Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 17613767)

I was a TD man years ago, now mostly Royal, and my wife still has a TD/Can Trust account. Part of the issue is we are in the middle of nowhere now (New Liskeard) and the bank don't know me or any of these companies.

I had about 2-3 bounce back during the webmaster checks fiasco so now there is a hold on all my (US) checks (unless I drive 3 hrs each way to Sudbury to cash them.)

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17614536)

Everyone bitching about checks, simple soultion then, don't use companies that only offer checks or wire transfers. Rip on checks all you want, if your "advanced" country doesn't want to bother with checks anymore then simply don't use companies that issue checks. For the rest of us who live in N. America (with an exception to those of you who live out in middle of no where Canada) checks work great, fast and don't cost anything.

I'm glad the US still uses checks, if not I would have had to use a company like epass and likely could have losts tons of money. It's not my fault that in some other countries the banks want to charge you for checks. Absolutely nothing wrong with checks at all, its a safe way to transfer money, a lot safer than using a 3rd party company like epass or paxum. Just because YOUR country/bank doesn't like checks, doesn't mean there is anything wrong with checks and we should stop using them, its your problem not ours. Checks are great. Why don't you people quit with the "dinosaurs" shit just because your "advanced" society doesn't believe in checks. I guess cash is for dinosaurs too??

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17614536)

I guess cash is for dinosaurs too??

Originally Posted by OneWhoKnows (Post 17614917)

Like Nicky said. It's because they are foreign/in a foreign currency. However, even if some sponsor would be willing to send the check in EUR this wouldn't change a thing, as it's still foreign. It would only be free if it's from a bank in my country and in EUR - but guess what, we don't even have similar checks to those in the US anymore.

Oh, and btw - to that guy (can't remember who posted that stupid bullshit) who said webmasters living in a "first world country" only use e-wallets for tax evasion... Well, if more sponsors would be as cool as Payserve and offer free SEPA transfers (wires), I'd be glad to use 'em :thumbsup

PS: If you have no clue what SEPA is and are too dumb to check Wikipedia yourself:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Euro_Payments_Area

So for those who think checks are cool as fuck, please tell me why we should use them if we have wires that are completely free (yeah, that's $0 no matter how large the transfer is) within the EUR zone? Oh and, btw - wires don't bounce :D

Originally Posted by OneWhoKnows (Post 17614917)

Like Nicky said. It's because they are foreign/in a foreign currency. However, even if some sponsor would be willing to send the check in EUR this wouldn't change a thing, as it's still foreign. It would only be free if it's from a bank in my country and in EUR - but guess what, we don't even have similar checks to those in the US anymore.

Oh, and btw - to that guy (can't remember who posted that stupid bullshit) who said webmasters living in a "first world country" only use e-wallets for tax evasion... Well, if more sponsors would be as cool as Payserve and offer free SEPA transfers (wires), I'd be glad to use 'em :thumbsup

PS: If you have no clue what SEPA is and are too dumb to check Wikipedia yourself:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Euro_Payments_Area

So for those who think checks are cool as fuck, please tell me why we should use them if we have wires that are completely free (yeah, that's $0 no matter how large the transfer is) within the EUR zone? Oh and, btw - wires don't bounce :D

Originally Posted by willwank (Post 17615113)

Wow, you actually touched on the truth. I am not kidding about this, many western countries have serious discussions right now about limiting the circulation of certain coins and bills. Why? Because cash is the main ingredient in (organized)crime. Not likely to happen anytime soon but it will happen for sure.

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17610800)

So in one version the designer took an internal memo of the companies they *want* to add and published it, and no one checked the designer's work before it went live??

In another version it was Paxum users using some add function to add companies to the list that was suppose to be meant only for program owners to add their companies' name to the list. Which none of this was verified and it just goes live??

wtf :warning:helpme:warning two very different stories.

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17614574)

Funny, if anyone is getting paid around here to post, it's not the people asking questions, its the people and fake / new nicks blindly blowing the company, thats for sure. I don't see any new nicks bashing them, just real people with real concerns.

Originally Posted by NanoBot (Post 17615119)

Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 17613697)

I'm in Canada and it's 10-15 business days (3-4 weeks usually).

It's because the rest of the world has moved on to REAL banking set ups, checks are dinosaurs.

In fact, starting now, I'm going to ask a $20 fee on out of country checks. My business, my traffic, and my hassles.

Originally Posted by OneWhoKnows (Post 17615276)

No, but around $30 wire fee most affiliate programs charge plus around 20 EUR bank fees to receive an international wire still don't make wires my preferred payout method :321GFY

Originally Posted by NanoBot (Post 17615331)

Originally Posted by OneWhoKnows (Post 17615345)

You do realize that I posted that myself, right? Ok, so how many non-EU programs would be willing to get EU bank account to be able to send those out for free to their EU affiliates? If you find any, let me know!

Originally Posted by NanoBot (Post 17615389)

Originally Posted by willwank (Post 17615400)

but, but, but your bro Will76 says not to be so demanding :helpme

Originally Posted by gecko (Post 17611909)

keysersoze! if they can only convince him ;)

Originally Posted by NanoBot (Post 17615436)

Originally Posted by fris (Post 17613885)

that sucks that you have to wait, i have zero wait, i use TD Canadatrust

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 17615199)

I'm definitely not using Paxum.

