FaceBooks building a 450 Million dolla DC in NC

[Juicy D. Links]

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/1...w-data-center/

that will hold alot of "likes""""""""""

[Strickie]

Nice to have this

Facebook will receive approximately $17 million in local subsidies and tax breaks over 10 years, according to Tom Johnson, director of economic development for Rutherford County. Facebook will also be exempt from paying state taxes on all equipment, electricity and construction materials for the data centers.

[Fat Panda]

Facebook is just a fad, it will die a slow death like Myspace

[minicivan]

Originally Posted by SAC

Facebook is just a fad, it will die a slow death like Myspace

That might be true if Facebook was anything at all like myspace, friendster et al. Facebook was clearly the first to get it right.

"its just a fad" doesn't explain even 10% of their success and continued growth.

[xNetworx]

Originally Posted by SAC

Facebook is just a fad, it will die a slow death like Myspace

[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by SAC

Facebook is just a fad, it will die a slow death like Myspace

You aren't smart enough to be in business for yourself.

[oscer]

You know alot of Companies are starting to build Data Centers in north Carolina.
You wouldn't think it but there is a ton of connectivity there.

[BlackCrayon]

even if facebook goes tits up eventually, they can always sell the place.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by minicivan

That might be true if Facebook was anything at all like myspace, friendster et al. Facebook was clearly the first to get it right.

"its just a fad" doesn't explain even 10% of their success and continued growth.

there hasn't been a single "popular" site that has maintained its popularity over the course of a decade. if facebook can do it, great but the net moves fast and you can be someone out there someone is working on something to usurp facebook.

[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

there hasn't been a single "popular" site that has maintained its popularity over the course of a decade. if facebook can do it, great but the net moves fast and you can be someone out there someone is working on something to usurp facebook.

You're right, Google and Yahoo fell off the face of the earth before 10 years were up.

Seriously guy, you need to rethink your career choice if you are this naive.

[comeplay]

You guys are pretty quick to jump on people.. name one social network that hasn't fallen out of the limelight is less than 10 years.

im sure you all run to log into all these social networks every morning as soon as you wake up!!

[Davy]

Social networks need to go P2P. And they will. The question is if facebook will be able to make the transition (and sell the crappy datacenter again).
The cloud is big enough. You could reach anybody by connecting to the cloud.
The problem is that Facebook is the middle man who profits from your data.
Facebook is pretty obsolete, really.
Once somebody comes up with a P2P solution (and I personally know PhDs who work on this) then Facebook will die a quick death.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

You're right, Google and Yahoo fell off the face of the earth before 10 years were up.

Seriously guy, you need to rethink your career choice if you are this naive.

Yahoo is nowhere near as popular as it was in 96-98. Google, they are keeping it fresh but there is always the chance that they too will fall. You used to post here all the time but then disappeared and now you're back..bad career choice?

[Rankings]

NIce, cpl hours from me

[comeplay]

Yahoo has ad great success with their social network i see they officially closed Yahoo! 360 on July 13, 2009. Well atleast they have their advertising network still! oh wait they closed too.. On March 11, 2010 how about their once huge free host system surely they is thriving its free! it connected millions of people! oh shit.. RIP Oct 25, 2009

[minicivan]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

there hasn't been a single "popular" site that has maintained its popularity over the course of a decade. if facebook can do it, great but the net moves fast and you can be someone out there someone is working on something to usurp facebook.

There is something else thats changing. The cost of leaving for everyone increases daily. Your friends, your connections, your coworkers, your 500 photo galleries, your 500 video galleries, farmville, mafia wars, all your other fan pages and groups etc are not portable. There is a cost to leaving facebook that grows practically each time someone logs in and uses it.

I understand what you are saying, but people need to recognize that these sites are also developing and evolving every bit as fast as the web is and giving people what they want and more as they do it.

I wouldn't bet my money on "facebook" being displaced anymore than I would bet on Google being displaced.

You are also wrong about Yahoo. In fact, you made a comment that was completely fabricated. 96-98 had dozens of big search engines all competing for the same eyes. Since that time 3, have emerged the victors and at the same time, total users online has grown exponentially. They have done nothing but grow over the last decade (as incompetent as they might be).

[seeandsee]

social networks burst in money

[BIGTYMER]

Facebook isn't going anywhere soon.

[FreeHugeMovies]

I think apple and Google have dcs here as well.

[ShellyCrash]

Originally Posted by comeplay

You guys are pretty quick to jump on people.. name one social network that hasn't fallen out of the limelight is less than 10 years.

Social Media sites will always rise and fall. Facebook is what's hot right now, just like myspace was years ago.

Friendster lost out to Myspace because people wanted more freedom to communicate and express themselves, Myspace lost out to Facebook because sometimes too much freedom to express yourself can be a bad thing.

Who will be next and what will be next is anyone's guess, but if there is a safe bet it's that in the next 5 years it probably won't be facebook.

