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01-13-2003, 08:04 AM

If anyone has experience with cats and can help me out that would be amazing. Here's the deal, we have a 5 month old kitten, too young to be declawed still. Today I just got my new leather couches delivered, and the way my den is I can't keep the cat out. She's already running on them. She doesn't scratch much of our furnature on purpose, she uses her scratching post pretty well. However, she has totally scratched up my leather work chair, and a few other things. The problem seem to be, she runs and jumps from place to place, and when she looses her footing, she digs in with her claws, and usually still falls (slowly, claws digging into leather).

Any ideas on how to keep her from destroying them?
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01-13-2003, 08:07 AM

Get plastic covers for all of your good furniture until you can get her declawed. It will look a little silly, but not as bad as it will look if she continues to claw on everything.

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01-13-2003, 08:08 AM

They make little claw covers for cats who aren't declawed. We have one cat that's declawed, and if I had to do it over again...I wouldn't do it. If the just removed the claw, it would be one thing...but they take it down to the first knuckle. Quite inhumane if you ask me.

Try the covers though...they've got them at Petco.

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01-13-2003, 08:08 AM

They make plastic covers for cats nails now.... you can use them no matter how young they are, it works very well...ask a vet about them..

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01-13-2003, 08:13 AM

Hehehe, there you go, three people agree, get the plastic covers.

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01-13-2003, 08:14 AM

keep her nails trimmed.
they wont do as much damage.
and please dont declaw her. if you wanted leather furniture and didnt want them to get scratched, you shouldnt have gotten a cat. you do know that declawing is actualy an amputation of their last digit, right?
http://community-2.webtv.net/stopdeclaw/declawpics/
http://www.api4animals.org/doc.asp?ID=1140
http://dmoz.org/Recreation/Pets/Cats...ery/Declawing/

just for you to think about it

anyways, good luck with your kitty!
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01-13-2003, 08:15 AM

Originally posted by Tera
They make plastic covers for cats nails now.... you can use them no matter how young they are, it works very well...ask a vet about them..

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01-13-2003, 08:16 AM

those declawing pictures are absolutely heart wrenching..
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01-13-2003, 08:17 AM

Originally posted by Caroline
keep her nails trimmed.
they wont do as much damage.
and please dont declaw her. if you wanted leather furniture and didnt want them to get scratched, you shouldnt have gotten a cat. you do know that declawing is actualy an amputation of their last digit, right?
http://community-2.webtv.net/stopdeclaw/declawpics/
http://www.api4animals.org/doc.asp?ID=1140
http://dmoz.org/Recreation/Pets/Cats...ery/Declawing/

just for you to think about it

anyways, good luck with your kitty!

aww, I didn't know that.

I've heard that it's bad because they can't be outdoor cats, no defence against other animals. My cat is completely declawed, and she must remain indoors. There are a few strays around, and they would just rip her up. Some people have also said it's cruel because they can't scratch their itches as well. However my cat seems to do just fine without them. I think the most popular thing now is declawing the front paws, and leaving the back ones.

EDIT: I read all the declawing info, fortunately my cat didn't suffer any of those side effects. I should add that she is 13-years-old, has been declawed for 12 years. But I remember well enough, she was ok. My cat was ok, but I'm not about to suggest something like that after seeing those pages though. So I guess furniture covers and nail trimming would be the best way to go?

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01-13-2003, 08:23 AM

Thanks for the ideas, I'm deffinatly going to try those nail covers, and if that doesn't work I'll wrap them in plastic (my original idea too). Sorry, but I am getting her delcawed. She already scratched my daughter once fairly bad, even though she's almost perfectly behaved and never gets made at us, it's more than she doesn't know she's doing it. I know it hurts the cat, but I mean, I have a lot of expensive furnature, she's already ripping up the carpet, and since I saved her from a situation where she was being starved badly at the age of 1 1/2 months, I feel she'll be more happy declawed with a loving familly than dead.

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01-13-2003, 08:23 AM

Declawing is mean... Definitely go with the claw covers and a good swat when the cat jumps on things it shouldn't!
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01-13-2003, 08:28 AM

Originally posted by pixelminx
Get plastic covers for all of your good furniture until you can get her declawed. It will look a little silly, but not as bad as it will look if she continues to claw on everything.

