Where do you live? Mutilateyourbabyville?

I live in the small town of "People Who Mind Their Own Fucking Business and Have Better Shit To Worry About".

My fiance is circumcised, as is my 9-year-old son... and I still agree with Sarah.

Why isn't circumcision on boys considered sexual mutilation just as circumcision on girls is? Does anyone know?

there's a thing called evolution, that has decided that the penis is healthier with a foreskin. end of story. if it wasn't beneficial we wouldn't have one.

Calling a circumcision a mutilation is the dumbest fucking thing I've heard this year...

It's like calling a face lift or liposuction mutilation...

Personally, I find uncut cocks pretty revolting... but that's just me. Either way to outlaw it is absolutely ridiculous.

That's not even a valid argument. That's like saying we should just toss out all medicines and surgical procedures because evolution didn't create them... Give me a fucking break.

if you understood what evolutiuon was you would know it was a valid argument. medicines and surgery help out when things go wrong. your circumsising when there's no medical need.

I have an appendix and tonsils.

Good for you, the tonsils protect you against infection and the appendix has been found to "Researchers in the United States say the appendix produces and protects good germs for the gut by "rebooting" the digestive system".

anything that we have on our body that we don't need is left over from a time when we did need it, like the coccyx.

Wow, circumcision is crazy.

How are people for cutting off a part of the body?

funny you say that.. do you think female circumcision is barbaric?

I don't think there is anyone in here that would call female circumcision a safe, logical medical practice yet its the EXACT same thing that happens to males when they are born and their parents decide on that.

My boys still have their hood. I learned that it use to be 80/20 in favor of getting circumcised and recently it has been more like 50/50. They have also removed the duty from the hospital, you get your kid's hood clipped off in a doctor's office now as they are pinned to a table. You can thank the health insurance companies for that, gets them more money and another copay for the visit.

The only reason people in the US do it is for cosmetic reasons. Bullshit, leave as it should be.

And I'm convinced uncircumcised penises are bigger.

read the entire article.. it also states that unless you are deserted on an island away from any people you get these 'good germs' from other people anyway and because most people live in cities, towns or communities these days renders it useless and that's why they often go bad and need to be removed.

Mine was removed a year ago and they said it was dead for about six months before they took it out, probably for that very reason.

You should just SEE the GERMS that women with clits have. It's SICK. I say cut off all clits now. It's for their own good. And looks so much smoother.

my thinking is this is more directed at 'female circumcision'

Why is everyone blaming the government here? This is some guy trying to get enough signatures together. I'm sure he'll succeed but even then it has to pass a vote in SF. Even then the blame should be on the people of SF not the government.

If the government was preventing this from getting on the ballot then I'd have a problem. Not because I agree with the anti-circumcision crowd but because the people should have a right to put whatever on a ballot if they get the proper signatures.

i have heard of circumcised men unable to enjoy the fruitful benefits of a blow job

My dick is not cut, and couldn't care less. People and their obsession with cut or uncut is really weird. I would of assumed everyone stopped caring about such nonsense things when they were 13.

Circumcision threads are usually as fun as gun threads.

I think only gay guys and girls give a shit if you are cut or uncut, but any girl i've been with has always like the cut look.

lol

but it's always great to see how many false and stupid opinions are out there

Ban all Genital Barbarism and Mutilation.

@killerK, same for me too.. Ive randomly asked the girls ive slept with, or gfs about cut/uncut and pretty much all of them said an uncut dick is too nasty looking and they wouldnt fuck a guy who was uncut

Female circumcision is cutting the clit off to eliminate sexual pleasure.

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about time they put and end to this barbaric tribal practice.

Sexual dysfunction happens for all kinds of reasons. I've read your posts, i just assumed you knew that.

most women say i have a "very nice cock" before they put it in their mouth. it's beauty overcomes any objections they may have programmed into to them by primitive tribal propaganda.

All I know is that the vast majority of the girls I have ever heard discuss this subject are disgusted by aardvark cocks. Glad mine got cut.

Because they have never seen anything different. Go to Europe and see how women react to your dick over there.