I spend time on facebook because that's where the majority of my contacts spend their time online, not because I love it. Facebook offers me nothing that makes me feel invested in facebook. The site is always acting up, apps and app requests are annoying, etc. I will easily jump from FB onto the next train whenever that whistle blows.

[Juicy D. Links]

there first DC should be complete soon ... I want to see pics of this place

[stocktrader23]

This thread is a perfect example of how many ignorant people somehow manage to get into this business. The comparisons you are making with Facebook to other social networking sites are so LOL retarded that I'm nearly crying. Facebook is like the 2001 internet stuffed inside the real internet. It could fail but not for any of the stupid ass reasons you are giving.

[xxweekxx]

facebook aint going anywhere for a long time..cant u see the difference between facebook and myspace...anyway people did like myspace and logged in once or twice a day, but there are people posting fbook updates every 5mins and i want to stab all of them.. one girl i went to school with.. heres her posts in the past 24hr r:

Melanie just checked-in @ Forum Fitness Club
Melanie just checked-in @ Franklin Park
what the? lookin like a wrinkly raisin! fathead! haha (she posted some pic)
I can't sleep. Does anyone wanna play with me?
I think all my brain cells are diminished... but then I just typed this so I'm probably wrong.
I am beat.
everytime I go on facebook on the computer... it looks different. just saying
LOL Blackberry sucks
yay ld has iphone 4... now I have another person to facetime with... a rare occasion! lol
day is going by fast.. can't wait to go home though. lol.


11 fucking updates within 24hrs.. someone stab her, and everyone else like her..

[xxweekxx]

all u fucking attention whore bitches should stop updating every 30mins. we dont need to know u just took a shit or ur day was good.. go fuck yourself and choke on a dick

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by minicivan

There is something else thats changing. The cost of leaving for everyone increases daily. Your friends, your connections, your coworkers, your 500 photo galleries, your 500 video galleries, farmville, mafia wars, all your other fan pages and groups etc are not portable. There is a cost to leaving facebook that grows practically each time someone logs in and uses it.

I understand what you are saying, but people need to recognize that these sites are also developing and evolving every bit as fast as the web is and giving people what they want and more as they do it.

I wouldn't bet my money on "facebook" being displaced anymore than I would bet on Google being displaced.

You are also wrong about Yahoo. In fact, you made a comment that was completely fabricated. 96-98 had dozens of big search engines all competing for the same eyes. Since that time 3, have emerged the victors and at the same time, total users online has grown exponentially. They have done nothing but grow over the last decade (as incompetent as they might be).

i might be wrong about 96 but were you even usin the internet then? 97-98 i was on it all the time and yahoo was the big search engine for me. others were there but didn't produce the results yahoo did.

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by Strickie

Nice to have this

Nice for NC as well. This will bring a lot of jobs and money into the state.

[trevesty]

Originally Posted by Strickie

Nice to have this

Miss the part where it said it'd still be the county's highest tax payer?

It's called being smart and getting businesses to come to you.

[fatfoo]

It looks like Facebook Company is expanding with new buildings.
A building is an expensive asset. It sure takes a lot of money to build.

[minicivan]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

i might be wrong about 96 but were you even usin the internet then? 97-98 i was on it all the time and yahoo was the big search engine for me. others were there but didn't produce the results yahoo did.

Yeah, 96-97. And at the time, I dont think I used yahoo.. .I was all those other crappy search engines like excite, prodigy, aol, webcrawler, alta vista etc. I remember the first search I did on google. People were arguing on hahahahahahaha and I did a quick search to bring up old articles of Dave Marshlack from Candid and his arrests for cocaine and embezzlement. Google was the only one that returned results. I don't remember anything about yahoo really other than all those bigger engines at the time were locked in a competition to be the center of your life with shopping, finance, news etc and had the same layouts/format.

[Zuzana Designs]

North Carolina rocks.

[Ace_luffy]

nice find from facebook!!

[yabate]

Originally Posted by Davy

Social networks need to go P2P. And they will. The question is if facebook will be able to make the transition (and sell the crappy datacenter again).
The cloud is big enough. You could reach anybody by connecting to the cloud.
The problem is that Facebook is the middle man who profits from your data.
Facebook is pretty obsolete, really.
Once somebody comes up with a P2P solution (and I personally know PhDs who work on this) then Facebook will die a quick death.

lol
Moving in cloud or p2p is NOT secure, so it will fall in a few months.

[Ron Bennett]

Facebook as purely a social network likely wouldn't last much longer, but they've since gone way beyond basic social networking...

Facebook is increasingly becoming a platform for many well known sites for product promotion, content distribution, message forums, etc; the need for more large datacenters, such as the NC one.

In my view, many of the numerous websites that increasingly depend on Facebook are making a huge mistake in that they're ceding too much control, and diluting their own website identity...

For example, many websites utilize Facebook's content platform, discussion system, etc instead of their own; many websites seemingly go out of their way to tout Facebook, including GFY, which has the "f" icon in every post.

Point is that if Facebook continues to becomes a widely utilized platform by 3rd party websites, Facebook has a long-term future far longer than its predecessors.

