So what do people sell in mainstream?

[Machete_]

All this talk about great ratios and piles of cash without any real info. So what kind of products mainstream webmasters make money on? What do they sell?

Asking for a friend.

[iSpyCams]

They sell ebooks to each other about how to make money as a mainstream webmaster.

That and DVD's about how to make ebooks.

[mechanicvirus]

[Coup]

Originally Posted by mechanicvirus

interesting

[Agent 488]

ask that mr frisky guy. he says he is making in a killing in mainstream right now.

i am just trying to figure out what sells myself.

[KillerK]

penis pills

[anexsia]

Things to make your penis 12 feet long.

[Vox]

E books about how to make e books.

[kostas]

Originally Posted by pompousjohn

They sell ebooks to each other about how to make money as a mainstream webmaster.

That and DVD's about how to make ebooks.

Right

[Kiopa_Matt]

Originally Posted by pompousjohn

They sell ebooks to each other about how to make money as a mainstream webmaster.

That and DVD's about how to make ebooks.

That's pretty much it, yep.

Nah, mainstream is simple, really. Find some niche that isn't too saturated (stadium bleachers, clothes for dogs, special kinky lotion, or whatever), pickup a few domains, throw up some sites that are constantly updated with fresh content, SEO the sites, add some lead capture forms, spam the shit out of your leads, and sell as an affiliate or via some supplier. Rinse & repeat 200 times over, and you'll make some coin.

I should sell a $7 ebook now explaining that.

[Django]

[alias]

Originally Posted by Kiopa_Matt

That's pretty much it, yep.

Nah, mainstream is simple, really. Find some niche that isn't too saturated (stadium bleachers, clothes for dogs, special kinky lotion, or whatever), pickup a few domains, throw up some sites that are constantly updated with fresh content, SEO the sites, and sell as an affiliate or via some supplier. Rinse & repeat 200 times over, and you'll make some coin.

I should sell a $7 ebook now explaining that.

How much should each site make? Pennies a day, a dollar or 2, when to repeat?

[Paul&John]

Originally Posted by pompousjohn

They sell ebooks to each other about how to make money as a mainstream webmaster.

That and DVD's about how to make ebooks.

I checked out some mainstream boards and most of the people are pusing:
- ebooks about hot to make money (the same you mentioned)
- selling real physical products via amazon/linkshare/cj
- building blogs/sites for adsense earnings
....

[grumpy]

use your brains

[Kiopa_Matt]

Originally Posted by alias

How much should each site make? Pennies a day, a dollar or 2, when to repeat?

No idea, never done it before. I'm not about to bust my ass for a few hundred a month.

[zeuse]

Originally Posted by mechanicvirus

Joey boots is my hero.

[Machete_]

Originally Posted by grumpy

use your brains

go fuck your mother

[alias]

I personally think the way to go is make a product, not rely on affiliate programs. Create one after you are selling your product.

This brings us back to the thread topic: What to sell?

[Jack Sparrow]

Originally Posted by Machete_

All this talk about great ratios and piles of cash without any real info. So what kind of products mainstream webmasters make money on? What do they sell?

Asking for a friend.

Why would anyone help a dumbass like you out. "For a friend", LOL
Im actually glad losers like you stay in adult trying to figure out whats making money.

Originally Posted by Agent 488

ask that mr frisky guy. he says he is making in a killing in mainstream right now.

i am just trying to figure out what sells myself.

Lol. If i say "im doing pretty good in mainstream" people like yourself cant help turning it into some arrogant "frisky is killing it" statement.

I pray to god people stay in adult as long as possible. Its SO enlighting to roam around the mainstream forums where people can conversate like adults and help eachother out instead of bitching crying and trashing eachother.

[JD]

how long is a piece of string?

[Klen]

Originally Posted by Paul&John

I checked out some mainstream boards and most of the people are pusing:
- ebooks about hot to make money (the same you mentioned)
- selling real physical products via amazon/linkshare/cj
- building blogs/sites for adsense earnings
....

Yep most of those sites which offer "earn money on internet" is basically nothing else then explain how to build website,get hosting traffic and then sale same shit for which you paid money to get it.I actually paid once 10$ for fun on such site,and it's not bad but the fact is it doesn't anything what cant be find on regular forums.

