission via paypal . they probably directly contacted paypal and negotiated . payypal doesn't like to deal with "small" people because it just aint worth it - too much can go wrong IMO.
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              • Davy
                Confirmed User
                • Apr 2006
                • 4323

                #8
                Originally posted by adult-help
                they probably directly contacted paypal and negotiated . payypal
                I really really hope that they did that. I would not like to see either my account or theirs frozen.
                Paypal keeps all details on file - if they lock you, you need to get a new bank account if you ever want to use them again!
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                • jonnydoe
                  Confirmed User
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 543

                  #9
                  PayPal does not PROCESS adult subscriptions. Processing subscriptions is much different from paying for services or affiliate commissions.
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                  • Twoface31
                    Confirmed User
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 2746

                    #10
                    well just follow the rules of paypal, look for some payments that accept adult payments....

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                    • Phillipmcd1
                      Confirmed User
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 665

                      #11
                      AAW said they have been paying through Paypal for years. Is that true?

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                      • john FVC
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 671

                        #12
                        They don't seem to have any problem processing for the likes of Rapidshare which as we all know is full of pirated porn.


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                        • HomerSimpson
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Sep 2005
                          • 13826

                          #13
                          Originally posted by john FVC
                          They don't seem to have any problem processing for the likes of Rapidshare which as we all know is full of pirated porn.
                          yeah....
                          but that's because they are making bank of RS transactions/fees
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                          • seoguyzzz
                            Confirmed User
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 997

                            #14
                            well paypal got freedom to freez any account any time without a reason.
                            i hate paypal a lot but still use it.
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                            • Agent 488
                              Registered User
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 22511

                              #15
                              on another board i read paypal just recently changed their terms. from gaydemon:

                              Yesterday I was poking around the PayPal site and was prompted to upgrade my account to a business account for online digital goods.

                              I looked at the form and to my surprise, under the business category of Entertainment was the subcategory of Adult digital goods. They ask for your web address and where else online you'll be selling your goods.

                              So I filled out the form, the account was approved and now, evidently, I can sell adult recurring subscriptions via Paypal @ 2.9% + $0.30USD per transaction. No yearly Visa fee.

                              If you goto the Paypal Digital Goods page it says coming soon, but all the tools are available in my merchant services area.

                              Adult content is not prohibited in the Paypal user agreement or the PayPal Acceptable Use Policy that I had to read and agree to.

                              Do you think adult sites will start allowing subscribers to signup via PayPal?

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                              • 2MuchMark
                                Mark of 2Much.net
                                • Aug 2004
                                • 50991

                                #16
                                If you want to use Paypal, don't trust the cashflow of your business by what anyone else says. Contact paypal directly, and ask them yourself exactly what you are allowed to sell. Be 100% completely honest with them. Show them your website and tell them exactly what customers get for their money, your re-bill and refund policies, etc etc. That is the only way you will get an accurate answer. Taking anyone elses advice on this is risking your business.

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                                • CyberHustler
                                  Masterbaiter
                                  • Feb 2006
                                  • 28750

                                  #17
                                  Paypal is the only middle man I use... been using them for 10 years with only minor hiccups that had nothing to do with adult stuff and everything to do with securing my account.
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                                  • Argos88
                                    So Fucking Banned
                                    • Sep 2009
                                    • 1732

                                    #18
                                    Some ADULT sponsors pay via paypal...

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                                    • Barry-xlovecam
                                      It's 42
                                      • Jun 2010
                                      • 18083

                                      #19
                                      Forget PayPal for adult period.

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                                      • Pseudonymous
                                        Photographer/Owner
                                        • Apr 2006
                                        • 2661

                                        #20
                                        Q: "What is paypals stand on adult businesses
                                        paying out affiliates via paypal?"

                                        : "To determine if transactions violate this policy, PayPal considers these
                                        factors:

                                        -Commissions offered to recruit new members
                                        -Requirements for new distributors to purchase costly inventory or
                                        "start-up kits"

                                        -Members' profits derived from recruiting new members or from the sales
                                        of newly-recruited members ("downline") rather than their own sales

                                        -Payouts from fees or contributions paid by new or existing members

                                        -Money paid into the system that is significantly greater than money
                                        paid out

                                        -Unrealistic or unsupported promises regarding profits or return on
                                        investment

                                        -Percentage of the company's goods sold by a non-distributor
                                        Flow of money derived from new members predominantly moves "upline"
                                        -Preservation of the business rests on the exponential growth of new
                                        members or customers

                                        -Offers of speculative real estate or non-development property
                                        -Business functioning as an auto-surf investment program or a high-yield
                                        investment program

                                        -Warnings from governmental agencies about the business model
                                        PayPal defines these programs as follows.

                                        Pyramid schemes – Members receive money for enrolling other people into
                                        the scheme. PayPal considers online payment randomizers a type of
                                        pyramid scheme because the majority of commissions are paid for the
                                        recruitment of new members, and these systems typically operate by
                                        random placement within the program.

                                        Ponzi schemes – Existing members receive payouts funded by new payments
                                        into the program from new member fees or existing member contributions.

                                        Matrix programs – Individuals pay primarily to be added to a waiting
                                        list for a product. The individual at the top of the list receives the
                                        product only after a set number of people have joined after that
                                        individual.

                                        "Get rich quick" schemes – Include any type of self-employment, start-up
                                        business, or investment opportunity where the claims of profit or
                                        returns on investment are unrealistic or unsupported.

                                        Multi-level marketing programs – Individuals receive proceeds from their
                                        sales of goods or services and from those of recruited members. PayPal
                                        generally prohibits multi-level marketing programs that offer payouts to
                                        both the seller and the individual(s) who recruited the seller. PayPal
                                        reserves the right to permit certain multi-level marketing programs at
                                        its sole discretion."

                                        It appears as if it's not breaking the rules simply because it's adult but for other reasons.
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                                        • Mr Happy
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Feb 2010
                                          • 485

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Hermes
                                          Because their rules aren't very clear about it and nobody got direct answer from them or I haven't seen any post about it, probably even most PayPal employees aren't sure about how it is. Some use them some don't, go figure..
                                          Sounds like most fags who work at Bestbuy

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                                          • Davy
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Apr 2006
                                            • 4323

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Agent 488
                                            I looked at the form and to my surprise, under the business category of Entertainment was the subcategory of Adult digital goods. They ask for your web address and where else online you'll be selling your goods.
                                            Adult digital goods? That's interesting. I wonder what they mean with that.

                                            Originally posted by MarkPrince
                                            Contact paypal directly, and ask them yourself exactly what you are allowed to sell.
                                            I was selling a printed nude calendar a couple of years back. I contacted paypal before printing it. The guy on the phone was first a little perplex along the lines of "of course you can sell a calendar with paypal". Once I told him that there would be nude women in the calendar, we agreed to send him the pics for review. They took a look at them and saw that they were harmless.

                                            You cannot sell hardcore with paypal. At least not as a physical good. Strictly no genitals!
                                            I don't think their digital goods would allow anything else.
                                            Last edited by Davy; 11-26-2010, 07:02 AM.
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