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  • lucPL
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2005
    • 305

    #1

    Paxum card + ATM in europe

    = what currency exchange rate ? how much % is lost ?

    we already know that taking out euros or other currency with payoneer card will cost a LOT (like 3%) i wonder what are paxum (or rather mastercard) fees.
  • Yngwie
    I am an Alien from space
    • May 2003
    • 11118

    #2
    I don't know what, if any, are the fees, but here's a bump.
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    • JFK
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      • Jan 2002
      • 67373

      #3
      I think the conversion rate is set by master card or issuing bank , not by paxum or payoneer. It was the same with epass

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      • Chris
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        • May 2003
        • 27880

        #4
        Originally posted by JFK
        I think the conversion rate is set by master card or issuing bank , not by paxum or payoneer. It was the same with epass
        What he said.

        Paxum does not charge any Forex fee of our own. The Forex fees are charged by MC and the different banks involved in the transaction.
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        • Klen
          • Aug 2006
          • 32235

          #5
          Originally posted by JFK
          I think the conversion rate is set by master card or issuing bank , not by paxum or payoneer. It was the same with epass
          Even if you withdraw foreign money with your bank card?

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          • Chosen
            • Aug 2001
            • 63151

            #6
            Originally posted by KlenTelaris
            Even if you withdraw foreign money with your bank card?
            Exchange rate is probably set by issuing bank...

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            • TeenCat
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              • Jan 2007
              • 16139

              #7
              man you say 3percents is much ... if i take it as 35pps, 3percents is one dollar? so now you have 34pps ... oh what a fucking world we are living in ... sorry ... i know that for someone is hundred dollars much, but come on, look what work are you doing, how can you be pissed about 3percents fee to withdraw your porn money ...

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              • Dreamteam
                Confirmed User
                • Feb 2010
                • 472

                #8
                Originally posted by lucPL
                = what currency exchange rate ? how much % is lost ?

                we already know that taking out euros or other currency with payoneer card will cost a LOT (like 3%) i wonder what are paxum (or rather mastercard) fees.


                I'm going to stay out of all those paxum threads.

                I did enough already for that company.
                Some people neg rep'd me because I support paxum. pffffff amusing.


                But If it can help ... 600 euros -> $848.16 (paxum cash from a "euro" ATM)
                Thats +9,40 euros (mc exchange fee + atm fees)


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                Last edited by Dreamteam; 10-29-2010, 12:10 PM.

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                • JFK
                  FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                  • Jan 2002
                  • 67373

                  #9
                  Originally posted by KlenTelaris
                  Even if you withdraw foreign money with your bank card?
                  YES, it applies with foreign money transactions especially

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                  • pornguy
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                    • Mar 2003
                    • 62912

                    #10
                    Originally posted by JFK
                    I think the conversion rate is set by master card or issuing bank , not by paxum or payoneer. It was the same with epass
                    I think the conversion rate is set by the bank that runs the ATM.. Might want to make sure to use a Bank ATM and Not a private ATM that way you get the best rate.
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                    • willwank
                      Confirmed User
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 628

                      #11
                      Originally posted by pornguy
                      I think the conversion rate is set by the bank that runs the ATM.. Might want to make sure to use a Bank ATM and Not a private ATM that way you get the best rate.
                      Yep, avoid those "rogue" bar ATMs
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                      • greenlab
                        Confirmed User
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 252

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Dreamteam
                        I'm going to stay out of all those paxum threads.

                        I did enough already for that company.
                        Some people neg rep'd me because I support paxum. pffffff amusing.


                        But If it can help ... 600 euros -> $848.16 (paxum cash from a "euro" ATM)
                        Thats +9,40 euros (mc exchange fee + atm fees)


                        .
                        so this means the exchange conversion rate is around 1%...

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                        • Klen
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 32235

                          #13
                          Hmm i dont know,when i was withdrawing money with my etrade visa electron card,i didnt noticed any fee,not even declared 1$ fee,but who knows maybe i took too small amount.

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                          • Dreamteam
                            Confirmed User
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 472

                            #14
                            Originally posted by greenlab
                            so this means the exchange conversion rate is around 1%...
                            I don't know.
                            I have to withdraw a smaller amount to see the difference.
                            Maybe there is a fixed atm fee in it.

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                            • willwank
                              Confirmed User
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 628

                              #15
                              Originally posted by greenlab
                              so this means the exchange conversion rate is around 1%...
                              I calculated mine to be 1.15% But that was CDN$ / US$
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                              • greenlab
                                Confirmed User
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 252

                                #16
                                Originally posted by KlenTelaris
                                Hmm i dont know,when i was withdrawing money with my etrade visa electron card,i didnt noticed any fee,not even declared 1$ fee,but who knows maybe i took too small amount.

