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Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 11-08-2010 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Zorgman (Post 17681569)
Did they ever think about sending remote controlled robots to Mars to setup a base then send people later on?

Why do that? Africa is full of blacks that are way cheaper...

calvinawe 11-08-2010 06:27 AM

probably i'm just daydreaming, but how about..

1., NASA sends equipment to the mars first
2., when the equip has arrived safely, they send the 1st group of people to the mars
3., they research, explore, do what they're supposed to do to be able to take off with a shuttle, and..
4., when done (or getting insane/bored.. hah) they assemble the equip. from step 1 and launch back home, with the given circumstances thanks to step 3

btw. the assumption about nullgravity->gravity collapse.. people can accomodate to different gravities even after a long time spent in each state. however, the most severe effect is that on earth they let go things which eventually fall on the ground. as they got pretty much used to zero gravity and its advantages of having things just floating around, astronauts even have these side-effects years after coming back home from a weeks-long trip in space, guess what a 8yrs long space trip would do.. hah :)

- LOL - 11-08-2010 07:03 AM

if i were selected for the mission, i'd kill all the other crew members a crash the thing into the moon

- LOL - 11-08-2010 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by RDFrame (Post 17679387)
Because it's a well known (yet little talked about) fact that if we don't figure out how to live in space or on other planets within the next ~200 years, us humans are going to be extinct. Especially considering our population growth, and depleting resources, us humans simply can not sustain our species on Earth.

Let's start a war. Start a nuclear war.

At the gay bar.

PR_Glen 11-08-2010 07:42 AM

The minute they find a gold mine on the planet there will be fleets of people volunteering and investors chipping in I'm sure.

As for expense, Columbus's trip out west was considered a waste of money and completely insane, but without the risk taken it may have been another 100 years before someone dared try an exploration like that. Him wanting to go out there wasn't purely for making his mark as much as he thought it would be incredibly profitable as well. So as long as they come up with an incentive like that the mission will be done sooner rather than later.

Science? great, Exploration? yeah, brave? sure.. riches beyond? Sign me up! ;)

Firestarter30 11-08-2010 08:18 AM

Mars has the 38% of the Earth's gravity. I would weight 31Kgs there.
And from what i know gravity affects the aging..

Sly 11-08-2010 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 17681442)
It will happen, only takes one mentally unstable dictator to start it and there's no shortage of them. Personally i'd much rather go from alive to cremated in half a second than be around for the aftermath.

Would another World War even be necessary?

There are several countries with the power to practically wipe the map. Each of these countries would never want to do so, they aren't that nuts. So the countries with the potential to attempt starting a World War are limited to those with nuclear capabilities and "nuts" at the helm... so we are talking about places like Pakistan, North Korea, Syria, Iran, maybe even Israel. Or one could even argue a rogue scientist selling the technology to another nut bag state. And that's fair enough.

So a nut bag state has nukes. How many do they have? Minimal. One, three, maybe ten at a long shot?

Nut bag state with ten nukes against any given nuke world power with hundreds, even thousands. Would China defend North Korea? Unlikely. Would Russia defend Iran? Unlikely.

Technology and the vast disproportion of world power, I think, would hasten the possibility of a WW3. Anything is always possible... I just can't picture a short term scenario where WW3 would even take place.

Serge Litehead 11-08-2010 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainWolfy (Post 17680331)
where do i sign?!

yes would like to know that too

2MuchMark 11-08-2010 09:03 AM

Unfortunately War is cheaper and much easier due to very stupid people who prefer the lies of faith over the facts of science.

SomeCreep 11-08-2010 09:08 AM

People can breathe on Mars. I saw it on TV.

http://blogs.amctv.com/scifi-scanner/red-planet-560.jpg

Anyone who goes there will be fine.

Paul Markham 11-08-2010 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 17681751)
The minute they find a gold mine on the planet there will be fleets of people volunteering and investors chipping in I'm sure.

As for expense, Columbus's trip out west was considered a waste of money and completely insane, but without the risk taken it may have been another 100 years before someone dared try an exploration like that. Him wanting to go out there wasn't purely for making his mark as much as he thought it would be incredibly profitable as well. So as long as they come up with an incentive like that the mission will be done sooner rather than later.

