Alertpay is a joke to say the least.
For us to create a business account for our Inc we had to get our company reg papers Notorized on a seperate document for them

That was in addition to submitting a large amount of other paperwork which is normal when creating a business account

It's a regular sausage fest over here at Paxum :winkwink: apart from me of course :upsidedow :1orglaugh

Can be that business and private usage differ much. I agree they were suspiciou s about what I do. But once settled after 2 deals its ok now.
And additionally its how *** Payoneer card can be used ***, AlertPay is in the list and you can fund your Payoneer card from AlerPay easily.

Yes i heard it's pain in the ass to create business account which is why i am on personal premier to avoid that shit.

i agree :2 cents:

Why trust any 3rd party money handler? Why not just use Wire Transfers? A $5000 commission payment will cost you only $25 or so and you get it directly in your bank, safely, insured, etc. Why risk your money ? Everyone in adult show know by now that until its in your bank, its a risk. Just look at Epassporte, iBill, MyVirtualCard, Probilling, etc... you need your money to run your business. Get it into your BANK ACCOUNT right away.

Because most people spread their risk, a $5k commission from one sponsor out of 100 would take some time to earn.

Common suggestion when I used to deposit cheques at the bank, they couldn't understand why I didn't use wires, until I pointed out that the 10 cheques I was depositing were from 10 different companies. :)

Yeah ok, you try receiving 50-300 micro payments of 50-500 bucks by wire.
Then run the math and shoot yourself :thumbsup

Ever thought about the fact that these systems are not solely used for paying affiliates?

so far I like Payoneer. I can go to the atm and withdraw my money, use it to buy groceries, and pay for my hosting.

Whats the max daily ATM withdrawal for Payoneer?

lol @ payoneer

A bit late for that...

Something is broken on payoneer,their faq/fees page not working.

paxum :)

That would be a major flaw if true.

You have been here since September and have 52 posts. Lurking is not going to cut it. :2 cents:

Hi! andreas!
I replied the same question before!
My account was "issued" by AWE, but my first payment was from FriendFinder. It was loaded without any problem.
It was in Sept/2010 and I never got a payment from AWE to Payoneer.
Its working fine until now!

Where do you get that from? Our program partner has set the fee at $3.95 for ATM withdrawals and this is clearly stated on our website as you know!

PXN is stating that it is FREE to send and receive funds between CashX Personal accounts and his comment was not regarding our prepaid card program.

It's not 7 bucks. I use it like 10 times already so I know! Nice trying to destroy your competitor, everyone knows what you are up to.

And even if it is 7 bucks at least I know I'm not using a bank card being investigate by the government for Mossad assassination! Good luck with that. :thumbsup

Nope. Keep guessing :upsidedow

WTF their funds are not even in Euro. I bet you are confuse with your paxum card.

Anyone with a CashX card can verify it not 7 bucks.

In any case like Loch said, trying to make your competitor looking bad is not going to help you.

Maybe let M.O. handle support and you find something else to do.

i would never, ever use this murderous company that is involved itself in terrorism like you can see with them providing the cards to a rogue state like israel

you really want your money used to fund terrorism? at least at epassporte it went to fund mallick's tan!!

Of course I agree with you that wires are too expensive for micropayments, but most affiliate programs let you adjust the minimum payout to a higher amount to make the cost of the transaction worth while.

I know someone who has his minimum payout set to $50.00. What ends up happening is that he was paying withdrawl fees, currency conversion fees, and ATM fees. The $50.00 was barely $40.00 by the time it was cash.

The best way save money is to set yourself up like this:

1. Increase the minimum payout. Instead of $50.00, consider $300, $500 or more.

2. Switch to wire payments.

2b. If you're in Canada, setup a US Bank account at your Canadian branch and have your wires sent to the US account instead. You will save alot of money on currency conversions.

Of course if you're just starting out and your affiliate commissions are smaller, a high min payout may be tough to do but when add up the fees you would pay out in a year the savings are significant.

Fail.....http://www.threadbombing.com/data/me...d-hat-fail.jpg

LOL...chances are that's a set-up pic, but still funny.

Yearly average usage cost for card alone (including yearly/monthly fee(s)):
6 atm withdrawals/month 15 pos transactions/month

CashX $284.4 + $35.4 + $18.75 + $0 = $338.55 (NN Travel card)
EMC2 $108 + $24 + $0 + $0 = $132 (Electron?)
Paxum $144 + $0 + $15 + $44.95 = $203.95 (Full network access named)

This is for card use only. No card load, wallet fees, p2p fees, inhouse fx fees, etc etc. If CashX and EMC2 currency conversions is an inhouse fee the cost increases.

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$2,500 daily!

Mark i think you are completely missing the point here.
I am not just talking about affiliate payouts, that is just a small part of this business.

The B2B side is HUGE
I know of affiliates that spend ALL of their partner money in paying for services....which is why systems like CashX, Paxum etc can even stay aflote.

Sure wires or checks from your main partners are nice, but ....

Anyways, different conversation..

Received another email from the Payoneer team.
If they dont shape up in the next month i just do not see how they can hang onto this industry.

upsssssssssss

the days of sending all your traffic into promoting one program like clickcash or tcg have been gone for a long time now. sure i get wires from my larger sponsors, but for the hundreds of other smaller niche programs i promote if i had to wait until a 500-1000 payout they would have closed up shop by then. many programs are closing up even before a 50-100 min is reached. this isn't 2003 anymore, not even 2006. things have changed.

"You must have minimum 3 payments of main sponzor if you will able to receive money of others payoneer partners." :(

Payoneer suck in many ways !

Ok, receiving an international wire costs me about 20 EUR. That's what my bank charges me. Plus sponsor wire fee of usually between $20 and $30. Then take into account that I'm promoting about 40 sponsors, just about 5 of them don't send just micropayments.

And no, I don't want to wait for half a year to finally get my money from my small sponsors, especially not if there's a way to receive it almost instantly, usually without any fee at all.

EMC2 Payouts does not charge 'in house' currency conversion fees. Any currency conversion fee that is charged by banks, networks, atm's, etc are passed through only. We have a new reduced fee schedule that LauraLee posted yesterday in another thread.

I'm with you, nothing but a good experience, just high fees, but very secure.

Soon as you get a couple payments (two with me) from a linked sponsor they email you and tell you it is now ok to use the "load to anyones card" feature but you have to have a couple payments first.

I also like how they give you your balance on the withdrawl slips (atm machine).

But on $400 transfer and withdrawl for example, they are (3.75 x 4) + 2 (2 day wait, 5 if immediate) load fee = $17.

or 4.25 %.

Way better than foreign wires but way too high for many I realize.

Not being able to withdraw from Paypal hurts many, thus, the need for good p2p like Paxum.

I will be getting a Paxum card to show my support as it is good for the industry :thumbsup and of course tax deductible too. :)

Thanks for clearing that up. Yep, your new fee schedule is reflected in the totals I calculated. Very competitive card fees indeed :thumbsup

100% Agree :thumbsup

Exactly the same situation with my Partner account. :disgust
Good luck to them with all that bullshit plus people not being able to send money to other accounts. :disgust
Their customer support for both types of accounts also sucks balls !!! Had to wait for answers to my simple questions for 4-5 days.

I'm actually glad I never was able to open an account their.
Paxum offered me cookies, milk and warm welcome. :thumbsup

I had one look at their system and clicked away to paxum and cashX. Payoneer sucks.