                                Etrade is the best card, they dont charge any currency conversion fee like paxum and others, you get the real VISA exchange rate, with no mark-ups from the card issuer....

                                However it looks like Paxum even if they have a fee of aprox 1%, they are still better then Payoneer who has 3%....

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                                • greenlab
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Oct 2002
                                  • 252

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Dreamteam
                                  I don't know.
                                  I have to withdraw a smaller amount to see the difference.
                                  Maybe there is a fixed atm fee in it.
                                  yes there is a fixed ATM fee in it, it's 2$...the rest are just FX conversion fees..

                                  International ATM Withdrawal $2.00

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                                  • lucPL
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Feb 2005
                                    • 305

                                    #18
                                    ok se we have an answer, its comparable to epassporte, then propably had even worse rate like 1.5%

                                    1% is fine it cant be better, 3% of payoneer is fuckin STEAL

                                    im voting for paxum because im from europe and exchange rate is very important for me.

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                                    • Firestarter30
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Sep 2010
                                      • 167

                                      #19
                                      Lets face it... epass was the most affordable in "fee saving" from any other competitor online...
                                      Sad but true..
                                      Also for me the exchange rate is very important... hope one day it will drop to 1:1 :D

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                                      • V_RocKs
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                                        • Nov 2003
                                        • 32449

                                        #20
                                        Would be nice to see a company set one of these cards up that has this in place:

                                        Headquarters set up and getting paid in local currency in Japan, China, UK, Spain, Germany, US, Canada, Mexico, Brazil, Italy.

                                        Then when you go to the ATM they give you your currency at the exchange rate without a fee because they are literally just transferring it internally.

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                                        • BJ
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Mar 2002
                                          • 5590

                                          #21
                                          and nobody is concerned a penis pill company is in control of all this?

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                                          • Dirty Dane
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                                            • Feb 2004
                                            • 9491

                                            #22
                                            Always use swift for bigger amounts. Then you get parity ratio = no loss

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                                            • lucPL
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Feb 2005
                                              • 305

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by BJ
                                              and nobody is concerned a penis pill company is in control of all this?
                                              why ? maybe we will get enlargement free

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                                              • webgurl
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Aug 2002
                                                • 7954

                                                #24
                                                Anybody withdrawl cash from U.K yet? The Sterling/pounds is more than the Euros.
                                                I would be curious in knowing the rate for this.

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                                                • andrej_NDC
                                                  Registered User
                                                  • May 2004
                                                  • 7760

                                                  #25
                                                  Much better than epass, from what I remember.

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                                                  • SallyRand
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                                                    • Jan 2008
                                                    • 3487

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Dreamteam
                                                    I don't know.
                                                    I have to withdraw a smaller amount to see the difference.
                                                    Maybe there is a fixed atm fee in it.
                                                    ATM fees, that is the fee charged by the bank owning the ATM, vary from bank to bank and from location to location.

                                                    Did you know that at some casinos the ATM fee can be as much as $20?

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                                                    • Argos88
                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                      • Sep 2009
                                                      • 1732

                                                      #27
                                                      Just a question, is it really SECURE to send all those scanned documents and such to this place, to verify the account?

                                                      Did everyone here sent their personal SCANNED DOCUMENTS to them to verify their account?

                                                      I ask, because PAYPAL DOESN'T ask for SCANNED DOCUMENTS, VERY SENSIBLE info and such... They ask for a credit card and then they verify, but not SCANNED DOCUMENTS and STATEMENTS, PASSPORTS or even PHOTO IDS... (¿?)

                                                      did everyone here with a verified account at paxum sent their SCANNED DOCUMENTS to them?

                                                      Is it really SECURE? How do they protect our information and SCANNED Documents?

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                                                      Last edited by Argos88; 11-18-2010, 02:38 PM.

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                                                      • SallyRand
                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                        • Jan 2008
                                                        • 3487

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Argos88
                                                        Just a question, is it really SECURE to send all those scanned documents and such to this place, to verify the account?

                                                        Did everyone here sent their personal SCANNED DOCUMENTS to them to verify their account?

                                                        I ask, because PAYPAL DOESN'T ask for SCANNED DOCUMENTS, VERY SENSIBLE info and such... They ask for a credit card and then they verify, but not SCANNED DOCUMENTS and STATEMENTS, PASSPORTS or even PHOTO IDS... (¿?)

                                                        did everyone here with a verified account at paxum sent their SCANNED DOCUMENTS to them?

                                                        Is it really SECURE? How do they protect our information and SCANNED Documents?

                                                        .
                                                        Yes both myself and several of my affiliates have set up Paxum Business accounts and uploaded all required documents. My phone conversations with the Mark at Paxum have been extensive and I believe that security within the Paxum operation is held by them as paramount. Your personal info is safe and secure with Paxum.