That's what I was thinking, but I'm going to try out these soft paw things.
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01-13-2003, 08:31 AM

Never mind that declawing comment, after looking at these claw covers, I probably won't have to. Especially since three people reccomend them, so I know the website isn't bs. Thanks again guys, and my kitty thanks you too.

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01-13-2003, 09:12 AM

Declawing a cat is fucking cruel..Give the cat to someone who actualy likes cats, then get a goldfish and definn and detail it so that it don't stir up the water too much and you should be set with an animal who will love you for life..however short that might be..

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01-13-2003, 09:33 AM

Originally posted by Caroline
keep her nails trimmed.
they wont do as much damage.
and please dont declaw her. if you wanted leather furniture and didnt want them to get scratched, you shouldnt have gotten a cat. you do know that declawing is actualy an amputation of their last digit, right?
http://community-2.webtv.net/stopdeclaw/declawpics/
http://www.api4animals.org/doc.asp?ID=1140
http://dmoz.org/Recreation/Pets/Cats...ery/Declawing/

just for you to think about it

anyways, good luck with your kitty!

I don't like the idea of declawing cats, either. It's like when you have a kid: shit is going to happen to your goodies. You shoulda thought of that...

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01-13-2003, 09:37 AM

Originally posted by Caroline
keep her nails trimmed.
they wont do as much damage.
and please dont declaw her. if you wanted leather furniture and didnt want them to get scratched, you shouldnt have gotten a cat. you do know that declawing is actualy an amputation of their last digit, right?
http://community-2.webtv.net/stopdeclaw/declawpics/
http://www.api4animals.org/doc.asp?ID=1140
http://dmoz.org/Recreation/Pets/Cats...ery/Declawing/

just for you to think about it

anyways, good luck with your kitty!

I was going to say the SAME thing.

I have leather furniture as well and its held up no probs as long as I keep my cats claws well trimmed. The sooner you start trimming them the easier it will be to do when they are adults as well.

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01-13-2003, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by PaulSweet

I was going to say the SAME thing.

I have leather furniture as well and its held up no probs as long as I keep my cats claws well trimmed. The sooner you start trimming them the easier it will be to do when they are adults as well.

I've already trimmed them, but my chair still gets damaged. I don't care about it, but I mean, I'm not going to not own a nice piece of furnature for the next 15 years. I am really hoping she takes to those claw covers, though. I really don't like the idea of getting her declawed.
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01-13-2003, 12:27 PM

the only thing I know about cats.. is that if you throw them against a wall, you lose many costumers. And I'm glad to say I didn't learn this lession first hand.
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01-13-2003, 12:29 PM

have a 5 month old kitten, too young to be declawed still. Today I just got my new leather couches

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01-13-2003, 12:32 PM

Since the kitten's still young, teach her how to use a scratching post. My brother and his wife have 2 cats and VERY nice furniture w/o a scratch ANYWHERE.

If you can't train her to use the post, then get the nail covers - MUCH more humane than declawing.

I daresay almost all of us have lived through at least one cat scratch - teaches kids how to leave the cat alone
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01-13-2003, 12:37 PM

The covers will work. Do both, the covers and keeping her nails trimmed. I'm sure if you stick to the trimmings, you won't have to get her nails ripped out. On the other hand, cats take well to the surgery. It is all on you.

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01-13-2003, 12:41 PM

SQUIRT BOTTLE

Get a little squirt bottle, fill it with cold water. Everytime she goes near the furniture you want her to stay off nail her with cold water.

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01-13-2003, 12:47 PM

I know it hurts the cat, but I mean, I have a lot of expensive furnature
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not to bash, but you should really consider finding her another home if your furniture is more important to you. If you're still thinking of getting her declawed after you know about the dangers of the operation it's a good sign that you would do better with a pet that isn't so demanding of your time, attention and care.

Pets aren't for everyone, or maybe you should consider a more low maintenance pet, like a Hamster or Guinea Pigs or something. If you do a little research you can almost always find something exactly suited to you.
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01-13-2003, 12:58 PM

Trim them, My cat have 3 times the size nail of a regular cat and I just trim them and I dont think your furniture costs more then mine trust me on that one.