Originally Posted by facialfreak (Post 17615573)

I am with Canada Trust from way back in late 80s - before TD even joined them, and I still have a minimum 14 days hold on US cheques (since 9/11 - the bullshit blanket excuse so many companies used to tie up/earn interest on our money!!)

:Oh crap

Originally Posted by facialfreak (Post 17615522)

NO!!!!

Michael Olsen is a stand up guy ....

He's been put through the wringer and hung to dry! :Oh crap

The LAST thing Michael needs, is to have his name associated with this three ring circus.

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 17615199)

I'm definitely not using Paxum.

Originally Posted by facialfreak (Post 17615522)

NO!!!!

Michael Olsen is a stand up guy ....

He's been put through the wringer and hung to dry! :Oh crap

The LAST thing Michael needs, is to have his name associated with this three ring circus.

Originally Posted by facialfreak (Post 17615573)

I am with Canada Trust from way back in late 80s - before TD even joined them, and I still have a minimum 14 days hold on US cheques (since 9/11 - the bullshit blanket excuse so many companies used to tie up/earn interest on our money!!)

:Oh crap

Originally Posted by facialfreak (Post 17615573)

I am with Canada Trust from way back in late 80s - before TD even joined them, and I still have a minimum 14 days hold on US cheques (since 9/11 - the bullshit blanket excuse so many companies used to tie up/earn interest on our money!!)

:Oh crap

Originally Posted by OneWhoKnows (Post 17614917)

Like Nicky said. It's because they are foreign/in a foreign currency. However, even if some sponsor would be willing to send the check in EUR this wouldn't change a thing, as it's still foreign. It would only be free if it's from a bank in my country and in EUR - but guess what, we don't even have similar checks to those in the US anymore.

Oh, and btw - to that guy (can't remember who posted that stupid bullshit) who said webmasters living in a "first world country" only use e-wallets for tax evasion... Well, if more sponsors would be as cool as Payserve and offer free SEPA transfers (wires), I'd be glad to use 'em :thumbsup

PS: If you have no clue what SEPA is and are too dumb to check Wikipedia yourself:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Euro_Payments_Area

So for those who think checks are cool as fuck, please tell me why we should use them if we have wires that are completely free (yeah, that's $0 no matter how large the transfer is) within the EUR zone? Oh and, btw - wires don't bounce :D

Originally Posted by RogerV (Post 17616507)

I wonder if PR will add Paxum if they end up being the new standard

Originally Posted by Cheap (Post 17615094)

Great positoon! All your posts harm the couse to many internatoinal webmasters. Wanna check? Get your check and fuckuot! I dont understand what do you want? Get out with your checks at all. We all want new sistem with the same resources like epass had and I will find it. As I understant you dont want any new sistem att all and you need your fucking checks. In this case why r u so annoying? I cant sind any positive thoghts in your brain. At this time all bags fixed and Paxum will be more cautious to adding info .
What do you want with you fucking negative?:321GFY

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17616801)

Since the people in these countries don't use checks, what do they use??? Credit cards and Cash? A LOT of B2B brick and mortar companies in the US use checks. Its very common when a vendor delivers product that the company write them a check opposed to having to deal with cash. None of these companies want to use credit cards as it is stupid to make a company you deliver merchandise/product to pay with a credit card and them have to pay transaction fees on thousands of dollars every week. Especially when the check is easy to obtain at delivery and doesn't cost a penny to deposit.

How is this done in the rest of the world that doesn't use checks? I'm not talking about online, but all offline businesses.



Tell us what you think, so we know the opposite will happen.



sorry I don't understand your engrish, but I am guessing here since you don't speak good enrrish you probably don;t like checks and didn't like my post.

Originally Posted by RogerV (Post 17616507)

I wonder if PR will add Paxum if they end up being the new standard

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17616801)

Since the people in these countries don't use checks, what do they use??? Credit cards and Cash? A LOT of B2B brick and mortar companies in the US use checks. Its very common when a vendor delivers product that the company write them a check opposed to having to deal with cash.

How is this done in the rest of the world that doesn't use checks? I'm not talking about online, but all offline businesses.

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17610844)

you people are full of so much bullshit. Ruth you blamed it on Paxum users saying that they used a form that should have been used by Program owners. You blame the Paxum users for using a form that was for Program Owners.



Octav says it was companies submitted from users that they should add. Octav blames the designer for publishing a list of companies they *want* to add.



Makes no fucking sense. If the "submit form" was for program owners then it wouldn't be a list of people you want to add, they would already be added.

Octav is saying he knew it was from webmasters, you are saying "opps" that was suppose to be from program owners, we *just* finding out about it now.

So either you guys knew the programs being submitted on that page from webmasters and not owners and you did nothing about it, or you guys are just plain stupid and have no idea what you are doing.

christ, 1+1 = 36 around here.

Originally Posted by PR_Dave (Post 17616824)

They are off to terrible start trying to earn our biz.