Ron

[marketsmart]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

You aren't smart enough to be in business for yourself.

i spent about an hour with the co founder of wordpress last month and he told me facebook will be replaced in 5 years...

i believe him....






.

[WebairGerard]

Originally Posted by ShellyCrash

Who will be next and what will be next is anyone's guess, but if there is a safe bet it's that in the next 5 years it probably won't be facebook.

I spend time on facebook because that's where the majority of my contacts spend their time online, not because I love it. Facebook offers me nothing that makes me feel invested in facebook. The site is always acting up, apps and app requests are annoying, etc. I will easily jump from FB onto the next train whenever that whistle blows.

Quoted for truth

[woj]

odds are against them, more likely than not they won't matter in 5 years... same can be said about twitter... with that one, it's actually surprising that they lasted this long..

[Agent 488]

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/itfacts/to...n-top-10/10630

Yahoo! 105,027 3:28:39
Microsoft 99,368 0:50:16
MSN 95,124 1:52:10
Google 93,244 1:00:56
AOL 75,348 6:13:54
eBay 55,573 1:59:18
MapQuest 40,809 0:12:05
Amazon 40,721 0:23:21
Real 36,961 0:43:00
MySpace 36,373 2:09:04

[Strickie]

Originally Posted by trevesty

Miss the part where it said it'd still be the county's highest tax payer?

Rutherford County, with a population of about 63,000

[Juicy D. Links]

Originally Posted by fatfoo

It looks like Facebook Company is expanding with new buildings.
A building is an expensive asset. It sure takes a lot of money to build.

[FreeHugeMovies]

Originally Posted by Ethersync

Nice for NC as well. This will bring a lot of jobs and money into the state.

No, you are incorrect. These DC's don't bring a lot of jobs to the area. Once they are built you only need the techs and security.

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies

No, you are incorrect. These DC's don't bring a lot of jobs to the area. Once they are built you only need the techs and security.

Read the article.

[FreeHugeMovies]

Originally Posted by Ethersync

Read the article.

would employ from 35 to 45 full-time and contract workers once the center was finished.

I wouldn't call that a lot of jobs.

[PornMD]

Originally Posted by comeplay

You guys are pretty quick to jump on people.. name one social network that hasn't fallen out of the limelight is less than 10 years.

im sure you all run to log into all these social networks every morning as soon as you wake up!!

LiveJournal is still 77 on Alexa. LinkedIn is about to break top 20 Alexa and won't be going anywhere for a while.

[PornMD]

Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies

would employ from 35 to 45 full-time and contract workers once the center was finished.

I wouldn't call that a lot of jobs.

So $10 mil per permanent job...that's about the rate at which the government creates jobs too.

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies

would employ from 35 to 45 full-time and contract workers once the center was finished.

I wouldn't call that a lot of jobs.

250 construction jobs over an 18 month period and up to 45 immediate full time employees in a town of 63,000. Hundreds of millions of dollars into the local economy for $17 million in tax breaks over a 10 year period.

...even with the tax breaks, Facebook will become the county?s largest taxpayer after local utilities and railway. Rutherford County, with a population of about 63,000, has an unemployment rate of 14.5 percent.

Are you seriously implying this is a bad deal for the town/state? Seriously?

[Fat Panda]

Its a good deal for FB... gotta love broke states, cities and counties handing out tax breaks like fucking water to multi billion dollar companies

[FreeHugeMovies]

Originally Posted by Ethersync

250 construction jobs over an 18 month period and up to 45 immediate full time employees in a town of 63,000. Hundreds of millions of dollars into the local economy for $17 million in tax breaks over a 10 year period.



Are you seriously implying this is a bad deal for the town/state? Seriously?

Read what I wrote before you first chimed in.

"No, you are incorrect. These DC's don't bring a lot of jobs to the area. Once they are built you only need the techs and security."

YES, it brings in good cash and stuff to the local economy. If you look at when I said "Once they are built you only need the techs and security." that would mean.

Once the building is completed and all the money spent (Good for local economy) then there isn't many jobs to go around running the facility. (Not fantastic for local economy)

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies

Read what I wrote before you first chimed in.

"No, you are incorrect. These DC's don't bring a lot of jobs to the area. Once they are built you only need the techs and security."

YES, it brings in good cash and stuff to the local economy. If you look at when I said "Once they are built you only need the techs and security." that would mean.

Once the building is completed and all the money spent (Good for local economy) then there isn't many jobs to go around running the facility. (Not fantastic for local economy)

Well, they will be the 3rd largest tax payer in the county which is great for the local economy.

[HerPimp]

- Facebook and Twitter have free promotion on CNN, ESPN and all other major networks.
- Twitter sucks but many of us still use it for traffic bennefits, this will be gone when the media stops pushing it.
- Myspace still has a shitload of traffic regardless if they are ignored by mainstream. Aexa rank is 37, not kiddy play...
- It seems like google is keeping Orkut on ice, not sure why but they are capable of forcing anything they want into the top spot.