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01-13-2003, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by Caroline
keep her nails trimmed.
they wont do as much damage.
and please dont declaw her. if you wanted leather furniture and didnt want them to get scratched, you shouldnt have gotten a cat. you do know that declawing is actualy an amputation of their last digit, right?
http://community-2.webtv.net/stopdeclaw/declawpics/
http://www.api4animals.org/doc.asp?ID=1140
http://dmoz.org/Recreation/Pets/Cats...ery/Declawing/

just for you to think about it

anyways, good luck with your kitty!

You should not declaw your cat. A botched declawing job can wreck your cat's life. He'll spend the rest of his years walking in pain. How would you like it if someone cut your toes off or put needles in your feet for you to walk around on?

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01-13-2003, 01:22 PM

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I know it hurts the cat, but I mean, I have a lot of expensive furnature

Holy shit, hurry up and give that cat to someone else. I saw your next post down about not needing to declaw him because of the claw covers, but if you're the kind of person who would rip his claws out, anyway, if it came down to a choice between her and your furniture, then you really shouldn't own a cat.

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01-13-2003, 02:07 PM

Originally posted by mrthumbs

mr rocket scientist.

They were ordered long before the kids decided we had to have a cat. Not everyone buys whatever they have at walmart.

Originally posted by Peaches
Since the kitten's still young, teach her how to use a scratching post. My brother and his wife have 2 cats and VERY nice furniture w/o a scratch ANYWHERE.

If you can't train her to use the post, then get the nail covers - MUCH more humane than declawing.

I daresay almost all of us have lived through at least one cat scratch - teaches kids how to leave the cat alone

She uses the scratching post, it's when she jumps and runs on the furnature and slips that the claws dig in. You're right about the covers, that's the way I've decided to go.

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SQUIRT BOTTLE

Get a little squirt bottle, fill it with cold water. Everytime she goes near the furniture you want her to stay off nail her with cold water.

My cat's a little wierd. I tried the water bottle thing, she didn't run away and seemed to enjoy the water.

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I know it hurts the cat, but I mean, I have a lot of expensive furnature
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not to bash, but you should really consider finding her another home if your furniture is more important to you. If you're still thinking of getting her declawed after you know about the dangers of the operation it's a good sign that you would do better with a pet that isn't so demanding of your time, attention and care.

Pets aren't for everyone, or maybe you should consider a more low maintenance pet, like a Hamster or Guinea Pigs or something. If you do a little research you can almost always find something exactly suited to you.

Go fuck yourself, assclown.

Everyone who has thier cats declawed, or even thinks about it, shouldn't have pets? Blow me jerk, there would be millions more orphan cats out there, you want them all? I love my cat, I have no problem with her being "demanding of my time", for example I'll be putting on these claw covers every 6 weeks for the next 15 years. My furtanture isn't more important than my cat, but if having (what I thought was) a simple opperation to remove her claws can stop her from scrathing my kids and trashing my furnature makes me a terrible person in your eyes, well I guess I'll have to live with that.

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Holy shit, hurry up and give that cat to someone else. I saw your next post down about not needing to declaw him because of the claw covers, but if you're the kind of person who would rip his claws out, anyway, if it came down to a choice between her and your furniture, then you really shouldn't own a cat.

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hahaha, yeah everyone who declaws there cats or even thinks about it better give them away fast! Damn, what was I thinking, I'm going to have to call peta on myself.

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01-13-2003, 02:30 PM

The spray bottle deal may work and I think the cardboard
scratching pads that lay on the floor are much better than scratching posts anyday. FYI, about $5 at Walmart! Or go to Petsmart and get the double wide so your kitty can sleep on it.
They are filled with catnip and they love them.

Also think about gettin some bitter apple spray or something that will deter her from jumping on the furniture.
Just dont declaw. I have a 19 year old cat that has severe arthritis in the front because she was declawed. Happened before I got her.
My other two are untouched and we manage just fine. Just make sure you keep them clipped. Not only does it blunt them, but it helps them resist the urge to scratch.
You could always give the kitten away and adopt an adult cat that is not so lively. Kittens are wild. Be happy you dont have any screens or curtains that it might take a liking to.

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01-13-2003, 02:32 PM

When I was younger we had my cat declawed, only the front paws, so she could still use the back paws to scratch. It had to be done, she was practically ripping my brother apart, who was 6 at the time. She went on just fine, and was actually a HUGE outdoor cat. Every time the door opened she was tearing out like a bat out of hell.

This is a terrible comparison, but if your baby had a 6th toe, would you have it removed? I really don't know what I would do, but if I had a 6th toe, I would be pissed at my parents.

