Content Removal Services

[Barefootsies]

I believe there are a handful of them out there available and recommended. I know there is RemoveYourContent, but whom else? Also, anyone who has success stories feel free to post them up.

Fire away ladies.

[DamianJ]

I'd love to see a case study, from a client, showing how they started paying x to a company and saw a direct increase in sales of x+ to not only cover the cost of the retainer, but to actually turn a profit from the exercise.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

I'd love to see a case study, from a client, showing how they started paying x to a company and saw a direct increase in sales of x+ to not only cover the cost of the retainer, but to actually turn a profit from the exercise.

I know Robbie has had some success and at least use/d them in the past.

I do not know about the 'profit' part of the equation. However, I would be interested in the recommendations and results of the service over the long haul. Some have been rumored to be using them for at least 6-12 months by now.

[sweetcuties]

bump, I send out DMCA's weekly... just today, had 2 sites remove my stuff. DMCA's work but it's a pain in the ass

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by sweetcuties

bump, I send out DMCA's weekly... just today, had 2 sites remove my stuff. DMCA's work but it's a pain in the ass

True dat.

Which is why some people contract out that service, and automation.

[The Porn Nerd]

Two things:

1. I used RemoveYourContent for three months and was extremely happy with the work they did. But here's the thing: seeing a "direct correlation" between removal of illegal content and sales/profits is not something that happens - immediately. Over time, with less "out there" I believe you can see a dramatic result. Three months was not long enough to remove all (or most) of the content so you would need to go longer than that, I think.

2. Isn't Clips4Sale now promoting a similar removal service?

[signupdamnit]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

I'd love to see a case study, from a client, showing how they started paying x to a company and saw a direct increase in sales of x+ to not only cover the cost of the retainer, but to actually turn a profit from the exercise.

It definitely makes a difference. Especially if you are able to wipe out all pirate results from the first couple pages of Google and the main pirate sites. I even recently saw a surfer on a pirate board actually post a message claiming "this was his last attempt before giving up and paying". Happily I noted he received no replies.

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

But here's the thing: seeing a "direct correlation" between removal of illegal content and sales/profits is not something that happens - immediately. Over time, with less "out there" I believe you can see a dramatic result. Three months was not long enough to remove all (or most) of the content so you would need to go longer than that, I think.

Getting the pirate stuff out also helps your affiliate conversions. If affiliate conversions drop too low you may lose the affiliate altogether if they decide to move on to someone else. I love seeing sponsors take an active role against the piracy. I often see a difference in conversions depending on how much pirated content is out there.

[Nautilus]

Originally Posted by signupdamnit

I even recently saw a surfer on a pirate board actually post a message claiming "this was his last attempt before giving up and paying". Happily I noted he received no replies.

That's really cool observation. What board it was?

[Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by Nautilus

That's really cool observation. What board it was?

www.gfy.com

[signupdamnit]

Originally Posted by Nautilus

That's really cool observation. What board it was?

I don't recall. I was searching a sponsor last night and saw it. I tried for a few minutes to find the message but couldn't. I'll check some more and see if I can find it from my cache. I'm kicking myself for not saving it. It definitely wasn't on GFY. This was a pirate forum.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

2. Isn't Clips4Sale now promoting a similar removal service?

Yes. I believe they do.

However, I have not read any direct feedback/experience/results from those using it.

[signupdamnit]

Originally Posted by Nautilus

That's really cool observation. What board it was?

Here it is. Looks like it's a password request forum but still.

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Not sure what's up. The forum itself looks legit on the outside but it looks like they have a special section to trade passwords.

forums.security-forum.net/passwords-requests/

(Links coded to prevent helping them)

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by signupdamnit

It definitely makes a difference. Especially if you are able to wipe out all pirate results from the first couple pages of Google and the main pirate sites.

That's great for you. But I really need to see a demonstrable ROI before I recommend expenditure. This is 2010, we are on the interwebs. You can test and measure anything. If not, why not?

[Mr. Cool Ice]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

I'd love to see a case study, from a client, showing how they started paying x to a company and saw a direct increase in sales of x+ to not only cover the cost of the retainer, but to actually turn a profit from the exercise.

I think it would depend on what it is you're selling. If it's generic porn star shit like so many sites have, I doubt you would see any increase at all because those same girls can be found everywhere getting fucked on a couch by the same guys. But if you have something unique that can only be found on your site, I'm sure it would help your bottom line if those who may otherwise pay for it, can't get it for free.

[Slutboat]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

I'd love to see a case study, from a client, showing how they started paying x to a company and saw a direct increase in sales of x+ to not only cover the cost of the retainer, but to actually turn a profit from the exercise.

