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Old 11-10-2010, 12:28 PM   #51
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Which is a shame really.
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Old 11-10-2010, 01:18 PM   #54
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Eugenics is the only way to correct the lack of further evolution caused by modern medicine.
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Old 11-10-2010, 01:23 PM   #55
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Old 11-10-2010, 01:39 PM   #58
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That's a new one on me.
Instead of the fittest and strongest people breeding and the ill and defective dying young modern medicine means everybody gets a go at having kids. Hereditary diseases that should kill people before they reproduce are treatable so instead of the disease dying out with the person who has got it they have kids who are either going to have it or carry it to reappear again in a future generation. Eugenics is the control against this.
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Instead of the fittest and strongest people breeding and the ill and defective dying young modern medicine means everybody gets a go at having kids. Hereditary diseases that should kill people before they reproduce are treatable so instead of the disease dying out with the person who has got it they have kids who are either going to have it or carry it to reappear again in a future generation. Eugenics is the control against this.
Agreed

Now, take your medicine and eat up, fuckers...
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Instead of the fittest and strongest people breeding and the ill and defective dying young modern medicine means everybody gets a go at having kids. Hereditary diseases that should kill people before they reproduce are treatable so instead of the disease dying out with the person who has got it they have kids who are either going to have it or carry it to reappear again in a future generation. Eugenics is the control against this.
But medicine made it a non-issue, right?
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Old 11-10-2010, 02:25 PM   #61
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There is a group of these rich fucks who believe we're all nothing but useless eaters and openly talk about depopulation as the only way to save the planet.
Nothing new here. There is always an active group of people who talk about population control, depopulation, etc, etc. It manifests in different forms.

In the early 19th and early 20th century, Eugenics was all the rage (the Nazis loved it!). It was very socially acceptable to talk about "cleaning up the gene pool". In fact, if you've ever read the communist manifesto, it is thick and brimming with ideas that revolve around eugenics and population control. George Bernard Shaw was all about it.

So, there's really no conspiracy here.. not even any new ideas. Just the same old shit recycled, rediscovered and rehashed. These kinds of ideas come and go like fashion trends.
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Old 11-10-2010, 02:38 PM   #62
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But medicine made it a non-issue, right?
Nope. Medicine made it so instead of dying at 17 I cost someone $18k every 2 weeks and any children I have would cost a similar amount for life. Not something I think is a non-issue.
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Nope. Medicine made it so instead of dying at 17 I cost someone $18k every 2 weeks and any children I have would cost a similar amount for life. Not something I think is a non-issue.
You could always off yourself if you feel that guilty about it. I have to presume that you will not be breeding.
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But medicine made it a non-issue, right?
Apparently you've never heard of drug resistant strains...
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The group Martin is referring to is the Bilderberg Group and Bill Gates is one of the approx. 130 members of that group.

They want to get the earth's population down to ~500 Million people and are investigating different methods by which to do so, mandatory vaccines are one of those methods being discussed at this time.
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Old 11-10-2010, 06:28 PM   #66
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Close. Populations grow when food supply is abundant. The more food there is and the less difficult it is to get it, the more population grows. This poses to be a problem these days because in most countries we don't give any thought to food or hunger, and populations are growing!
Population is growing fast in Africa, India, China etc etc and population is not growing (except from immigration) in wealthy world. So I don't find your statements very true.
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The group Martin is referring to is the Bilderberg Group and Bill Gates is one of the approx. 130 members of that group.

They want to get the earth's population down to ~500 Million people and are investigating different methods by which to do so, mandatory vaccines are one of those methods being discussed at this time.
We have a winner. But is Gates a member or was he just invited to the conference like Obama and Clinton?
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I'm not saying people are living longer because of vaccines, I'm saying people are living longer even after being vaccinated. If it's some super secret, never-once-leaked population control project, it hasn't been very effective, has it?

For most normal people extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. You clearly don't have that little bit of common sense logic. And you're calling me gullible??
It always amazes me how inept the secret reptilian masters of the universe are. On one hand their scientific dictatorship tries to crush us with delay kill vaccines and on the other hand they provide santitation. Someone should tell Bob in sanitation to stop screwing things up. I'm sure he'll be demoted at his next yearly performance review. I knew he should have used more flouride.
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Martin isn't very bright.
I thought this site had been bought by Fox News for a moment there!
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Who is this "group of rich fucks" - Do you have any quotes?

...Or are you just irretrievably insane?

I believe he means the BILDERBERG GROUP

They want a one world government, and mass depopulation has been a huge part of their mantra for a long time ...

They ideally would like to see the world population decrease by about 80% by 2050 ..
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Close. Populations grow when food supply is abundant. The more food there is and the less difficult it is to get it, the more population grows. This poses to be a problem these days because in most countries we don't give any thought to food or hunger, and populations are growing!
True. Bob Geldof did Live Aid, July 13th 1985. Benefit concert for Ethiopia. It saved 1,000s if not 100,000s from starvation. And most it saved went on to produce children. Now the problem is still there. THE LAND WILL NEVER SUPPORT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE LIVING THERE.

The same problem magnified applies to the Earth. It can't sustain the number of people it now has. It will never sustain the number it will have in 100 years time. The Earth can't sustain the growing economies of China and India. They over produce which leads to pollution.

Vaccines, aid, charities, etc are not the answer. The answer is less people and less affluence everywhere unless we find a way to produce energy that doesn't choke the Earth and stop cutting down Rain Forest to feed people who can't stop producing or their demand for wealth.

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Not just third and fourth world. Try starting at the Vatican. Educating someone out of their beliefs is tough.
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You presume right.
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Nothing new here. There is always an active group of people who talk about population control, depopulation, etc, etc. It manifests in different forms.

In the early 19th and early 20th century, Eugenics was all the rage (the Nazis loved it!). It was very socially acceptable to talk about "cleaning up the gene pool". In fact, if you've ever read the communist manifesto, it is thick and brimming with ideas that revolve around eugenics and population control. George Bernard Shaw was all about it.

So, there's really no conspiracy here.. not even any new ideas. Just the same old shit recycled, rediscovered and rehashed. These kinds of ideas come and go like fashion trends.
But now they are combining those idea's with eco-scaremongering to gain support
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The answer is less people...
How do you propose we achieve that?
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Perfect.

This was running through my mind when responding to this thread the other day. Great minds think alike.
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Some sensible person speaking about our population. But wait he works with Bill Gates...Must be some sort of cynical plan behind this. Who has the scoop for me?

http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/ha...on_growth.html

Coles Notes...He discusses the fact that the rest of the world is catching up to the western world in terms of higher childrens health and longer lives. Which in turn slows the rate at which our population grows by family size being smaller.
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Who are the prominent republicans in the bilderberg group?
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