Legalize Ganja Vote Today???

[Matyko]

Americans on GFY!

If the vote is today, this can be a historical date!

[porn-mobile]

California as a pot-tourist destination... almost hard to fathom. I have no idea which way it'll go but I'm following this shit closely..

[Sarah_Jayne]

I have never been high in my life (probably about time, huh?) and even I am hoping it passes.

[cwd]

I sure hope it passes, but then again I thought Californians would allow same sex marriage, so who knows...

[dyna mo]

it's bad legislation and shouldn't pass.

[Matyko]

Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash

I have never been high in my life (probably about time, huh?) and even I am hoping it passes.

:************* ;)

[Matyko]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

it's bad legislation and shouldn't pass.

I am not familiar with the details, and curious why you say no.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Matyko

I am not familiar with the details, and curious why you say no.

jeopardizes federal funds for government jobs due to drug free workplace requirements

jeopardizes fed money for education system

supreme court has ruled federally illegal product sales do not have to pay collected sales tax to government

marijuana is already decriminalized

medicinal marijuana is easily and readily available

the proposition itself is poorly (extremely) worded such that it can be contested from various angles.

[Rand]

I honestly don't use the stuff but I've yet to hear a really good argument for prohibition. On the other hand, I hear a lot of good arguments for legalization.

The only real argument against passage I've heard is that it might further promote other more serious addictions as a gateway drug. That is an interesting argument. But, that is something that should be able to be resolved though education.


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[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by Rand

I honestly don't use the stuff but I've yet to hear a really good argument for prohibition. On the other hand, I hear a lot of good arguments for legalization.

The only real argument against passage I've heard is that it might further promote other more serious addictions as a gateway drug. That is an interesting argument. But, that is something that should be able to be resolved though education.


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cigarettes and alcohol are the gateway drugs - show me one who took marihuana before ever smoking a cigarette or drinking a beer

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Rand

I honestly don't use the stuff but I've yet to hear a really good argument for prohibition. On the other hand, I hear a lot of good arguments for legalization.

The only real argument against passage I've heard is that it might further promote other more serious addictions as a gateway drug. That is an interesting argument. But, that is something that should be able to be resolved though education.


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please research prior to voting

[Vendzilla]

For me it's already legal, just get a script, anyone can get one, cost about $150 on average, this is just bullshit that allows them to collect extra taxes on it

So I voted NO to prop 19. Hell around here it's hard to find a block without a house on it that isn't growing

[Matyko]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

jeopardizes federal funds for government jobs due to drug free workplace requirements

jeopardizes fed money for education system

supreme court has ruled federally illegal product sales do not have to pay collected sales tax to government

marijuana is already decriminalized

medicinal marijuana is easily and readily available

the proposition itself is poorly (extremely) worded such that it can be contested from various angles.

Thanks! I am still too [east]european to understand this american situation 100%.

Originally Posted by Rand

I honestly don't use the stuff but I've yet to hear a really good argument for prohibition. On the other hand, I hear a lot of good arguments for legalization.

The only real argument against passage I've heard is that it might further promote other more serious addictions as a gateway drug. That is an interesting argument. But, that is something that should be able to be resolved though education.


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Gateway drug theory failed big time long ago [btw wazzup with alcohol? its not a gateway drug? you can buy lethal dosage for a few bucks].

For long time now I don't blame any drugs, I blame lame users.

[XPays]

the word is that a lot of folks don't want it to pass this time around and then they hope to have a better version plus attracting young voters to vote for Obama in a couple of years.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

For me it's already legal, just get a script, anyone can get one, cost about $150 on average, this is just bullshit that allows them to collect extra taxes on it

So I voted NO to prop 19. Hell around here it's hard to find a block without a house on it that isn't growing

exactly. worse, they will raise the price due to the tax and not have to pay those collected taxes back to the state. that's a lose lose situation.

[woj]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

exactly. worse, they will raise the price due to the tax and not have to pay those collected taxes back to the state. that's a lose lose situation.

what are you talking about? Who will get the taxes if not the state?

