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Oswald was def involved. That is pretty much a fact. Whether he was a patsy or mind controlled or had others behind him or had other shooters is the q.
He def had ties to Cuba. He def had ties to Russia. He def was anti American. This is all pretty much fact if you watch the HIS channel. But from there who knows. Personally I think he acted alone. He was very smug and thought he would get his upcoming days of fame in court. His life had fallen apart and he was on a self destructive mission. The morning he woke up and the details of that day are facinating. He does seem like a good mind control puppet tho. Then if you throw in Jack Ruby it gets even more interesting. He probably killed Officer Tibbet but certainly ran into the theatre. And he was running around outside in the afternoon after 1:30pm when he had a job. I think he was the only shooter but may have had ties somewhere. Pretty wild deal. Guy shooting a rifle out of the 6th floor corner window with all them people around and then he had to get out of there quick. Very interesting stuff. |
He doesnt seem stupid and could not have believed he could escape unless maybe his mind was a bit controlled and lots of that going on back then.
Maybe he was a secret drug taker. Did they ever do an autopsy. I dont think so. It is just too wack that he thought he could escape and pull this off. Either he wanted to get caught (unlikely, remember the black eye from the struggle in the theatre) OR he was on something OR mind controlled OR.. just a nut. Straight as an arrow, who thought he could out think any prosicution. Remember the guy who talked to him in the elevator that morning. "what is that?" (wrapped in cloth) "curtain rods" |
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http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/v...g?t=1290113235 That explains your current cover, traipsing around the globe as a porn event photographer on a Canadian passport - clever...very clever! Can you give us a hint as to who your next target is, or would you have to (gulp) kill me? YIKES!!! :helpme <smiles and slowly backs out of thread> ADG |
Clearly none of you watched Red Dwarf.
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Hamburgers and cola as most americans.
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Not sure where your going. I may need more than 3 words. :) |
Not everything has to be, or will be spelled out. I may have other ideas but I def would not be posting them in public.
That is as specific as I go. :) |
We all killed JFK, each and every one of us.
Psych! I didn't but i'm sure alot of you had something to do with it. |
I've been really into JFK's assassination for years, and I've read a lot of books, been to Dealey Plaza more than once (I used to live in Dallas), seen documentaries and Oliver Stone's "truth", been to actual seminars, and on and on...and if you listen to all the conspiracies, after a while it just gets to be too much. Ridiculous. And the more you listen to the conspiracies (especially the really far-out ones) the weaker the Conspiracy Theorists get.
My grandfather was a great handy man, and he always told me fixing things was easy...as long as you had the right tool. Got a problem with The President, and you wanna fix it? Would your tool be a cheap, bolt-action, single-shot rifle? And don't forget, Oswald was a military man and knew guns. In addition, Oswald knew that if he missed, there's probably NEVER gonna be another chance to take fix the problem, cause The Secret Service will be taken to a whole new level of security. So, do you pick the cheap, mail-order rifle as your tool...if it's just you? |
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He was a character tho and therin lies all the mystigue. Looking at that little room he rented (wasnt he apart from his wife or such at that time) would make ya flip out. Also it was shown he already took a shot at some Senator or such who lived a mile away and just missed him. Sorry little stale on my info and names but he did shoot at some political figure about a yerar before who lived about a mile away. Prob trying out the new rifle obviously. No doubt the rifle left behind was his. We all agree it was him in the corner of the 6th floor beyond any doubt. He def could have got off four shots, he def got one off, and prob one of them hit the President, which is enuf for me. I really doubt there was another gun on the grassy knoll. Looks to me like he got hit from behind twice. Simple as that. Lee Harvey Oswald killed John Fitzgerald Kennedy and was the only trigger man. Apart from that.. there are other possible conspiracy "support" theories that seem plausable. |
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Plus I think the sound of at least three shots has been substantiated by multiple eyewitness coming from that window. That is proof someone was popping out rounds out of that window and it wasnt Uncle Charlie who works on the same floor. It was Lee Harvey Oswald. Rapping off all 4 shots with military precision as he had trained and practiced many times to do. |
Any fucking idiot who looks at what happened can quickly figure it out.
Oswald fired a shot, hitting the curb, missing. He might have fired a second shot, but also missed. The Secret Service - armed with Machine Guns including Uzis - pulled out their guns, opps, one fired - directly into the back of the head of JFK. Think about it. It's the only explanation that makes any sense. It explains everything, including the magic bullet. It was covered up because it was "in the best interests of the country" to explain it by saying it was a long sniper who got lucky instead of saying "the agency assigned to protect him killed him by accident". |
I just think he could have easily got four shots off. Werent there like 3-4 cartrideges found. I am fuzzy so I should bow out of the debate but I just think a good military marksman and someone on a mission could easily get four off and hit him twice. They showed it being done on some show. Bolt action rifle. Easily done. He prob did hit the curb. But he got off all 4 shots and 2 hit him. The last shot was almost straight ahead.