Damian you are here ONCE AGAIN providing cover for Pirates? Is your pea brain large enough to understand that this is as much as psychological battle as a practical battle?

The public and the pirates will lose interest in the pursuit when measures are taken against them that make it KNOWN that they COULD come under attack for their content thievery.

You say that the efforts of the RIAA and all the anti-piracy measures enacted globally in the last 15 years have been futile? You, my friend, are quite wrong. In fact you are indeed FULL OF SHIT. These measures have put a strong seed of DOUBT AND FEAR into the minds of people that are about to attempt to steal intellectual property. They know there is a CHANCE, however remote, that they could be sued or arrested.

From your posts you have shown that you have extensive knowledge of torrents, the various thief networks, and sites that host rip offs. Why are you so well versed in these things? Does anyone else find it odd that the single biggest loud mouth in support of Piracy (which is what you are doing every time you say Resistance is Futile against Piracy) is also such a seeming PRO when it comes to rip off methods and networks?

I'm not accusing you of ACTUAL PIRACY dude so spare me the boo hoo I want Slutboat banned you fucking crybaby. What I AM ACCUSING you of is supporting the CONCEPT and PRACTICE of PIRACY.

Every time you come on here and voice your absurd opinion that nothing can be done to stop the pirates (I have read your website...I'm talking about the offensive attacks on pirates) you are providing cover for rip offs and undermining the hard work of the people who actually give a fuck about saving the industry.

[Slutboat]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

That's great for you. But I really need to see a demonstrable ROI before I recommend expenditure. This is 2010, we are on the interwebs. You can test and measure anything. If not, why not?

So presumably you have important site owners as clients that actually give a fuck what you recommend to them?

And your recommendation is do fun new and cooler stuff like offering a hand written letter? A pair of panties? But don't spend a couple hundred bucks a month to have pirates hassled the moment their shit is seen on the web?

The fact that you can not understand that there are ramifications to the assault on piracy that are VERY UNMEASURABLE as direct cause and effect from a specific action is astonishing to me. You are one hell of an expert.

[Klen]

Btw anyone knows what price charges ryc and similar services?

[Half man, Half Amazing]

Hit me up for Takedown Piracy. I have about 30 clients including Kink.com, Digital Playground, Evil Angel, Wicked Pictures, Hush Hush Entertainment, Pornfidelity, Adam & Eve, PornPros and many more. Feel free to ask any of those for a referral. My rate is ridiculously cheap and I've removed nearly one million copyright infringements.

nate at takedownpiracy dot com

[Slutboat]

Originally Posted by Half man, Half Amazing

Hit me up for Takedown Piracy. I have about 30 clients including Kink.com, Digital Playground, Evil Angel, Wicked Pictures, Hush Hush Entertainment, Pornfidelity, Adam & Eve, PornPros and many more. Feel free to ask any of those for a referral. My rate is ridiculously cheap and I've removed nearly one million copyright infringements.

nate at takedownpiracy dot com

BUMP for takedown!

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

I'd love to see a case study, from a client, showing how they started paying x to a company and saw a direct increase in sales of x+ to not only cover the cost of the retainer, but to actually turn a profit from the exercise.

In plain English.

Please do nothing to protect your content so I can pirate more of it.

[SteveHardeman]

I use RYC and have for....hmmmm, can't remember exactly but I'd guess around 2 years. There may be others out there but RYC has never given me any reason to look. They get a huge portion of my stuff down. Maybe once per month I find something on my own. It's REALLY nice to not have to deal with the DMCA myself. I just fire off an email to RYC and they handle it. For me, the fee they charge is well worth it. But don't tell them I said that I don't want my fees increased. :-)

[ultimatebbwdotcom]

RYC user.....18 months now. Good service and priced very well

[The Porn Nerd]

Using such services again are on my Priority List for 2011.

[Alprazolam]

given that ryc chooses the companies they want to do anti-piracy for, i'd say that pretty much shows who knows their craft best. i never see them begging for work.

[Major (Tom)]

ryc rocks
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[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by Slutboat

Damian you are here ONCE AGAIN providing cover for Pirates?

Please quote where I am doing that. Or are you just talking shit, again?

Originally Posted by Slutboat

Is your pea brain large enough to understand that this is as much as psychological battle as a practical battle?

Not sure what that has to do with asking if anyone has a case study that proves this adds revenue?

Originally Posted by Slutboat

The public and the pirates will lose interest in the pursuit when measures are taken against them that make it KNOWN that they COULD come under attack for their content thievery.

The music, film and video game industries would disagree with you.

