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Old 10-18-2010, 10:23 PM   #1
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the Home Owners Association has cut my internet off, wtf can I use?

So the landlord of the house I am renting is behind on and/or not paying the HOA fees, which has caused them to disconnect my Brighthouse cable internet connection with no warning and nothing but a small door hanger slip explaining what has happened.

My Dish Network satellite TV is still functioning so I take it they cant fuck with that.. I looked up the plans and pricing for satellite internet and let's just say its very far out if the realm of possibilities for a webmaster or any average active internet user in 2010 due to monthly data usage limits (17gb down 5gb up?!).

I'm not sure if the HOA only has the ability to disconnect Brighthouse connections or if it applies to all cable/phone/dsl connections. I'm thinking about tryng to run a fiber optic connection but I have no idea if they can fuck with that too..

Does anyone have any knowledge on what I can do? Know any companies or type of internet service that could get around this bullshit? If I have to move because of something as stupid as this I'm going to slay the entire fucking Board of Directors.
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Pay the HOA fess yourself, deduct from rent amount.
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what about a verizon laptop card for the time being?

Never dealt with a HOA so not sure what to tell you on that one, but that's pretty fucked up.
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what right do they have to fuck with your brighthouse connection? that belongs to brighthouse, not the HOA
are you paying brighthouse yourself directly? (if not then forget what i said above)
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Hell, late last week my HOA took my fucking tree without either requesting to do so, or giving notice. I ended up calling them and calmly explaining that the gentlemen in my front yard would be shot if they were not claimed.

They left one support staff for the tree in the ground, and a huge hole. They said they'd have the tree handled on Friday, but now, they're tellin me it may be next week.

Today I turned it into a pirate flag. Tomorrow, I'm going to put duct tape over the hole and change the pirate flag to a 'TREE OUT OF ORDER' sign.

I wish I had some 'police line' tape. I'd love to draw the outline of the tree and 'mark off' the front yard.

They really should not be able to impact your services for a lack of HOA being paid.. and depending on what/how it was signed - there is an amazing amount they can get away with.
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Send them a bill daily for lost wages till they reconnect you
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I wish I had some 'police line' tape. I'd love to draw the outline of the tree and 'mark off' the front yard.
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I was thinking more like this.
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I was thinking more like this.
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It sucks that the HOA can fuck with you like that but they can.

Three years ago we moved into a new house. As our one year lease was about to renew we found out that the last payment the landlord had made was the month before we had moved in. They also were not paying condo association fees and our water almost got shut off until I paid up for them.

What sucked is that everything was supposed to be included in our rent ... and our monthly rent was more than the mortgage and the condo fees combined so they had no reason not to pay their bills. The mortgage also included the taxes. If they weren't greedy they could have made a $150 monthly profit (we never needed any repairs or such ... we're low maintenance tenants) and kept their house as an investment property.

Losers. I feel for you man.
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Do you pay the cable company for your internet or is it included in your rent? It seems to me that the HOA doesn't own the cable or that service so they don't have the right to shut it off. If the HOA has a deal with the cable company than it could be a different situation.

Either way it is not your fault. You paid the rent, you can't control what the landlord does. I would contact whoever is responsible (the landlord or HOA) and tell them how much you lose each day that the internet access isn't on. Tell them you will bill them daily then take them to small claims court to collect if needed.

Of course if you agreed to all of this when you signed the lease there isn't much you can do.

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those rules suck.
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This scares me a bit. I think - eventually - we'll all be buying rifles and moving to North Dakota. And I'm fucking Canadian.
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This scares me a bit. I think - eventually - we'll all be buying rifles and moving to North Dakota. And I'm fucking Canadian.
That would explain why you picked North Dakota.
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Worse priving than satellite internet
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So the landlord of the house I am renting is behind on and/or not paying the HOA fees, which has caused them to disconnect my Brighthouse cable internet connection with no warning and nothing but a small door hanger slip explaining what has happened.