                                                        By the way, Paypal will most certainly require scanned docs, phone, email and postal verification and if Paypal is still not convinced, it will send a little electronic PIN number generator to your registered Paypal shipping address, which device you then must use each time that you log into your Paypal account. Crazy but true!

                                                        Paypal may also lock up your funds if it wants more verification and if you don't provide it, the funds can remain locked for up to 180 days.

                                                        The main reason that ePassporte was shut down was because of it's lack of verification, which came no where near meeting the requirments of the various applicable laws.

                                                        Paxum meets the legal requirements going in and up front.

                                                        If you are concerned about higher levels of anonymity, hit me up some time on IM and I might be able to help you.

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                                                        • Chris
                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                          • May 2003
                                                          • 27880

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Argos88
                                                          Just a question, is it really SECURE to send all those scanned documents and such to this place, to verify the account?

                                                          Did everyone here sent their personal SCANNED DOCUMENTS to them to verify their account?

                                                          I ask, because PAYPAL DOESN'T ask for SCANNED DOCUMENTS, VERY SENSIBLE info and such... They ask for a credit card and then they verify, but not SCANNED DOCUMENTS and STATEMENTS, PASSPORTS or even PHOTO IDS... (¿?)

                                                          did everyone here with a verified account at paxum sent their SCANNED DOCUMENTS to them?

                                                          Is it really SECURE? How do they protect our information and SCANNED Documents?

                                                          .
                                                          paypal is not giving out international cards either.

                                                          I'm not going to go into detail on how your information is secured .. well that would just be stupid to post all that information publicly but ill say this

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                                                          • faxxaff
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Dec 2002
                                                            • 2134

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by pornguy
                                                            I think the conversion rate is set by the bank that runs the ATM.. Might want to make sure to use a Bank ATM and Not a private ATM that way you get the best rate.
                                                            Just withdraw the same amount of cash with 2 different cards at the same ATM and you will observe huge differences in exchange fees. Some banks/cards offer better rates so I would conclude, issuing banks set the rates.
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                                                            • lesbondlinks
                                                              Registered User
                                                              • Oct 2007
                                                              • 66

                                                              #31
                                                              I got my card around 10 days ago. Today I saw I received some payment so I went to ATM to withdraw the money. I withdrew 450 TL which is normally 305$. I had 330$ at paxum card. 19$ left after withdrew.

                                                              So the exchange costed me 6$. If I chose to receive that payment with check it costs 40-42$ / check and it takes 3-4 weeks for bank to process that check. Wire costs me 25-40$ depend on programs.

                                                              I don't know how it is for US webmasters but Paxum seems working well for non-us webmasters like me. It is way more practical than alternative payment methods.
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                                                              • ContentPimp
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                                                                • Nov 2008
                                                                • 3184

                                                                #32
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                                                                • Get2PayJared
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                                                                  • Sep 2010
                                                                  • 57

                                                                  #33
                                                                  A couple of things...

                                                                  There is an exchange rate set by VISA and MC, but more card program managers, up charge that, like faxxaf mentioned - This should be listed in the terms and conditions.

                                                                  Regarding SallyRands comments about ATM fees, there are two atms fees, one charged by the card issuers/program manager and one charged by the ATM itself.

                                                                  Card issuers/program managers cannot control the ATM fee at the actual ATM nor do they share in it.
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                                                                  • Michael O
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                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                    • 10607

                                                                    #34
                                                                    What Get2PayJared said.

                                                                    MC/Visa charges a exchange fee which is a little below 1% and have different ways to set the exchange rate but normally is pretty fair.

                                                                    The issuer of the card have an option to charge a flat fee, a percentage of the transaction, a combination of the two or a flat fee or a percentage of the transaction what ever is higher.

                                                                    The owner of the ATM can then charge a fee as well, some do some don't, some countries it have to be disclosed in others it don't have to be disclosed.
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                                                                    • xarizmendi
                                                                      Registered User
                                                                      • Apr 2010
                                                                      • 94

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I get a 2usd fee from paxum plus a 2.3usd fee from the atm, I can only get around 800+ per withdrawal, but that is way cheaper than paying for a bank wire which is 50usd plus bank fees.
                                                                      So i really cant complain at all

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                                                                      • RuthB
                                                                        Let's Get Paxumized!
                                                                        • May 2005
                                                                        • 7248

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by xarizmendi
                                                                        I get a 2usd fee from paxum plus a 2.3usd fee from the atm, I can only get around 800+ per withdrawal, but that is way cheaper than paying for a bank wire which is 50usd plus bank fees.
                                                                        So i really cant complain at all
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                                                                        • lucPL
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                                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                                          • 305

                                                                          #37
                                                                          paxum exchange rate is unbeatable, only 0.7% which is best of the best, you can find better rate only on forex

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