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01-13-2003, 02:44 PM

first off brainiac, when I said 'not to bash' I meant it. Not everyone is suited to have pets. If you know about the dangers of declawing and what it can do to cats and you're still willing to subject her to it to save your furniture, you're one of those people, simple as that.

Just get a different pet, one that's less destructive.

"My furtanture isn't more important than my cat, but if having (what I thought was) a simple opperation"

now you know it's not a simple operation, and you were apparently still thinking of doing it. Eventually your cat is going to do things that are far more irritating than claw your furniture ( I know because I have three of them ) and what are you going to do then?

Yes, anyone who has their cat declawed after they're informed of what it means to the cat should NOT have a cat, and the reason there are millions of orphaned cats out there is irresponsible owners who view their pets as their toy rather than living animals with their own lives. They don't get their pets neutered and they're quick to discard them when the pet gets on their nerves for whatever reason.
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01-13-2003, 04:51 PM

Originally posted by dig420
first off brainiac, when I said 'not to bash' I meant it. Not everyone is suited to have pets. If you know about the dangers of declawing and what it can do to cats and you're still willing to subject her to it to save your furniture, you're one of those people, simple as that.

Just get a different pet, one that's less destructive.

"My furtanture isn't more important than my cat, but if having (what I thought was) a simple opperation"

now you know it's not a simple operation, and you were apparently still thinking of doing it. Eventually your cat is going to do things that are far more irritating than claw your furniture ( I know because I have three of them ) and what are you going to do then?

Yes, anyone who has their cat declawed after they're informed of what it means to the cat should NOT have a cat, and the reason there are millions of orphaned cats out there is irresponsible owners who view their pets as their toy rather than living animals with their own lives. They don't get their pets neutered and they're quick to discard them when the pet gets on their nerves for whatever reason.

You can say not to bash all you want, but I'm going to respond because you're an asshole. I'm very suited to have pets, I have several and I'm a very loving owner. Just stop posting in my thread, I know your opinion and it sounds like it from a 7 year old who just read a peta brochure.

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Having your cat declawed doesn't make someone a bad person or pet owner, good God.

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01-13-2003, 04:54 PM

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I have 3 cats and love them to death. They are like kids and love to play. They also love to be free and go outdoors ( when is isn't fucking snowing in Pa). They need there claws to protect themselves if they can go outside. Yes, my furniture pays a bit of a price, however It's a small price to pay for having 3 true friends :-)

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01-13-2003, 05:01 PM

You can say not to bash all you want, but I'm going to respond because you're an asshole. I'm very suited to have pets, I have several and I'm a very loving owner. Just stop posting in my thread, I know your opinion and it sounds like it from a 7 year old who just read a peta brochure.
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01-13-2003, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by Rich
If anyone has experience with cats and can help me out that would be amazing. Here's the deal, we have a 5 month old kitten, too young to be declawed still. Today I just got my new leather couches delivered, and the way my den is I can't keep the cat out. She's already running on them. She doesn't scratch much of our furnature on purpose, she uses her scratching post pretty well. However, she has totally scratched up my leather work chair, and a few other things. The problem seem to be, she runs and jumps from place to place, and when she looses her footing, she digs in with her claws, and usually still falls (slowly, claws digging into leather).

Any ideas on how to keep her from destroying them?

i know pussies!

the solution is so simple: get rid of your leather furniture.
pussies and leather furniture do no mix.

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01-13-2003, 05:23 PM

never considered declawing my cats.. sometimes i'll put a blanket over the couch to cover the ugly bits they ripped up..

it isn't too hard to get cats to learn which room they're not allowed to enter

wish they would stay away from the speakers though but only cause they sometimes get their claws stuck in there

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01-13-2003, 05:25 PM

sometimes they'll sit on the doorstep looking like they really wanna get in there and claw away on stuff.. i go 'nuh-uh' and they take off

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01-13-2003, 05:39 PM

clip her nails - don't remove them, but keep them clipped. Use a pair of clippers and cut off the tips every other week. That way she won't have the sharp tips to rip up your furniture.

It worked with mine.

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01-13-2003, 05:58 PM

I did not know this.

I have a cat for about 2
and a half years now, and
about 2 years ago,
had her declawed.