Originally Posted by Slutboat

You say that the efforts of the RIAA and all the anti-piracy measures enacted globally in the last 15 years have been futile?

Well, it's still very easy to pirate something if you want to. So yes.

Originally Posted by Slutboat

You, my friend, are quite wrong.

I am sure you have some example or citations to back up your spurious claim that the RIAA have had any impact on piracy except for publicising how easy it is? Or are you just talking out of your arse?

Originally Posted by Slutboat

In fact you are indeed FULL OF SHIT.

What specifically that I am saying do you think is wrong? PS swearing really helps make your point seem more substantial.

Originally Posted by Slutboat

These measures have put a strong seed of DOUBT AND FEAR into the minds of people that are about to attempt to steal intellectual property. They know there is a CHANCE, however remote, that they could be sued or arrested.

Why is traffic higher than ever on pirate sites then, love? Why does that traffic increase during high profile cases?

Originally Posted by Slutboat

From your posts you have shown that you have extensive knowledge of torrents, the various thief networks, and sites that host rip offs. Why are you so well versed in these things?

I am interested in technology, I am interested in people stealing my clients work and the impact that has on their bottom line - which is what they pay me from. It's my livelihood.

I am also interested in people pretending to know how to stop piracy.

Hope that helps you understand.

Originally Posted by Slutboat

Does anyone else find it odd that the single biggest loud mouth in support of Piracy (which is what you are doing every time you say Resistance is Futile against Piracy) is also such a seeming PRO when it comes to rip off methods and networks?

Darling, I know this is REALLY hard for you to understand, but let me say it again. Slowly. Just for you.

I am not in favour of blackmailing people that pay for an IP address. This does not mean I am in favour of piracy.

Why do you find that so hard to understand?

Originally Posted by Slutboat

I'm not accusing you of ACTUAL PIRACY dude so spare me the boo hoo I want Slutboat banned you fucking crybaby. What I AM ACCUSING you of is supporting the CONCEPT and PRACTICE of PIRACY.

Well please post some proof where I support the concept and practise of piracy. All I am doing is OPPOSING the concept of blackmailing IP addresses.

Very simple. Call me out and provide proof, otherwise you are just talking out of your arse.

Originally Posted by Slutboat

Every time you come on here and voice your absurd opinion that nothing can be done to stop the pirates (I have read your website...I'm talking about the offensive attacks on pirates) you are providing cover for rip offs and undermining the hard work of the people who actually give a fuck about saving the industry.

Well, there's been 500 years of people trying to stop piracy. Agreed on that? Good. The MPAA, RIAA, TV companies and software houses have tried to stop piracy. Agreed on that? They all have more money, resources, legal teams and time that porn people do. Agreed?

THEY HAVE ALL FAILED TO STOP PIRACY.

YOU CANNOT STOP PIRACY.

Why do you think you can succeed where people MUCH better than you have failed?

However, this thread is about something else, well done for hijacking it.

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

In plain English.

Please do nothing to protect your content so I can pirate more of it.

Paul, I recommend services for a variety of very high profile clients. I need to demonstrate a ROI. If I buy ads with Ero, I have to show it works. If I make a podcast, I have to show it works. If I recommend someone spends x a month with a content removal service, I have to prove it works.

It's awfully telling no one actually can prove if it works.

Hey, you are old and almost dead and don't care. You've retired, so you claim. So I get that YOU don't care if you can show and ROI. Heck, you probably don't even know what it stands for.

However, I have to justify my existance to clients. If the things I recommend do not increase their bottom line, what the fuck is the point of doing them?

You can cut and paste below and respond:

"Damian, the point of doing something that doesn't provide a ROI is..."

[RycEric]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

Paul, I recommend services for a variety of very high profile clients. I need to demonstrate a ROI. If I buy ads with Ero, I have to show it works. If I make a podcast, I have to show it works. If I recommend someone spends x a month with a content removal service, I have to prove it works.

It's awfully telling no one actually can prove if it works.

Hey, you are old and almost dead and don't care. You've retired, so you claim. So I get that YOU don't care if you can show and ROI. Heck, you probably don't even know what it stands for.

However, I have to justify my existance to clients. If the things I recommend do not increase their bottom line, what the fuck is the point of doing them?

You can cut and paste below and respond:

"Damian, the point of doing something that doesn't provide a ROI is..."

Damian,

We are providing a service. We are not a revenue stream such as the advertising networks mentioned above. The person cutting my hair does not give me an ROI. I can cut it myself or have somebody else do it for me, however, I choose to leave in the hands of someone who will save me time and has been doing it as a profession.

