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Elli	11-19-2010 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiopa_Matt (Post 17713004)

Spend an extra few hundred, so I don't get routed through the US on my way back to Canada.

US customs policy suck too. Even if you're just a connecting passenger, you still have to go through immigration, and haul all your bags with you. Then for example, you have a 9 hour layover in LAX, but can't check-in until 3 hours before your flight, so you're stuck lugging your shit around for 6 hours.

No other country in the world does that. They let you stay in a secured area, keep your luggage for you, and let you get drunk & eat while you play on the internet, until you're ready to board your flight pissed and ready to pass out. You stumble onto the plane, wake up at your destination, and onwards with your life you go.

Yep. I pay more just to skip stopping in the US. It's so much easier and less stressful that way.

wehateporn

11-19-2010 02:29 PM

Would definitely prefer to relocate to Chernobyl rather than get my DNA torn apart by Body Scanner T-Rays

PornMD

11-19-2010 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 17712551)

Just read this on another forum:

From the Toronto Sun: http://bit.ly/dAEhED

A pilot from Skywest was going through security in Denver with his 18-year-old daughter and overheard a TSA officer saying into his headset, ?heads up, got a cutie for you.?

Secondhand account here: http://bit.ly/duVqfZ

He then confronted the TSA clerk with what he said and that neither of us are going through the NoS. The TSA clerk said you must have misunderstood me.

He said pat-down was pretty evasive, and his daughter felt uncomfortable.

He is taking it up with Skywest, with this behavior. Normally, crews there go through a different screening area, but since he was with his daughter, he got to see the TSA clerks at their finest in Denver.

Pics of them groping his 18-year-old daughter or it didn't happen.

O MARINA

11-19-2010 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 17713148)

Would definitely prefer to relocate to Chernobyl rather than get my DNA torn apart by Body Scanner T-Rays

I LOL'ed :1orglaugh
I'll drive you to the Airport

Supz	11-19-2010 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by O MARINA (Post 17713227)

I LOL'ed :1orglaugh
I'll drive you to the Airport

I am getting a job at the TSA soon. Please dont choose the scanner.

Thanks :)

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

11-19-2010 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TheLegacy (Post 17712301)

This thread is useless without pics!!

http://www.elsaelsa.com/wp-content/u.../body-scan.jpg

Boneprone fucked her... :helpme

Sarah, I assume you meant that you are flying to (not from) SF on Monday, right?

If you are already here, send me an e-mail about how to contact you and maybe we can get together for a drink/bite if you have time (I mean food - no groping, we're both married, LOL).

Supposed to rain this weekend, but dry skies after that.

:drinkup

ADG

Sarah_Jayne

11-19-2010 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JenniDahling (Post 17712843)

I say go for the groping. As they pat you down, start moaning, softly at first till they get to the good spots then yell "Yes! Yes! Yes!" and don't forget the O face.

:1orglaugh

DBS.US

11-19-2010 09:01 PM

Does your phone do video?:winkwink:

Jon Oso

11-19-2010 09:12 PM

I'm renting a car (preferably a hybrid) and driving to LA for the holidays.

GregE

11-19-2010 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 17712551)

I've got a daughter too, about the same age, and she'd have had to bail my ass outta jail if we'd have run into that same sort of TSA interface.

This might be a good time for Obama to hurl a few more drones into Pakistan :disgust

GregE

11-19-2010 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiopa_Matt (Post 17713004)

They let you stay in a secured area, keep your luggage for you, and let you get drunk & eat while you play on the internet, until you're ready to board your flight pissed and ready to pass out. You stumble onto the plane, wake up at your destination, and onwards with your life you go.

Not sure of your country of origin, but that sounds like a civilized traveling experience to me :thumbsup

Oh, and there be 50 traveling nightmares we've heard about in this thread.

Sarah_Jayne

11-20-2010 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 17713350)

UGH! I am flying 'from'. I have been here since the 12th. However,I am coming back in April(ish) time for longer. I already mentioned to Baddog that would mind doing a small webmaster get together. I don't know if you remember Tofu (used to work for adult.com) but he is in this area too and we met up last night and he is still doing sites and up for it too. So, hopefully next time!

When I got here, the weather was amazing...not so much yesterday and today..lol

CaptainWolfy

11-20-2010 10:06 AM

you have to do that?!

nikki99

11-20-2010 10:07 AM

I want the police to look at me naked

Agent 488

11-20-2010 10:12 AM

there have been reports of middle eastern men yelling "don't touch my junk" and being let on without a pat down. there we be a bomb going off on a plane because of this mark my words ...

Amputate Your Head

11-20-2010 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17714960)

there have been reports of middle eastern men yelling "don't touch my junk" and being let on without a pat down. there we be a bomb going off on a plane because of this mark my words ...

if someone really wants to bring down a plane, they will find a way.

these scanners and grope sessions do nothing to prevent it.

Sarah_Jayne

11-20-2010 10:19 AM

If they want to put us through all of this they can at least give us a free checked bag.

Agent 488

11-20-2010 10:20 AM

i think what might work better is if the passengers patted each other down. sort of like those seminars or meetings where you shake the hand of the persons sitting beside you. that might help relieve some of the anxiety.

Amputate Your Head

11-20-2010 10:24 AM

have they implemented the Scanner Fee and the Pat-Down Fee yet?

you know they will, it's just a matter of time.

Sarah_Jayne

11-20-2010 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17714986)

have they implemented the Scanner Fee and the Pat-Down Fee yet?

you know they will, it's just a matter of time.

