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11-14-2010, 05:46 PM

San Francisco residents may vote on a ballot measure next year that would outlaw circumcision.

The initiative, which requires 7,000 signatures before it can be added to next November's ballot, would make it a misdemeanor to "circumcise, excise, cut or mutilate the...genitals" of all minors, and would not make exceptions for religious reasons.

The decision to permanently remove a boy's foreskin should not be made by parents, says Lloyd Shofield, the proposal's author.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/1..._n_783191.html
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11-14-2010, 05:50 PM

Glad my dick got cut back in the 80's when it was ok to make penises look normal.
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11-14-2010, 05:52 PM

Can you say snausages??

Though I heard uncircumsized men have more intense orgasms?
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11-14-2010, 05:54 PM

Originally posted by amateurbfs

glad my dick got cut back in the 80's when it was ok to make penises look normal.

lmfao!!!! Bahahahhaha
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11-14-2010, 05:56 PM

Good thing I got mine done before this BS. Btw, this won't happen because it will have religious and health care opposers.
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11-14-2010, 05:58 PM

Originally posted by TCLGirls

Can you say snausages??

Though I heard uncircumsized men have more intense orgasms?

2/3 of boys born in the US have those "snausages" now. Only 32% were circumcised in 2009.
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11-14-2010, 06:07 PM

Seems like Lloyd Shofield spends too much time thinking about boys dicks.

It won't pass anyway.
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11-14-2010, 06:07 PM

Should be left to the decision of the boy once he's older

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11-14-2010, 06:12 PM

Stop the cuts ;)
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11-14-2010, 06:13 PM

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11-14-2010, 06:14 PM

Originally posted by Sarah_MaxCash

Stop the cuts ;)

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11-14-2010, 06:26 PM

Originally posted by Monique Niccole

Seems like Lloyd Shofield spends too much time thinking about boys dicks.

It won't pass anyway.

I've always thought that a circumcised penis looked better, but that is what I have been looking down at my whole life...

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11-14-2010, 06:34 PM

What you think it's for looks? It's not a haircut...
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11-14-2010, 06:36 PM

Oh no, the mass deaths of uncut penis men must be prevented some how...

If only they would understand that cutting off their natural born skin would keep them from dieing or living such horrendous lives

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11-14-2010, 06:40 PM

Originally posted by TidalWave

Oh no, the mass deaths of uncut penis men must be prevented some how...

If only they would understand that cutting off their natural born skin would keep them from dieing or living such horrendous lives

Some of the recent studies from WHO should throw this whole petition out the window.

This must be up there with banning Happy Meals.

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11-14-2010, 06:42 PM

Originally posted by amateurbfs

Glad my dick got cut back in the 80's when it was ok to make penises look normal.

You will not look normal in 18 yrs.

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11-14-2010, 06:49 PM

My boys are all cleancut as is their father. Im not sure if they are happy with it or not.. I stopped inspecting for germs after age 5 granting privacy in the bath.

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11-14-2010, 06:54 PM

Circumcision is better for not getting STDs I thought?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15593753...th-mens_health

With all the sex going on in that part of the world, shouldn't they push for more circumcisions?
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11-14-2010, 06:56 PM

I've lived in Europe, so I don't have a vehement opposition to foreskins or anything, but that seems like an effed up thing for government to be all up in, especially when there is a religious issue for so many cultures.

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11-14-2010, 07:08 PM

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11-14-2010, 07:14 PM

Originally posted by AmeliaG

I've lived in Europe, so I don't have a vehement opposition to foreskins or anything, but that seems like an effed up thing for government to be all up in, especially when there is a religious issue for so many cultures.

I agree, the government shouldn't be getting involved in shit like this

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11-14-2010, 07:27 PM

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11-14-2010, 08:14 PM

So what is next..a law against plastic surgery? tattoos? piercings? hair dye?

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11-14-2010, 08:26 PM

Uncut penises are downright scary looking and can be extremely unsanitary if not kept clean.

Who would vote for that?

Plus, adult circumcisions are much more painful than having it done as a baby and getting the crying over with 5 minutes later.
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11-14-2010, 09:40 PM

Do we have to have this discussion every time that there is a story about circumcision? There is nothing wrong with a well kept uncut penis. Just like an unclean man that just so happens to be cut isn't going to have an appealing penis regardless of his lack of foreskin. There is no need to circumcise men as standard practice. Both kinds of penises are great when they are attached to somebody that knows how to take care of them and use them, The weird 'fear' of foreskin is just irrational.
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11-14-2010, 09:43 PM

I seen alot of peepees.... oh pls dont ask me what I think..

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11-14-2010, 10:01 PM

Originally posted by Sarah_MaxCash

Do we have to have this discussion every time that there is a story about circumcision? There is nothing wrong with a well kept uncut penis. Just like an unclean man that just so happens to be cut isn't going to have an appealing penis regardless of his lack of foreskin. There is no need to circumcise men as standard practice. Both kinds of penises are great when they are attached to somebody that knows how to take care of them and use them, The weird 'fear' of foreskin is just irrational.