See that's the thing I don't get... right there... "false and stupid opinions."

that's a fair dismissal

Its traditional jewish and arabic thing. It was widespread in United states as well because of the fact that there was strong jewish presence in medicine.

what's not to get?

person a is cut and didnt wash his penis for 2 weeks

person b is uncut and washes every day

but a lot of people have the general opinion that cut is more clean.

so according to my portayal of person a & b that opinion is false (and stupid)

unless you believe that dirt is magically rejected by cut penisses

but i also know that talking sense into people in this discussion is useless and therefore i lean back and enjoy (and never move to the US)

It's about time they got rid of this ancient ritual, the world has moved on. The original concept of both male and female circumcision was to reduce sexual pleasure so as when the son/daughter grew up they would be less likely to bring shame on the family i.e. they would be more able to think with their heads (the big head that is)

Though perhaps we should circumcise rapists to help them stay in control

LOL. So cut men don't wash their cock? That's as silly as assuming uncut men don't wash their cock.

it doesn't look normal, it looks circumsized and molested

i'm not sure if you're bored and want to troll me or if you really don't understand what i'm trying to say...

and both are missing Franck's :2 cents: 2 cents

being european, gay and uncut I can say there are many guys i've talked to, both straight and gay and bi, who wish they weren't circumcised.

Some men even go trough foreskin restoration processes.

And the "cut dick is cleaner' bullshit ain't true, sorry. Been with a cut guy who's dick smelled because apparently didn't shower his junk. If he doesn't groom it doesn't matter whether he's cut or uncut.

The other argument that babies stop crying after 5 minutes is also not true.

That said, doesn't San Francisco have more pressing problems to deal with?

My son cried for at least an hour afterward, and then for about a week every single time he peed in his diaper. It was completely horrible and if I could go back I wouldn't have done it.

But at that point I had no exposure to what it meant to be uncut and felt inadequate to make a decision against what everyone else I knew had done.

Since my son was born I have dated a guy with an uncut dick and it is not any different from a cut dick when erect... except maybe it's easier to handle and he definitely seemed wayyyy more sensitive than most guys who were cut.

Ok for those that think that there is no downside to being cut - there are many - do your research.

Here is just 1 of those for you to ponder. You lose 4 x 3 inches of skin with highly sensitive nerves. (that's the size of the removed foreskin if it was still there as an adult.)

The most sensitive part of your cut dicks is the small remaining piece of foreskin tissue! (around the frenulum just under the head). Check yourself!

You - "oh shit he's right - have they cut off 12 square inches of that shit? - Gulp :Oh crap."

It's time people in the USA wake up and stop this religious practice that has no place in today's society.

To the girls on here that think an uncut dick looks "grose" or "abnormal" stop perpertrating this myth and take note of NikKay said about regetting cutting the most sensitve part of her son's dick off.

Leave the choice to the child - you can't sew it back on.

I have been married to both...I am sexually experienced with both. Both can be kept clean and healthy and both can belong to men who decide to slack off in the personal hygiene department. So, yes, I have experience with uncircumcised penises but I am not devoted to them or picky.

Funny...as much as I don't think there should be a law about this passed, it is the precisely the collection of people in San Fran that is making me think seriously about moving there. I am actually there now visiting some friends and if anywhere gets me to move back to the States it will be here.

Is Jeff Dillon behind this, trying to even the playing field?

Wow..did gay marriage get passed and I missed it?

That's what I love about GFY..arguments made that make absolutely NO SENSE to the subject at hand.

This is precisely what entered my mind. You can kill your to-be baby but holy fuck if you snip off a bit of its skin once it is born!

That said, it seems like an odd religious practice, but it's still a religious practice, and considering all the shit we let the religious do here in the name of religious freedom, why not the snippage of foreskin?

But hey, while we're on this "let the child decide" kick, let's have them decide what they eat...we'll have fuckloads more kids with malnutrition considering the ones that have malnutrition now are the ones with shitty parents who just say "okay" every time their kid wants particular food or wants to snack. Let's also let them decide whether or not they go to school...we'll have deserted schools in no time.

Here's another...next time you take your kid to the doctor for something where they need a shot, let them decide whether they get the shot or not and take a wild fucking guess what they'll decide.

This is really not something they need to make a law for, people should have enough sense to stop cutting newborn dongs. Seems like more and more people are figuring it out on their own anyway.

Definitely gives a new meaning to the term "recap"