[gideongallery]

Originally Posted by Slutboat

Damian you are here ONCE AGAIN providing cover for Pirates? Is your pea brain large enough to understand that this is as much as psychological battle as a practical battle?

The public and the pirates will lose interest in the pursuit when measures are taken against them that make it KNOWN that they COULD come under attack for their content thievery.

You say that the efforts of the RIAA and all the anti-piracy measures enacted globally in the last 15 years have been futile? You, my friend, are quite wrong. In fact you are indeed FULL OF SHIT. These measures have put a strong seed of DOUBT AND FEAR into the minds of people that are about to attempt to steal intellectual property. They know there is a CHANCE, however remote, that they could be sued or arrested.

From your posts you have shown that you have extensive knowledge of torrents, the various thief networks, and sites that host rip offs. Why are you so well versed in these things? Does anyone else find it odd that the single biggest loud mouth in support of Piracy (which is what you are doing every time you say Resistance is Futile against Piracy) is also such a seeming PRO when it comes to rip off methods and networks?

I'm not accusing you of ACTUAL PIRACY dude so spare me the boo hoo I want Slutboat banned you fucking crybaby. What I AM ACCUSING you of is supporting the CONCEPT and PRACTICE of PIRACY.

Every time you come on here and voice your absurd opinion that nothing can be done to stop the pirates (I have read your website...I'm talking about the offensive attacks on pirates) you are providing cover for rip offs and undermining the hard work of the people who actually give a fuck about saving the industry.

slutboat you are so wrong the RIAA/MPAA battle only increase the piracy, the main reason being that they went after fair use too. The fact is the current their rich enough backlash is actually the expression of a legitimate fair use complaint. They just don't realize it so they simply rationalize all their activities (infringing and non infringing).

There is a huge difference between RYC is doing, and what i teach people to do.

When you respect fair use you get the benefit of removing your content and NO backlash either.

[Half man, Half Amazing]

Originally Posted by RycEric

Damian,

We are providing a service. We are not a revenue stream such as the advertising networks mentioned above. The person cutting my hair does not give me an ROI. I can cut it myself or have somebody else do it for me, however, I choose to leave in the hands of someone who will save me time and has been doing it as a profession.

[Helix]

serious business

[Slutboat]

Originally Posted by gideongallery

slutboat you are so wrong the RIAA/MPAA battle only increase the piracy, the main reason being that they went after fair use too. The fact is the current their rich enough backlash is actually the expression of a legitimate fair use complaint. They just don't realize it so they simply rationalize all their activities (infringing and non infringing).

There is a huge difference between RYC is doing, and what i teach people to do.

When you respect fair use you get the benefit of removing your content and NO backlash either.

Jesus Christ there are some dumb fucks here - dude what country are you from? RIAA/MPAA has increased piracy? Yea thats why itunes sales have increased exponentially and there is a fucking LINE for my local Red Box every night..

New tougher anti-piracy laws and the RIAA have been INCREDIBLY SUCCESSFUL here in the US in the psychological warfare against piracy. People BUY shit now because they are AFRAID to STEAL music and movies for fear of being caught.

Let me restate that point for you fucking rejects:

PEOPLE ARE AFRAID TO STEAL MUSIC AND MOVIES

You guys think that because there are still Limewire and Torrents available that the war against piracy in mainstream has been futile? Wake the fuck up - back when Napster came out NO ONE BOUGHT MUSIC and the recording industry was in total ruin.

DamianJ and others who come on here calling the latest assault on pirates "Blackmail" are probably worried about some of the ripped member sections sitting on their hard drives.

[Slutboat]

Originally Posted by RycEric

Damian,

We are providing a service. We are not a revenue stream such as the advertising networks mentioned above. The person cutting my hair does not give me an ROI. I can cut it myself or have somebody else do it for me, however, I choose to leave in the hands of someone who will save me time and has been doing it as a profession.

Well said - amazing that some people in this industry need to have things explained to them as if they are children.

[boneprone]

Remove Your Content Is pretty good. Im not sure what they charge but they do a pretty good job.

[Nathan]

Originally Posted by RycEric

Damian,

We are providing a service. We are not a revenue stream such as the advertising networks mentioned above. The person cutting my hair does not give me an ROI. I can cut it myself or have somebody else do it for me, however, I choose to leave in the hands of someone who will save me time and has been doing it as a profession.

Eric,

Your ROI on getting your hair cut by someone with a clue of how to cut your hair, is better lucks --> better chances to land with girls --> more sex.

There is your ROI... If you can cut your hair yourself and look as stunning as you do with a professional haircut (however stunning you look, since I have never seen you ) ... more power to you! ;)

RYC, what DO you charge actually? And what EXACTLY is the service you provide?