I wish you were wrong.

brassmonkey

11-20-2010 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash (Post 17712174)

Would you warm your hands first?

yep sure would. :)

Peaches

11-21-2010 08:11 PM

I was groped in London and Shannon back in 07 (I think that's when we were there??). And I've yet to know ANYONE who's gotten picked to be groped in the states. Many of my friends are disappointed :(

I'm just trying to figure out how to get groped w/o having to buy a plane ticket.

Sarah_Jayne

11-21-2010 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peaches (Post 17717502)

Well it is tomorrow morning so I will let you know if I become the one you know that has been gateraped.

Sarah_Jayne

11-23-2010 02:26 PM

In the end, there was no choice. I had to go through the naked scan thing and so did everybody else.

MaDalton

11-23-2010 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikki99 (Post 17714950)

I want the police to look at me naked

do you still have a male passport? i wonder how they usually react when they see you in general

pornguy

11-23-2010 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17712137)

I've already made my choice. I won't fly.

and before someone poo-poos the notion, think about it for a minute. If just half the people flying made this choice, those body scanners would be out of commission in a heartbeat.

Boycotts work, regardless of what the airline propaganda machine tells you, but only if people participate. :2 cents:

So very true..

I wont be flying for some time to come.

KrissyElise

11-23-2010 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikki99 (Post 17714950)

I want the police to look at me naked

Then they will know
http://www.zgeek.com/forum/gallery/f...tin-powers.jpg

Sly	11-23-2010 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash (Post 17722795)

In the end, there was no choice. I had to go through the naked scan thing and so did everybody else.

Are you saying that they would not allow you to opt out?

Sarah_Jayne

11-23-2010 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17723141)

Are you saying that they would not allow you to opt out?

I was not given any other option than to go through the body scanner. I don't know what would have happened if I objected but I wasn't out and out given a choice, no.

Elli	11-23-2010 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash (Post 17723435)

I was not given any other option than to go through the body scanner. I don't know what would have happened if I objected but I wasn't out and out given a choice, no.

Woah. It should always be an option to opt out. TSA are such jerks (for the most part).

bhutocracy

11-24-2010 01:02 AM

Whilst completely acknowledging how ridiculous security in the US is and how annoying it is to even have to take off your shoes now, it's completely fascinating watching people complain about radiation from the machines. The ignorance shown is astounding.

Firstly, there are two types of machines, one doesn't use radiation, secondly, if you are worried about radiation, DON'T FLY. Complaining about backscatter imaging before flying is like complaining about the carcinogenic effect of the alcohol in one beer someone is forcing you to drink before you get to drink your 150 beers. Flying irradiates the shit out of you. Does no one know this?

Sly	11-24-2010 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash (Post 17723435)

I was not given any other option than to go through the body scanner. I don't know what would have happened if I objected but I wasn't out and out given a choice, no.

Nobody is really given a choice. You have to outright request it. It isn't "open disclosure" like the TSA makes it sound in the news.

Relentless

11-24-2010 06:57 AM

Nobody flys more than JFK...

If the policy stays in place he is going to have sore balls from rough TSA agents and enough radiation to make his mustache fall off. :(

Sarah_Jayne

11-24-2010 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 17724417)

Nobody flys more than JFK...

If the policy stays in place he is going to have sore balls from rough TSA agents and enough radiation to make his mustache fall off. :(

:1orglaugh

McSpike

11-24-2010 08:44 AM

People, there will be no boycotting. There will be no protests. There will however be a ton of patriot terrorist scared people in line approving everything and anything the govt says is good for their safety. So do yourself a favor and accept everything they give you. The sooner the better.

What I don't however understand is why don't the evil bad terrorists blow up buses. Can you imagine having all the petting and scanning done before you enter a bus. The money spent on the safety...

It's a free country. And you get to glow in the dark, too.

CaptainHowdy

11-24-2010 08:45 AM

Being molested can sometimes be a good thing...

cwd	11-24-2010 08:52 AM

its all about the money, plain and simple.

After the arrest of the underwear bomber last Christmas, (former U.S. Homeland Security chief Michael) Chertoff hit the airwaves and wrote an op-ed in The Washington Post advocating the full-body scanning systems without disclosing that Rapiscan Systems was a client of his firm. The aborted terror plot prompted the Transportation Security Agency to order 300 machines from Rapiscan. Yet last spring, the Government Accountability Office reported that, "It remains unclear whether [the scanners] would have been able to detect the weapon" used in the aborted bombing attempt. And according to a recent report by DHS's Inspector General, the training of airport screeners is rushed and poorly supervised.

In the past year and a half, $118 million in stimulus funds have been used to buy technology from Rapiscan, but all that money hasn't produced many jobs -- the ostensible purpose of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. In fact, it accounts for only 84 positions, according to a HuffPost analysis of government data, meaning roughly $1.4 million was spent to create each job.

Rapiscan has upped its lobbying expenditures in recent years, spending $271,500 so far this year compared to $80,000 five years ago, USA Today reports.

McSpike

11-24-2010 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cwd (Post 17724677)

its all about the money, plain and simple.

amen. funny tho, people are worried about the scan, the radiation, the pat downs, but rarely anyone sees the connection.

FEAR = MONEY.

Sausage

11-24-2010 09:55 AM

#1 reason why i have cancelled my 2011 USA trip.

You guys are turning into a police state.

SpicyM

11-24-2010 11:16 AM

Whats the deal? The scanner does not show a pussy or dick, just the underwear so I wouldnt be that uncomfortable about it?

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