Now the way the head jerks is one thing where I never really heard the answer on. It does seem to jerk first forward then opposite as it goes way back violently. Now was that from "reverse inertia" as it were? I think that has been put forward and should be easy to prove. Guess I have to watch another Kennedy show. i got a couple recorded I havent watched yet. :) |
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gun (notice the scope) sitting there, 3-4 cartridges, no Oswald that is smoking gun exhibit A. Exhibit B is the scope. When the target was virtually straight ahead (4th shot) that is a sure 999/1000 shot for someone of Oswalds shooting skills at that distance with a trained in scope and vrtually not enough lead time to matter. And that was the shot he hit em with. Not someone on the knowl or in front IF someone can explain the head movement a bit better. Didnt mythbusters or someone do that. Been a few years. I'll go do some research to find out how many cartridges found. If it was 4 (and I think it was) then Oswald hit him last shot. Results: 3 cases found all positively linked to LHO's rifle. That fact got by me somehow. I thought there were 4 cases. Still 2 for 3? Vvery easy to do. |
I feel if they were gonna do this, you really thing LHO could work with operatives in 1963? Other trigger men.
Possible, but I'm going with he was the lone gunman. The guy I find most facinating, maybe of all time except maybe Manson or someone is LHO. I have seen all the history on LHO's movements the last year before. I just doubt he was meeting with anyone and if he was it was as simple as "you, LHO, do this for us or for $$." There was no hit group that LHO was meeting or hanging out with IMO. He may have been slipped some $$ (he needed it) but I think he just seen the opportunity and it all came together in only his mind. Maybe Oswald grabbed one of the 4 cartridges. Wouldn't you? Why only one? Cause that is how he planned it. Time to spot one. Cartridge 4 got tossed by LHO down a sewer. |
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The magic bullet is simply LHO pocketing one shot. But I'm going to go view this thing again.
Maybe this better quality version has those two (admittedly suspicious, Secret Service agents) in a more clear light. I hate gore. But OK lets keep an eye on those agents as that would explain the head goiung backward. Cause i have shot about every gun and never seen reverse inertia with those extremes. Thus I feel you have a good case saying he may have been hit from the front. It makes sense. Hey I'm learning. I was a good student. I will get to the bottom of this. Tonight. :) |
Well at 26 secs he gets hit and at 29 it sure looks like he gets blasted from the right front. There is real no way to argue that. Maybe you have converted me from the lone gunman theory. The ole Zapruder film was fuzzy, and I bought into the reverse inertia mullarky, but this one is way more clear. Actually I never bought into the revese head movement BS. That was the one doubt that I knew destroys Oswald. But it was fuzzy. No longer. Back to square one. |
there is a PC game where you can shoot kennedy and its realisticlly setup
to prove its doable |
https://youtube.com/watch?v=skWkIehovA8
can someone fix that for me so it is in the post i dont know how to do it |
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So Oswald is running down staircases, out the bldg, AWOL from work, carrying a pistol like a lunatic, running into an Officer who spots him, killing the Officer, then hiding in a theatre like some idiot. It is all a bit strange.
It makes sense if he is the lone nutcase. But the partner in crime? He had to be a partner, or a patsy more like it, as it could not be coincidence someone is trying to also kill JFK that day. Like a nutcase, while the other shooter(s) quietly dissapeer into history. I can see the meeting: "Lee, you will be 6 floors up where you work. Just grab one bullet." [I mean what did they tell this guy to ESCAPE?] "Sam, you will be under the manhole. You should be able to get away. Lee, you should be able to get away too." "That OK with you Lee?" "Ahh yeah, man whats in this drink? Sure whatever you say..." Jack Ruby? That is when it got strange(r). But I will leave it to the next guy to explain Ruby's involvement. |
http://jackruby.com/ (parked) :)
Jack Ruby. What a name. With a name like that you are destined for something BIG. http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/a...cut/Ruby13.jpg 47 years ago tonight, Jack Ruby was minding his adult nightclub as always. Did he have any knowledge of things to come in the next 72 hours? http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/a...ocut/Ruby6.jpg http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/a...cut/Ruby21.jpg http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/a...ocut/Ruby3.jpg http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/a...cut/Ruby17.jpg http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/a...cut/Ruby16.jpg http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/a...ocut/Ruby1.jpg http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/Ruby.htm |
My guess is that the original poster just got done playing the COD Black Ops campaign...
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