[iSpyCams]

Jokes aside, I was wondering this myself.

I would like to expand out of adult as well, and it strikes me that when you strip down what adult is, it's selling intangibles through card-not-present transactions.

If there were no nekkid people involved it would be mainstream, and a whole new world of advertising possibilities would open up.

The question is what to sell?

[BruceM]

Originally Posted by mechanicvirus

"PENIS!"

And, among other things, herbal products like we have in http://www.Sellhealth.com move well.

[Kiopa_Matt]

Originally Posted by alias

I personally think the way to go is make a product, not rely on affiliate programs. Create one after you are selling your product.

Nah, affiliate programs are good for mainstream. For example, sell Amazon products, or BestBuy products, or whatever. Just don't let the people buying it know that.

Originally Posted by alias

This brings us back to the thread topic: What to sell?

Anything and everything. Those hot dog vendor carts, or nail polish, or dog tick insecticide, or popup tents, or whatever. You have to do your research, and find something that isn't too saturated, and you think you'll be able to get good SERP. People need all sorts of shit, so anything & everything. Then put up some sites, contract out to the Phillippines to get articles written, and your site updated with fresh content. If you manage to get in the top 5 positions in Google for search terms, you'll make some sales. Then rinse & repeat a few hundred times over.

Or just sell leads. Put up some of those "Enter your e-mail & zip to win a free plasma TV" sites. Sell the leads for say $0.80 each, advertise via PPC for say $0.12 per click, and you'll probably get a 60 - 70% conversion ratio.

Start an online food delivery site for your city / state / country, and partner with all the restarants in the area. Charge a per-listing fee, and hype up your site as the next big thing. Create a commission based sales force to do the selling for you.

There's loads of shit you can do...

[Machete_]

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

Why would anyone help a dumbass like you out. "For a friend", LOL

I see sarcasm is not lost on you.

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

I pray to god people stay in adult as long as possible. Its SO enlighting to roam around the mainstream forums where people can conversate like adults and help eachother out instead of bitching crying and trashing eachother.

Yeah, that's why you stay here, spamming your bullshit traffic sale deals. How many nicks have you burned through already? Yep, porn boards suck.

Idiot.

[ottopottomouse]

Originally Posted by Kiopa_Matt

I should sell a $7 ebook now explaining that.

Can I have a review copy please Sir?

[signupdamnit]

I'm researching it more now because my goal is 33% mainstream (and 33% cams/dating + 34% paysites) by the end of 2011. I used to do quite a bit in mainstream many years ago but it was a different time then (pets.com, etc). Ironically I left mainstream affiliate marketing in 2000 because adult was more profitable.

One thing I notice is that the conventional wisdom even today is basically that if you send 200 uniques and don't make a conversion, stop promoting it because it isn't worth it. This alone shows you an apparent major difference between mainstream and adult. Imagine doing that in adult. Well it used to be common....but back in 1999.

[alias]

I guess the concern I have is that people say sell whatever you want but we have watched that fold before when the dotcom bubble burst years ago.

Are people really making coin on e-dogleash.com or actually just banking off ringtones, dick pills, acai, neutra continuity and other scammy offers while saying they make money selling tangible shit most people buy in stores.

[Pipecrew]

one of my mainstream sites sold 450 bucks worth of shit on amazon last week, My cool commission check from them was 27 dollars.

[Chezter]

Hmm I try mainstream, but I have still the same problem. When i build porn blog, I get links from directories and after some time visitors from google starts to come. When I build some mainstream site I just don't know where to get those links like links from directories in adult and that is limiting my efforts in mainstream.

[stocktrader23]

Herbals and any make money online stuff have been selling like hotcakes for a long time now. Other than that, there are literally so many options that it's impossible to even start. What do YOU want to sell?

[signupdamnit]

Originally Posted by alias

I guess the concern I have is that people say sell whatever you want but we have watched that fold before when the dotcom bubble burst years ago.

Are people really making coin on e-dogleash.com or actually just banking off ringtones, dick pills, acai, neutra continuity and other scammy offers while saying they make money selling tangible shit most people buy in stores.

I've observed that MANY are doing the questionable stuff like payday loans. People making good money in a certain mainstream niche will generally not talk because they don't want 10,000 hungry adult webmasters flooding their market. At least not if they are smart.