Thanks for your opinion. This has a lot to do about religion though. Oh, and you are the only person who brought the word "fear" up.
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11-14-2010, 10:07 PM

Originally posted by Alky

Thanks for your opinion. This has a lot to do about religion though. Oh, and you are the only person who brought the word "fear" up.

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11-14-2010, 10:14 PM

Originally posted by Alky

Thanks for your opinion. This has a lot to do about religion though. Oh, and you are the only person who brought the word "fear" up.

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11-14-2010, 10:37 PM

Originally posted by Alky

Thanks for your opinion. This has a lot to do about religion though. Oh, and you are the only person who brought the word "fear" up.

It isn't as if this conversation hasn't been had here many times before and more often than not what is said does come down to fear of the unknown. Sure, if there are religious reasons fine but there is no actual reason other than those made by man (such as religion) to circumcise. Now, do I think it should be against the law? No but I also don't see why it should be the standard. The best penis is the one attached to the person you are attracted to and if it is cut or not is just a detail.
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11-14-2010, 10:41 PM

Originally posted by Sarah_MaxCash

It isn't as if this conversation hasn't been had here many times before and more often than not what is said does come down to fear of the unknown. Sure, if there are religious reasons fine but there is no actual reason other than those made by man (such as religion) to circumcise. Now, do I think it should be against the law? No but I also don't see why it should be the standard. The best penis is the one attached to the person you are attracted to and if it is cut or not is just a detail.

What are the benefits of circumcision?

There is some evidence that circumcision has health benefits, including:

A decreased risk of urinary tract infections.
A reduced risk of sexually transmitted diseases in men.
Protection against penile cancer and a reduced risk of cervical cancer in female sex partners.
Prevention of balanitis (inflammation of the glans) and balanoposthitis (inflammation of the glans and foreskin).
Prevention of phimosis (the inability to retract the foreskin) and paraphimosis (the inability to return the foreskin to its original location).
Circumcision also makes it easier to keep the end of the penis clean.

http://www.webmd.com/sexual-conditio...e/circumcision
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11-14-2010, 10:49 PM

Originally posted by Sarah_MaxCash

It isn't as if this conversation hasn't been had here many times before and more often than not what is said does come down to fear of the unknown. Sure, if there are religious reasons fine but there is no actual reason other than those made by man (such as religion) to circumcise. Now, do I think it should be against the law? No but I also don't see why it should be the standard. The best penis is the one attached to the person you are attracted to and if it is cut or not is just a detail.

there has been all kinds of studies, and more often then not circumcised penises have less problems in the long run. for the gov to make it illegal, that's crazy plain and simple.
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11-14-2010, 10:52 PM

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I've always thought that a circumcised penis looked better, but that is what I have been looking down at my whole life...

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11-14-2010, 11:10 PM

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11-14-2010, 11:10 PM

Originally posted by Sarah_MaxCash

It isn't as if this conversation hasn't been had here many times before and more often than not what is said does come down to fear of the unknown. Sure, if there are religious reasons fine but there is no actual reason other than those made by man (such as religion) to circumcise. Now, do I think it should be against the law? No but I also don't see why it should be the standard. The best penis is the one attached to the person you are attracted to and if it is cut or not is just a detail.

You must be dating and/or married to a guy, or have a child who is uncircumcised..
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11-14-2010, 11:17 PM

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I've always thought that a circumcised penis looked better, but that is what I have been looking down at my whole life...

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All I was saying is my penis is attached to me, and I've sort of become attached to it.

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11-15-2010, 12:03 AM

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San Francisco residents may vote on a ballot measure next year that would outlaw circumcision.

The initiative, which requires 7,000 signatures before it can be added to next November's ballot, would make it a misdemeanor to "circumcise, excise, cut or mutilate the...genitals" of all minors, and would not make exceptions for religious reasons.

The decision to permanently remove a boy's foreskin should not be made by parents, says Lloyd Shofield, the proposal's author.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/1..._n_783191.html

Ok so chicks in SF will have a right to abort a baby, but not to get their babies circumsized?
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11-15-2010, 12:11 AM

Originally posted by amateurbfs

Glad my dick got cut back in the 80's when it was ok to make penises look normal.

That answer is so contorted, it's not even funny.

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11-15-2010, 12:21 AM

Originally posted by AzteK

What are the benefits of circumcision?

There is some evidence that circumcision has health benefits, including:

A decreased risk of urinary tract infections.
A reduced risk of sexually transmitted diseases in men.
Protection against penile cancer and a reduced risk of cervical cancer in female sex partners.
Prevention of balanitis (inflammation of the glans) and balanoposthitis (inflammation of the glans and foreskin).
Prevention of phimosis (the inability to retract the foreskin) and paraphimosis (the inability to return the foreskin to its original location).
Circumcision also makes it easier to keep the end of the penis clean.

http://www.webmd.com/sexual-conditio...e/circumcision

Yeah, you cut your arm off and you're less likely to get elbow cancer too.

PS I think it's totally cool for muslims to remove baby girls clitorises too, wouldn't want to stop someone's religious and cultural freedoms.

