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Old 10-29-2007, 10:24 AM   #1
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Have stolen money from epassporte virtual card

I have found that with my account in epassporte it was executed unauthorized transaction on other account in epassporte, I have reported on this in support epssport and in owner account to whom was executed trasaction(substra7). I asked to return my stolen money,
owner substar7 he has answered:

"We have heard same stories like my money stolen etc.

We have your ip address when you ordered traffic." but I no services booked from me.
In epassporte support I have answered:
"Sorry but SUBSTAR7 says you sent him the money for adveritising and that he confirmed everything over the phone.
I am sorry but there is nothing I can do"
answer from epassporte NO
answer from SUBSTAR7 NO
But I repeat that that did not do this transaction

viruses do not exist on my computer , I all have checked.
how do I return their own money( 220$)
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Old 10-29-2007, 10:30 AM   #2
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ENGLISH, MOTHERFUCKER!!!

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Old 10-29-2007, 10:33 AM   #3
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Old 10-29-2007, 10:58 AM   #4
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Yep. If the money left your epass acc its permanently gone
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:00 AM   #5
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ENGLISH, MOTHERFUCKER!!!

DO YOU SPEAK IT???!!!
Give him a break, he obviously doesn't.
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:04 AM   #6
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:07 AM   #9
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wha?!?! I thought it was an automatic given.. to come to gfy and post drama right off the bat

damn.. I am soo behind the times
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:07 AM   #10
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Ask them where the traffic was sent that was bought and you should be able to track down who used your epass acct. Also, if you have not already, change your password.
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sorry to hear that. goodluck though. better if next time you don't leave any $ in your epass acct..
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:20 AM   #13
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I do not speak english, stolen money from epassporte from me, have paid services from my account,
to cranki :
I from Russia, go to our webmaster forums and write on russia language, we shall laugh together
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:22 AM   #14
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you should get with Visa directly and report what's going on. That may help.
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:34 AM   #15
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you should get with Visa directly and report what's going on. That may help.
I spoke of this Michael from epassporte he has answered:
"I am sorry but the money can not be returned.
You will have to solve it directly with SUBSTAR7"

SUBSTAR7 speaks that I fucking cheater
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:43 AM   #16
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I spoke of this Michael from epassporte he has answered:
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You will have to solve it directly with SUBSTAR7"

SUBSTAR7 speaks that I fucking cheater
Which is why you need to talk to Visa instead of epass or substar
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:54 AM   #17
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I am sorry for your loss, but how many posts do you have to read before you understand that your money is NOT safe there? There are people here that have been taken for 1'000s so be thankful you only lost $250.

yes, I agree with you
but why will not do system of protection : access on IP or keys of the access
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:59 AM   #18
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why cry about others protections when there is only one best solution: strong at least 10 chars password! if you have password "mummy" or "password", no protection can solve your fault ;) forget about 250, change passwords where its needed and lets go back to work!
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:14 PM   #19
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:25 PM   #20
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:25 PM   #21
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Try to explain it all again so it is clearly understood
Someone used their virtual visa number to send substar7 money for traffic.
She did not order such traffic.
Epass says take it up with substar7
substar7 says fuck you, you bought traffic, your a russian cheater.

Obviously someone got into her account and bought some traffic and had it sent somewhere, or substar7 is in on a hacking scam and using his own merchant account to cash out stolen epassporte funds.

Also substar7 told epassporte they spoke about everything on the phone to finalize the deal. Strikes me as odd for that step, seems suspicious to me. Curious how many other odd deals ended up at substar7's account. Then again there is the full possibility that substar7 did talk to someone and did send the traffic somewhere and the poster did also get ripped off.

Marsh I would ask substar7 for two things.
1. Where did they send the traffic?
2. What phone number do they have for the buyer?

Lastly, fuck people ease off the broken English. Hell I really respect a lot of people here who post here often and English is their 2nd, 3rd, or 4th language. Hell I only know some broken Spanish and a tiny bit of Duetch.
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:27 PM   #22
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why cry about others protections when there is only one best solution: strong at least 10 chars password! if you have password "mummy" or "password", no protection can solve your fault ;) forget about 250, change passwords where its needed and lets go back to work!
I have a password 12 symbol at present, before theft , there was password which send me epass 7 or 8 symbol
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i'm pretty sure substar7 also speaks russian

http://www.crutop.nu/Vbulletin/showthread.php?t=74912

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I have a password 12 symbol at present, before theft , there was password which send me epass 7 or 8 symbol
so somebody hacked your email and used your password for enter, so there is no problem with epassporte. there is no other way than access your email or your computer or, access epassporte database, to get your password. if will be database hacked, there will be robbed much bigger accounts than 250usd ones. so ... i think i told what i wanted to ;)
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i'm pretty sure substar7 also speaks russian
This my topik on crutop, substar does not speak in russian, otherwise problems was solved
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This my topik on crutop, substar does not speak in russian, otherwise problems was solved
sorry i dont speak russian. I Was just trying to help . i will rememeber not to help in the future
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so somebody hacked your email and used your password for enter, so there is no problem with epassporte. there is no other way than access your email or your computer or, access epassporte database, to get your password. if will be database hacked, there will be robbed much bigger accounts than 250usd ones. so ... i think i told what i wanted to ;)
Argh....

I think she was saying that epass gave her a 7-8 letter one, she changed it to a much longer one. Also that she has checked her PC for issues.

Again the damn issue is that your only epass security is a password. They could easily and cheeply make it more secure but they choose not to. How much was stolen is not relevant, for some 250 can be a months income. Also do you see anyone saying it was an epassporte database hack?

The issue is that it happens way to fucking often to too damn many people. Some that I know personally and use passwords like h*69%#7Z and crap like that, plus they never duplicate passwords anywhere.

Can people just not come to grips that epassporte has super lax security, does not take it even with a grain of salt, and that any money you have in there is fair game to be gone at any moment. It has as much security as leaving your bankroll sitting on your dashboard of your locked car.
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sorry i dont speak russian. I Was just trying to help . i will rememeber not to help in the future
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Smokey I do not think she is trying to sound rude or unthankful. It just is the language barrier.
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lol nice said ;) you mean solved in real life?

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Also do you see anyone saying it was an epassporte database hack?

The issue is that it happens way to fucking often to too damn many people. Some that I know personally and use passwords like h*69&#37;#7Z and crap like that, plus they never duplicate passwords anywhere.
...
hello man. you are right, nobody said about database hack, but it is imho the only way how to get account passwords from epass. i do not talk about scammers links from emails etc, but if that happens to many people it mean some other database was hacked. you know, last time people was talking about traffichangar database and it was boom ... but i reported last half year four other holes, much dangerous than this one. hackers are everywhere and the only way is to have unique password everywhere where is security needed and never ever write the pass anywhere. as far i know there is only one https bruteforce in public and epass is blocking account after three unsuccesfull tries if i am right, so its safe enough if your passwords are secure ;)
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but why will not do system of protection : access on IP or keys of the access
actually, epassporte can restrict logging in by IP
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I doubt they'd use something like that. I've only seen that in use once before and that was on a laptop for an employee who works for Northrop Grumman.
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PayPal has it for $5. Shouldn't be too hard to do it.
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PayPal has it for $5. Shouldn't be too hard to do it.
They need something... even sitekeys would be a viable solution. As for their nocustomer service, unexplained account balance fluctuations and horrendous account funding loading times... they are doomed given their current path.
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Are you the new DEA? Bumping useless threads now?
I don't know how useful the bump was but one this is for sure, either teencat drank a lot less back then or his engrish has really deteriorated over the past few years
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