My Dish Network satellite TV is still functioning so I take it they cant fuck with that.. I looked up the plans and pricing for satellite internet and let's just say its very far out if the realm of possibilities for a webmaster or any average active internet user in 2010 due to monthly data usage limits (17gb down 5gb up?!).

I'm not sure if the HOA only has the ability to disconnect Brighthouse connections or if it applies to all cable/phone/dsl connections. I'm thinking about tryng to run a fiber optic connection but I have no idea if they can fuck with that too..

Does anyone have any knowledge on what I can do? Know any companies or type of internet service that could get around this bullshit? If I have to move because of something as stupid as this I'm going to slay the entire fucking Board of Directors.
Simple maybe you a wok-fi and leach wi-fi from your neighbors.
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This scares me a bit. I think - eventually - we'll all be buying rifles and moving to North Dakota. And I'm fucking Canadian.
Is there really that much difference between N Dakota and Canada?
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Not sure WTF priving means, but VZ Wireless is the correct solution.
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i will never live in a place like that

where some asshat pinko commie can make rules about my home...screw that
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If the cable is included in the hoa fees then they can shut it off. I would worry more if your landlord is current on his mortgage.
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Sprint 4G wireless does the job if you can get one of those.

My phone operates as a 4g wifi spot and it really is suitable for business usage.
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You get that because you are FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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The Internet connection would be the last thing i'd worry about. If he's not paying his HOA dues then you might want to check if he paid his property taxes or if the home is in foreclosure. You might be paying rent to someone that does not even own the home anymore.
We had one unit the bank took it and he was still collecting money from the tenants.the scumbag
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Hell, late last week my HOA took my fucking tree without either requesting to do so, or giving notice. I ended up calling them and calmly explaining that the gentlemen in my front yard would be shot if they were not claimed.

They left one support staff for the tree in the ground, and a huge hole. They said they'd have the tree handled on Friday, but now, they're tellin me it may be next week.

Today I turned it into a pirate flag. Tomorrow, I'm going to put duct tape over the hole and change the pirate flag to a 'TREE OUT OF ORDER' sign.

I wish I had some 'police line' tape. I'd love to draw the outline of the tree and 'mark off' the front yard.

They really should not be able to impact your services for a lack of HOA being paid.. and depending on what/how it was signed - there is an amazing amount they can get away with.
please god do the police line idea
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use whatever connection you used to post this thread.
that one seems to be working.
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The Internet connection would be the last thing i'd worry about. If he's not paying the HOA dues, you might want to check if the property taxes have been paid or if the home is in foreclosure. You possibly could be paying rent to someone that does not even own the home anymore.
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Not sure WTF priving means, but VZ Wireless is the correct solution.
Verizon wirless for PC $50 a month( if you have phone service ) 5 GB monthly cap. $51.20 per GB overage.

Hughesnet $50 a month 250 MB daily cap( 7.5 GB per month ) no cap from 2 AM - 7 AM EST. No charge for overage sppedis throttled

Wildblue $55 a month 7500 MB monthly download cap, 2300 MB upload cap. No charge for overage speed is throttled


Verizon is better than either of those?
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The Internet connection would be the last thing i'd worry about. If he's not paying the HOA dues, you might want to check if the property taxes have been paid or if the home is in foreclosure. You possibly could be paying rent to someone that does not even own the home anymore.
Was gonna post this but you beat me too it. This is happening a lot every were!
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I've ordered the tape. Couldn't find any available locally - only 'CAUTION'.

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LOL im sorry, im laughing pretty hard right now.
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What makes it most difficult is that these fucks won't even help figure out what I can get away with hooking up, they just blame their actions on doing what the Board of Directors tells them to and claim there's nothing they can do.

I guess I'm just going to have to make an account with another internet company and see if they can intercept that too. I know they can't cut off satellite service but there are no decent satellite plans that exist as far as I can see. The latency and caps on satellite usage are far too unrealistic.

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use whatever connection you used to post this thread.
that one seems to be working.
Can't work from my iPhone lol.