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11-15-2010, 01:15 AM

Originally posted by amateurbfs

Glad my dick got cut back in the 80's when it was ok to make penises look normal.

you are born with foreskin, a dick with foreskin is normal, that makes a circumcised one not normal. Interesting how it is now part of US culture to cut it off without any clear reason (like religion is the reason in other cultures), when it's not normal in all other western countries. Noone touches my cock with a knife!
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11-15-2010, 01:28 AM

Originally posted by nico-t

you are born with foreskin, a dick with foreskin is normal, that makes a circumcised one not normal. Interesting how it is now part of US culture to cut it off without any clear reason (like religion is the reason in other cultures), when it's not normal in all other western countries. Noone touches my cock with a knife!

Sorry but un-cut dicks are nasty. If I see a porno scene with some dude with an un-cut dick I shut it off. Fucking gross. Might as well show the girl fucking a great dane.

do you shave your face or cut you hair? That is doing something that is not "natural". facial hair is "natural", long hair is "natural" letting your finger nails grow is "natural" but I bet you cut those now don't you? Why are you going against nature? Oh yeah nature is fucking nasty. Same fags that are against circumcision because it's not "natural" shave/wax their fucking chest hair. hypocrite much?
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11-15-2010, 01:32 AM

Originally posted by Hotrocket

So what is next..a law against plastic surgery? tattoos? piercings? hair dye?

Ridiculous

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Yes, an adult woman deciding to put plastic in her tits, ink on her skin, metal in her body, is JUST the same as a parent mutilating their child.

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11-15-2010, 01:42 AM

I was cut when I was a kid and frankly I don't remember it. I couldn't even tell you when it happened.

I don't miss my foreskin.

And even though I dont agree with religion as a whole I definitely DO NOT agree with government stepping in and saying you can't practice your religion because we think it's mean to cut skin off.

Might as well make them leave the umbilical chord on.

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11-15-2010, 01:58 AM

Originally posted by GatorB

Sorry but un-cut dicks are nasty. If I see a porno scene with some dude with an un-cut dick I shut it off. Fucking gross. Might as well show the girl fucking a great dane.

do you shave your face or cut you hair? That is doing something that is not "natural". facial hair is "natural", long hair is "natural" letting your finger nails grow is "natural" but I bet you cut those now don't you? Why are you going against nature? Oh yeah nature is fucking nasty. Same fags that are against circumcision because it's not "natural" shave/wax their fucking chest hair. hypocrite much?

rediculous argument. Look i dont care about circumcision, im just saying that it is for a fact NOT normal, unlike what people who do it think it is. The definition of normal = what the majority does... and not what your personal experience is. If you got a cut dick you cant judge a non cut one and say its 'gross' thats brainwashed behavior. And trust me when looking at porn i dont see any difference between a hard cut or uncut cock. Its not that you see the foreskin hanging from the dickhead when its hard It looks like any other hard cock... ok this is too much cock talk for my likings but just pointing it out.

btw the resemblance with cutting hair, nails, shaving... that is grooming. Cutting off a part of your body that doenst grow back is more like cutting off a finger because 10 fingers are too much to type, or slicing away your sack around your balls so they have more room to breathe.

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11-15-2010, 02:19 AM

What a load of BS.

Don't US politicians have bigger problems to concern themselves with?

Anyway good luck with this guy getting backing from the Jewish community in the future, he just fucked that vote and money.

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11-15-2010, 02:29 AM

everyone will say what they have is better..all i can say is thank god this barbaric ritual is not (so much) practiced in eu as it is in usa. i mean ok, in theory it could be beneficial to hygiene but that was mostly true in ancient times and in mostly for poor people..if you wash you cock regularly you have no problems.

what is gross and what not can be debated - erect cock is probably little more aesthetically looking than erect uncut but circumcised flaccid cock just looks ridiculous..

like every skin that is not protected by something hardens. so there are theories that circumcision takes away some sensation on the most sensitive part pf the penis.So giving away sensation for aesthetic reasons - no thank you.

and lastly and most importantly - i cant but pity some male porn stars when i see them jerking off with circumsized cocks.(straight porn) god it is pathetic and painful to watch when they cant jerk properly since there is no skin to move and what they do is just kinda squeeze their cock with their hand or move the skin they have left 1cm up or down ,damn this looks so painful...

"no amount of money" would make me cripple the most pleasurable part of my body!

But since we cant have both we usually dont know how other party feels or what they are "missing" so we just see positive things in our situation..

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11-15-2010, 04:29 AM

I don't think I've ever heard a cut guy say "man, that hurt so much when I was a baby I can't believe they subjected me to such barbarianism!"

I've never heard a cut guy argue against being cut either.

So who exactly is filing all of these complaints? Who is upset by this? Is it a group of guys that was cut that wish they never were cut? Or is it a group of people, non-cut, that need something to bitch about?

Also, comparing male circumcision to female seems a bit of a stretch. Are there any long term side effects of male circumcision? I haven't found any text indicating the male version has anything like the female version does.

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11-15-2010, 04:30 AM

I at least appreciate the fact that so many retarded idiots gathered to live in one city, so I can avoid them all.
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