[Matyko]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

exactly. worse, they will raise the price due to the tax and not have to pay those collected taxes back to the state. that's a lose lose situation.

Price might go down in a few years as more and more experienced growers are appearing.

If the taxes won't stay in the state thats bad, i don't even know how can it be...

You know, what I am interested in is the message to the rest of the world [especially EU] it spreads if this passes.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by woj

what are you talking about? Who will get the taxes if not the state?

i am talking about a supreme court ruling, as i mentioned above.

the sellers can and will keep the tax revenues.

[Amputate Your Head]

let's hope prop 19 goes down in flames

[Sarah_Jayne]

Maybe part of the reason it can be seen as a 'gateway' drug is because of the forbidden nature of it and the way in which people have had to go about getting it. If you have to go to less that trustworthy sources to get it then you are perhaps already mingling with the people that are able to 'push' you towards more dangerous substances. Make it less of something people have to be sneaky about and perhaps it would stop being such a gateway (if it really is at all) because people aren't having to go to those lengths to get it.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

let's hope prop 19 goes down in flames

Ok, thats funny

I think I'll burn it right now

[Matyko]

if i rethink, it was a gateway drug for me... gateway to eat mushrooms and acid and psy chemicals between the age of 20-27 All these trips made me understand the world and people and myself better and also I think it made me a better person. so in the end it was a gateway to something good.

From my 'childhood' smoker friends only a very few smokes still, and NO ONE went to 'hard drugs' or got addicted to some serious shit.

[Matyko]

Very interesting info:
Hungarian millionaire Gyorgy Soros is funding the case with 1 million USD from the total campaign costs of 3.8m
Meanwhile Meg Whitman spends 142m from his private $$$ to sit in the chair of the Terminator. WOW!

[Penthouse Tony]

Originally Posted by XPays

the word is that a lot of folks don't want it to pass this time around and then they hope to have a better version plus attracting young voters to vote for Obama in a couple of years.

California should go to Obama in 2 years no matter what. If California is up for grabs then he's got bigger problems and probably going to lose the overall election.

[Badmaash]

Legalize marijuana - prop 19

[Matyko]

[XPays]

Originally Posted by Sagi_AFF

California should go to Obama in 2 years no matter what. If California is up for grabs then he's got bigger problems and probably going to lose the overall election.

normally i would agree, but you got whitman and backlash so i think it is in the bigger problems category.

[sologirlcontent]

Originally Posted by Matyko

fingers crossed

[SetTheWorldonFire]

lol nice!

[adwank]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

cigarettes and alcohol are the gateway drugs - show me one who took marihuana before ever smoking a cigarette or drinking a beer

Exactly, I totally agree...

[Matyko]

too bad this failed. ;)

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

cigarettes and alcohol are the gateway drugs - show me one who took marihuana before ever smoking a cigarette or drinking a beer

q f t

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash

I have never been high in my life (probably about time, huh?) and even I am hoping it passes.

I bet it won't. Let's see ok?

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

cigarettes and alcohol are the gateway drugs - show me one who took marihuana before ever smoking a cigarette or drinking a beer

Show me the one who got his/her first heroine injection before ever smoking a cigarette or drinking a beer. Let's legalize heroine as MaDalton suggests

[Davy]

Ganja is loosing, man!

[seeandsee]

so how this ended?

[Oracle Porn]

It didn't pass because some stoners didn't like the wordings of the proposition, idiots.
This could of changed the world. If it will be legal in the states it will become legal in many other places.

P.S. like true stoners they only care about their own high. very common.

[dyna mo]

some people have no idea what they are talking about, yet they call those who do idiots.

that's gfy.

[Oracle Porn]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

some people have no idea what they are talking about, yet they call those who do idiots.

that's gfy.

No one gives a shit about the small details in the outside world, i know most americans can't grasp that, you need to look at the big picture. You had a chance and you blew it because of small details, who knows when or if the next time will be.

[dyna mo]

again-

some people have no idea what they are talking about.

that's gfy.