I woudn't have done it, had I known this.
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01-13-2003, 06:02 PM

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01-13-2003, 07:32 PM

Originally posted by Lick-Clit
I did not know this.

I have a cat for about 2
and a half years now, and
about 2 years ago,
had her declawed.

I woudn't have done it, had I known this.

My God, you're pure evil. You don't have the right to have a pet. Give your pet to someone who doesn't hate cats immediatly. People like you make me sick.

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01-13-2003, 07:34 PM

cut her nails.....
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01-13-2003, 07:38 PM

Declaw your cats. They never stop doing that. My 4 cats were twelve years old and still doing the clawing thing even without their claws.

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01-13-2003, 08:16 PM

for keeping kitty off the couch, try this

for taking care of kitties nails, try this

for cats that aren't intimidated by water/squirt bottles, try canned air.

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01-13-2003, 08:17 PM

I had my cat declawed, but it was a very hard decision to make. He just destroyed everything. However, I didn't get it done by the regular way. There's a new laser declawing procedure that's very effective. It was a lot more expensive, but it was worth every penny. It doesn't hurt the cat as much because the laser is very precise.
My cat honestly doesn't seem affected by it and he healed within a couple of days.
They removed all the hair from his paws before doing it though. He looked a little weird for awhile.

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01-13-2003, 09:58 PM

You shouldn't remove the claws.

Here is a useful link on trimming the nails:
http://www.catscratching.com/#trimming

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01-14-2003, 10:46 AM

I agree with a lot of the posts....no reason to declaw her. The claw covers work wonders and don't cause permanent damage.

If she does start using the furniture to sharpen her claws, spray her with a water bottle. Or use a soda can with a penny in it to scare her away from the furniture.

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01-14-2003, 10:54 AM

Me too. I've owned several cats with nice leather furniture and never had a problem.

You just have to train them right, give them something to scratch on (post, cardboard scratcher), and keep their nails trimmed. My cats know the difference between their scratchers and our furniture.

Declawing (which should be called exterior knuckle removal) is for passive cat owners - those that don't really give a shit about their care.

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01-14-2003, 11:06 AM

I guess I'm a pushover, I just let them claw what they want, but they leave most of my furniture alone thankfully.

Their favorite places to scratch:

1/ floor to ceiling carpeted scratch post. (best investment)
2/ doorjam leading into master bath. (sharpens them like razors)
3/ my leather desk chair (oh well desk chairs wear out fast)
4/ hammered glass shower door (cant hurt that)
5/ corner of my bed (oh well)
6/ me (when administering their meds)

I find there claws everywhere, they shed like sharks teethe.
I also find a whisker here and there too. (i save them for good luck)
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01-14-2003, 02:57 PM

Rich, each time I adopted a kitty, I told myself I would have her declawed. (all my kitties have been females) When the time would arrive for me to do the nasty job, I would back out. All my kitties have hated scratching posts. They have been *inside* kitties.

My friends would drop by and stare at my ripped chairs, sofas, bedspreads....and my arms, and lecture me.

My best friend has a jaguarundi (sp). It has to be the meanest animal I have ever encountered. Her home is covered with ugly plastic covers. They might stop her cat from clawing the furniture, but she pisses all over the plastic and it runs off spilling onto the carpeting, and the entire place smells like urine.

My cats have always come before furniture. I just wish I had a few acres of wooded land for them to play....nails in tact!

Dig has the right idea. Find yourself a pet that doesn't claw your furniture. How about a rabbit? Snake? Dog? Fish?

Adopt a cat from the pound that has already been declawed and give your kitty to someone who loves cats and doesn't care if they tear up furniture. How about finding yourself a pet psychic or check with your vet and find a pet trainer who works with cats.

You have lots of alternatives without removing the nails. My cats always liked to have their nails clipped. I never went as far as to paint them with polish, but the thought crossed my mind because they enjoyed their little pedicures so much. (just kidding!)
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01-14-2003, 03:14 PM

Leather and cats not good. I would put covers on the furniture. I work for a manufacturer of leather furniture and I have heard alot of people say their furniture has gotten ruined. Even the cat just walking over the furniture and not actually using as a scratching post is going to make marks. Keep the covers on and keep her nails trimmed. If you do have some scratches that need to be repaired contact where you bought the chair. They should have some leather touchup paint to cover the scratches. If you can't find any shoot me an email or icq. I should be able to get ahold of a bottle for you.

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