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i tried to move into an area that had a hoa and i was denied because of my age and that was self employed...glad i didnt get into that mess
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What makes it most difficult is that these fucks won't even help figure out what I can get away with hooking up, they just blame their actions on doing what the Board of Directors tells them to and claim there's nothing they can do.

I guess I'm just going to have to make an account with another internet company and see if they can intercept that too. I know they can't cut off satellite service but there are no decent satellite plans that exist as far as I can see. The latency and caps on satellite usage are far too unrealistic.


Can't work from my iPhone lol.
I didn't catch where you specified whether you have to pay the bill to your cable company or not. If you are paying it then this is likely illegal as hell. Possibly illegal enough to where you could collect damages. If they are paying it then I'm unsure. A landlord can't shut off utilities or services over non-payment in most areas. I'm not sure about a HOA.

Who actually shut it off - the cable company or a representative of the HOA?

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Its not even some small condo.
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I didn't catch where you specified whether you have to pay the bill to your cable company or not. If you are paying it then this is likely illegal as hell. Possibly illegal enough to where you could collect damages. If they are paying it then I'm unsure. A landlord can't shut off utilities or services over non-payment in most areas. I'm not sure about a HOA.

Who actually shut it off - the cable company or a representative of the HOA?
Cable and internet are provided to the entire community and is paid for individually by each homes HOA fees. I don't know what companies the HOA has deals setup with but I am not using what they provide, this is my own personal account I setup and pay for directly. I'm not sure if it is legal or not but Brighthouse let them cut my shit off so I'm guessing this is just another routine disconnect for them, as they also have little door hangers ready to use with Brighthouses name on them explaining the disconnect. Which makes me think maybe this is only a problem with using Brighthouse. But I really have no fucking clue.

I'm looking at either just trying another company, maybe some fiber optic internet, and see if the HOA can intercept that too, or going with Clearwires 4g wireless service
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My Dish Network satellite TV is still functioning so I take it they cant fuck with that.. I looked up the plans and pricing for satellite internet and let's just say its very far out if the realm of possibilities for a webmaster or any average active internet user in 2010 due to monthly data usage limits (17gb down 5gb up?!).
For the love of god man, don't go with satellite internet. The only reason I am on it is because I am in the deadzone, and the only other option is dialup. I'd jump to a rocket stick or other option if I could.
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Old 10-19-2010, 02:29 PM   #44
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The Internet connection would be the last thing i'd worry about. If he's not paying the HOA dues, you might want to check if the property taxes have been paid or if the home is in foreclosure. You possibly could be paying rent to someone that does not even own the home anymore.
Cases such as this will only become more common.
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Old 10-19-2010, 02:34 PM   #46
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I'm not sure if it is legal or not but Brighthouse let them cut my shit off so I'm guessing this is just another routine disconnect for them, as they also have little door hangers ready to use with Brighthouses name on them explaining the disconnect. Which makes me think maybe this is only a problem with using Brighthouse. But I really have no fucking clue.
So you had your own account set up and were not using their service?

Call up Bright house and ask them. This does not sound legal to me if you are paying the bill yourself. No way. And you don't even owe it your landlord does.

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Old 10-19-2010, 02:35 PM   #47
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Old 10-19-2010, 02:44 PM   #48
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Cable and internet are provided to the entire community and is paid for individually by each homes HOA fees. I don't know what companies the HOA has deals setup with but I am not using what they provide, this is my own personal account I setup and pay for directly. I'm not sure if it is legal or not but Brighthouse let them cut my shit off so I'm guessing this is just another routine disconnect for them, as they also have little door hangers ready to use with Brighthouses name on them explaining the disconnect. Which makes me think maybe this is only a problem with using Brighthouse. But I really have no fucking clue.

I'm looking at either just trying another company, maybe some fiber optic internet, and see if the HOA can intercept that too, or going with Clearwires 4g wireless service

Go with clear. There are no cables just a wireless cable modem. So I don't think the HOA can intercept the signal without violating the law.
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