[Kiopa_Matt]

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

I pray to god people stay in adult as long as possible. Its SO enlighting to roam around the mainstream forums where people can conversate like adults and help eachother out instead of bitching crying and trashing eachother.

I actually really enjoy adult, but maybe I just got lucky with my clients. It has this "no fucking around" attitude to it. People don't care about being politically correct or polite. They just want the job done, done right, and get some business done, so you can continue to do more business together.

Not like mainstream, where they kick their feet around, and hmmm and hawww. That, and loads of people are just idiots. For example, I've even had clients tell me they want to sell poodles (yes, the live ones) over the internet before. Wanted to start up an affiliate program to sell poodles.

[alias]

Originally Posted by Pipecrew

one of my mainstream sites sold 450 bucks worth of shit on amazon last week, My cool commission check from them was 27 dollars.

My results with amazon were equally dismal, can't see it being good for anything other than telling people this is how you make monies online as a cover.

Or, if you were cookie stuffing but that ship has long since sailed.

[Robbie]

I've never been able to sell much of anything online in "mainstream"
Especially now with the economy in the shitter and the draconian new credit card rules that mainstream brought down on all of us with THEIR aggressive x-sell and shady tactics.

Anyway, for whatever reason, it doesn't matter what I promote that's "mainstream" it just doesn't convert. The people I seem to get surfing just don't have much interest in buying stuff online...or they are smartened up (probably the real reason) and google the shit up themselves instead of clicking my links.

I will admit though that I haven't yet done an email campaign on mainstream...but that would be because I keep getting refused by the affiliate programs of the two products that I want to push. The rest of the crap I'm pushing isn't stuff I'd want to blow my load on an email campaign for.

[Jack Sparrow]

Originally Posted by Machete_

I see sarcasm is not lost on you.


Yeah, that's why you stay here, spamming your bullshit traffic sale deals. How many nicks have you burned through already? Yep, porn boards suck.

Idiot.

In case you didnt notice: I used to be on gfy 24/7, then the anonymous losers came in and made gfy what it is now. A bunch of haters, trolls, pimp wannabe's who rather trash eachother and destroy the industry thats feeding them instead of working together. These days, i only check gfy 1-2 times to see brokeass kids like you posting silly threads about topics or people they dont know shit about.

Show me some of those faknicks you accuse me of having? Or show me those tradethreads a recently made?

Oh thats right, you cant because you are so full of it

Kids like you wouldnt last a day on the mainstream forums, and boy am i glad for that.

[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by alias

I guess the concern I have is that people say sell whatever you want but we have watched that fold before when the dotcom bubble burst years ago.

Are people really making coin on e-dogleash.com or actually just banking off ringtones, dick pills, acai, neutra continuity and other scammy offers while saying they make money selling tangible shit most people buy in stores.

I know idiots that put up niche adwords sites and make $200 / day after only 5 months of effort. They are always growing so I'm sure it will be $400 / day before too long.

[Agent 488]

there are a million more suckers in mainstream that's for sure. i guess that's why it is profitable for some. people there believe any fucking thing.

[Jack Sparrow]

Ps. Im doing 1:60 on 1 of my first mainstream websites.
Its thinking outside the box that counts. That and some work.

If you didnt get beyond the "mainstream is all about ebooks and mailling list", you probably wont get far.

[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

there are a million more suckers in mainstream that's for sure. i guess that's why it is profitable for some. people there believe any fucking thing.

The people that buy the ebooks you are talking about aren't like you. They are happy to pay $500 to learn how to put in real work and make even $20 to $60 per day. If those ebooks are worth it to them then I would have no problem selling them.

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

Ps. Im doing 1:60 on 1 of my first mainstream websites.
Its thinking outside the box that counts. That and some work.

If you didnt get beyond the "mainstream is all about ebooks and mailling list", you probably wont get far.

Mainstream is so hard to explain because what can't you do?

[Jack Sparrow]

Exactly my point.. But hey, dont give them to much info. I dont know you but if you are in mainstream, for the sake of it, dont tempt these fake losers like machete to cross over.