Science? great, Exploration? yeah, brave? sure.. riches beyond? Sign me up! ;)

Gold is at $1,394.00 an ounce. Divide the $trillions it will cost to get there, mine it and get it back and that's the weight for a break even trip. :(

Sorry to burst your bubble. :)

And if the market crashed after you brought so much back ..........................

calvinawe 11-08-2010 09:22 AM

i just don't get it, why the discussion of such a beautiful (i think) scientific subject turns into talking about wars...

oh wait.. i just got it.

Ethersync 11-08-2010 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RDFrame (Post 17681262)
No, but it does slow down the rate of molecular breakdown. The more gravity, the faster your cells break down and stop multiplying, hence you die faster. Mars doesn't have as much gravity, so your cells will continue to multiply for much longer, hence keeping you alive longer.

Any links on this?

PR_Glen 11-08-2010 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17682027)
Gold is at $1,394.00 an ounce. Divide the $trillions it will cost to get there, mine it and get it back and that's the weight for a break even trip. :(

Sorry to burst your bubble. :)

And if the market crashed after you brought so much back ..........................

trillions? wrong...

They wouldn't go for an ounce of gold, they would go for tonnes of it, and they wouldn't do it unless it was profitable, that was my point, that you missed.

justinsain 11-08-2010 09:46 AM

It's interesting to see that many in this thread think the only reason to go to another planet is to rape it's resources in the quest for greed and profit after those same people had bashed the movie AVATAR for being an old rehashed story.

SleepWalker 11-08-2010 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US (Post 17680090)
Conclusion: Manned Moon missions have not taken place. End of debate:thumbsup

Really? So who installed the moon reflectors we are now using to measure distance between the earth and the moon ???

https://youtube.com/watch?v=aqlo_spATEM
( go directly to 6:13 )

Jman 11-08-2010 09:52 AM

Send the convicts serving life... call it the second chance trip ;-)

Sly 11-08-2010 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by justinsain (Post 17682126)
It's interesting to see that many in this thread think the only reason to go to another planet is to rape it's resources in the quest for greed and profit after those same people had bashed the movie AVATAR for being an old rehashed story.

I've always been fond of the reasoning "because we can."

Ethersync 11-08-2010 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justinsain (Post 17682126)
It's interesting to see that many in this thread think the only reason to go to another planet is to rape it's resources in the quest for greed and profit after those same people had bashed the movie AVATAR for being an old rehashed story.

I don't think any Martians will mind if we mine Mars :2 cents:

chazzKorvex 11-08-2010 10:26 AM

Can I bring beer? or will their be a new galactic way to catch a buzz? lol

_Richard_ 11-08-2010 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SleepWalker (Post 17682129)
Really? So who installed the moon reflectors we are now using to measure distance between the earth and the moon ???

https://youtube.com/watch?v=aqlo_spATEM
( go directly to 6:13 )

hmm i wonder how those could have possibly have gotten to the moon

michael.kickass 11-08-2010 10:41 AM

Fuck Mars, let's go to the far moons of Jupiter and Saturn, Europe and Titan for instance, there's much more to learn there, they have abundant metals and shit there. Mars is just a frozen rock with just some water on its poles and almost no atmosphere.

Bird 11-08-2010 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainWolfy (Post 17680331)
where do i sign?!


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Fabien 11-08-2010 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by - LOL - (Post 17681704)
if i were selected for the mission, i'd kill all the other crew members a crash the thing into the moon


Guess what ?

You won't be selected :1orglaugh

Ethersync 11-08-2010 11:55 AM

You do realize that is an almost 2 year old april fools prank right?

Zorgman 11-09-2010 04:30 AM

From what I read this week, the 4-6 months trip to get there you would be drinking your own pissed which is filtered back into pure water. Water is the key to staying alive.

combson 11-09-2010 04:32 AM

Just watched Discovery with Morgan Freeman: Riddles of the black holes! Enjoyed it, highly recommended!


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