[Nathan]

Regarding the actual thread...

Any business decision needs an ROI. That's just how business works, nobody spends money for the fun of it. Even if the ROI comes from RYC being cheaper than employing your own team to do it, there is your ROI.

Obviously, for someone that does not do DMCAs currently, an ROI is harder to grasp, since that company does not seem it is needed to do DMCAs in the first place.

For such a company, what is RYC's or other companies' arguments to actually use the service? I somehow do not see it not having to do with an ROI?

[AZNNC]

RYC is awesome. Eric has spent a lot of time, and invested a lot of money to make sure he can do the best job removing content.

[RycEric]

Originally Posted by Nathan

Eric,

Your ROI on getting your hair cut by someone with a clue of how to cut your hair, is better lucks --> better chances to land with girls --> more sex.

There is your ROI... If you can cut your hair yourself and look as stunning as you do with a professional haircut (however stunning you look, since I have never seen you ) ... more power to you! ;)

RYC, what DO you charge actually? And what EXACTLY is the service you provide?

The charges vary based on the campaign, specific content reach, historical saturation, frequency of infringements, number of sites or releases etc.. However most campaigns are fixed at a set price and we have never raised prices after the fact. We go into each campaign expecting to encounter the worst (in terms of piracy). That said, each campaign is uniquely different so we would need to do an analysis before any price could be quoted. I can say that we are cheaper than attorneys or para-legals (definitely not knocking either) and in-house or full/part time staff. The best results are achieved when working with in-house folks in collaboration with our services.

Provide:
Removal of illegal copyrighted media: specifically direct or indirect hosting of
unauthorized copyrighted videos, pictures, archives, dvd rips, scene rips, site rips and cover art collateral by means of electronic and paper infringement notices. The search for, harvesting and removal of illegal media by means of search engines, torrent trackers, image hosts, blogs, tube sites, forum threads, unauthorized free sites, message groups, unauthorized paysites, pirate forums, serp removals and/or any other means of making copyrighted media available at cost or no cost without the express written permission of the studio. The preparation of reports, issuance of Dmca 512(h) subpoenas, statements, notices, email communications and other documents required to take down or remove access to illegal media not under immediate control or direction of the studio. Work with law enforcement, as needed, for repeat infringement and gross negligence. Maintenance of server accounts, records, databases, credentials, reporting architecture related to the studio on Removeyourcontent's network.

[RycEric]

On another note, it is not uncommon for us to send notices on close to 50K infringing links in less than 12 hours.

[Slutboat]

Wow...Manwin jumping into an anti-piracy discussion... wow

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by RycEric

Damian,

We are providing a service. We are not a revenue stream such as the advertising networks mentioned above. The person cutting my hair does not give me an ROI. I can cut it myself or have somebody else do it for me, however, I choose to leave in the hands of someone who will save me time and has been doing it as a profession.

Oh my bad. I thought that if you stopped people pirating my client's content, that people would then pay for it.

I naively thought that was the whole point of content removal services! Thanks for the clarification.

[wizzart]

Did I was born in USA I will make for living just suing other websites owners for copyright issues

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by RycEric

On another note, it is not uncommon for us to send notices on close to 50K infringing links in less than 12 hours.

Impressive.

Most impressive...

[Slutboat]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

Oh my bad. I thought that if you stopped people pirating my client's content, that people would then pay for it.

I naively thought that was the whole point of content removal services! Thanks for the clarification.

Dude he just owned you here - and thats the best you got?

[Kiwigirl]

I've seen a few come and go. Most are not willing to pay the $ to have their content protected and unfortunately there is no company out there that can guarantee 100% content protection.
It is unfortunate but true ..... just as starvation in the world will never end, wars will always be fought and home burglaries will always take place when people want something that they can not afford themselves, there is no stopping thieves from taking your content.

[gideongallery]

[QUOTE=Slutboat;17570905]You guys think that because there are still Limewire and Torrents available that the war against piracy in mainstream has been futile? Wake the fuck up - back when Napster came out NO ONE BOUGHT MUSIC and the recording industry was in total ruin.
[QUOTE]


you do realize that itunes didn't exist at the time, you need to buy the record and then rip it to mp3 when napster was around

napster forced the record companies to sell songs individually


as for piracy decreasing the music industry own studies say it increasing

according to their numbers
http://www.ifpi.org/content/section_...s/dmr2009.html
"95% of all music downloads are unauthorized" in 2009
of course the problem with those numbers is fair use authorized is defined as "unauthorized" in that study and that the point.