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

The people that buy the ebooks you are talking about aren't like you. They are happy to pay $500 to learn how to put in real work and make even $20 to $60 per day. If those ebooks are worth it to them then I would have no problem selling them.



Mainstream is so hard to explain because what can't you do?

[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

Exactly my point.. But hey, dont give them to much info. I dont know you but if you are in mainstream, for the sake of it, dont tempt these fake losers like machete to cross over.

I'm just amused by the divide. I can see how stupid a lot of stuff would look but once you dig a bit deeper it makes sense.

[wehateporn]

I know a couple of mainstreamers. One had a magic site where he sold magic tricks, after he had paid for his adwords he was barely breaking even.
Another guy I knew would cookie stuff in forums to make money from eBay, he got a few $300 cheques through then they cancelled his account
I also knew an over 60 guy who constantly joins "How to Get Rich" websites, with one of them he paid $10,000 for their videos which turned out to be a waste of time, he asked for his money back but they never replied, he sees it as a good learning experience. He still joins the same type of 'Get Rich' sites and tries to get other 'Get Rich' people signed underneath him, then all the 'Get Rich' people wait for the next such site to open up so as they can scramble to get in first.

[alias]

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

Ps. Im doing 1:60 on 1 of my first mainstream websites.
Its thinking outside the box that counts. That and some work.

If you didnt get beyond the "mainstream is all about ebooks and mailling list", you probably wont get far.

What is the average net for that 1:60 if you don't mind me asking.

[Paul&John]

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Yep most of those sites which offer "earn money on internet" is basically nothing else then explain how to build website,get hosting traffic and then sale same shit for which you paid money to get it.I actually paid once 10$ for fun on such site,and it's not bad but the fact is it doesn't anything what cant be find on regular forums.

Yap those e-books are usually collections of stuff what is freely available on the internet (basic seo etc). Haven't bought any of those, but I think it's that

But again there are some guys who do really make money by selling real products via linkshare (higher commission then via amazon). For example by building 3-4 page minisites only about one product and using special promo codes to have a better price then at other places.

[CyberHustler]

http://affiliate.asseenontv.com/ converts better for me than anything in adult, true story. I gave you guys that one for free, anything else and you'll have to buy my ebook and a dvd about how to read it the correct way.

[PornMD]

I sell domains in mainstream. Have made from a 50% loss to a 40000% profit per sale, and made as much as $51,000 profit on a sale.

It can be lucrative, but it's verrry tough. There's not many people who do it for a living, and probably less today than a few years ago.

[PornMD]

Originally Posted by NanoBot

http://affiliate.asseenontv.com/ converts better for me than anything in adult, true story. I gave you guys that one for free, anything else and you'll have to buy my ebook and a dvd about how to read it the correct way.

You should combine the two - advertise AsSeenOnTV stuff on adult sites. ShamWow holds up to 50 times its weight in jizz.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by Kiopa_Matt

Nah, affiliate programs are good for mainstream. For example, sell Amazon products, or BestBuy products, or whatever. Just don't let the people buying it know that.



Anything and everything. Those hot dog vendor carts, or nail polish, or dog tick insecticide, or popup tents, or whatever. You have to do your research, and find something that isn't too saturated, and you think you'll be able to get good SERP. People need all sorts of shit, so anything & everything. Then put up some sites, contract out to the Phillippines to get articles written, and your site updated with fresh content. If you manage to get in the top 5 positions in Google for search terms, you'll make some sales. Then rinse & repeat a few hundred times over.

Or just sell leads. Put up some of those "Enter your e-mail & zip to win a free plasma TV" sites. Sell the leads for say $0.80 each, advertise via PPC for say $0.12 per click, and you'll probably get a 60 - 70% conversion ratio.

Start an online food delivery site for your city / state / country, and partner with all the restarants in the area. Charge a per-listing fee, and hype up your site as the next big thing. Create a commission based sales force to do the selling for you.

There's loads of shit you can do...

Bravo fine sire. Bravo....

[Machete_]

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

Ps. Im doing 1:60 on 1 of my first mainstream websites. Its thinking outside the box that counts.

Translation: "I was outed as a complete hack and idiot in the porn biz and chased off GFY board, so now I make up a story pretending to have moved on to mainstream making a killing there with little effort. Hurr durr! everyone are too stupid to see through my genious trolling!"