Nahh, he's not saying that.

To me it sounded as though he was saying that after your system was hacked
that he temporarily lost his mind and went back into his hippie mode and incorrectly
thought his sales were down every time a CCbill site switched to NATS.

I mean, how could he know sales were down when there were no sales coming
in to count? It could have been a database update issue or something.
Maybe a "post back" thingy that went haywire.

I think this thread probably played tricks on his mind :

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=7942...ht=NATS+hacked


Anyway, CHEERS Bro!! :)
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There is a major difference between "cookie life, how type-ins are handled, and etc." and "'backend features' in NATS that they don't want affiliates to know about. I call it 'The Gillette Protocol'". Comparing the two isn't even close to a reasonable argument.

Are you agreeing with his statement that there is some hidden shaving feature in NATS?

You can easily check cookie life, how type-ins are handled, etc. These are extremely transparent things. A shave feature is something intended to secretly remove sales and not credit them to affiliates. That is quite a bold accusation to make.

PIBcash had nothing to do with NATS. I'd get into the story behind PIBcash, but a certain individual who already tried to hijack this thread with his offering would go into a fit.

I know you're on the "CCBill is our savior" bandwagon, but it's an extremely short sighted way to run a business. Even my buddy up there with his full page ad can see that. Nothing is forever, companies go out of business. Losing a bit of your income here & there when someone goes out of business is inevitable if you want to be in business for yourself. Making your entire business dependent upon one company because you mistakenly believe they're bullet-proof is utterly foolish. If you need an example of where that mentality leads read up on iBill. I have no reason to doubt CCBill is a well run stable company. However, that is no reason to make your entire livelihood dependent upon them. You should not solely rely on CCBill, NATS, a particular sponsor program, etc. You need to spread your risk around.

That said the CCBill paid option in NATS severely limits functionality within NATS. It's an option that is there, but not the best way to go. If you want to run a CCBill program also you're best off running a CCBill based program next to your NATS program.

Thank you for the anonymous, sarcastic, rambling reply.

http://watchurmouth.files.wordpress....antoineoz8.png

I've always preferred NATS based programs and always will.

I'm not anonymous. Don't get personal with me about your personal fuck ups.

:1orglaugh

So I was right on the sarcastic and rambling part. 2/3 isn't bad!

Hey, you are always right; just ask yourself.


:winkwink:

as an affiliate i prefer using CCBILL and having everything in one place, then i have less checks to keep track of in the mail, and i just hate NATS

Damn.... my reply was actually intended to be a lot more positive than you appeared to take it. I was in no way implying that you purposely have a shave feature built in. Merely that it is possible that certain settings might make a difference in determining how an affiliate gets credit. Such as cookie settings, how cookies are applied to type-ins, and that sort of thing.

I know PIBcash wasn't your software. I was only letting you know why affiliates might be paranoid about such things in general. It's a valid concern. That's completely different than you being guilty of such a thing but it only makes sense for affiliates to not be naive as to the the possibility. We'd be fools not to be.

Out of curiosity how does the CCBILL Paid function limit things? I've only recently became familiar with it but I thought you could run a regular NATS program (paid by sponsor) as well as a CCBill paid program all in one. It seemed to allow the options for different link codes so someone could use both at the same time if they wanted. Or am I mistaken?

or maybe it's just the shrooooms ... far out ...

50......... :)

no matter who you ask, one or the other will always suck, or both.

40 days
 

Yep and I've just came from bank where I gave 2 of my checks coming from sponsors using NATS. (it is not important is it NATS or anything else, for me it is important to be easily paid and to avoid having any sales limits for payout) And guess what, I need to wait 40 days to get that cash. This can only result in one thing and that is : dropping those sponsors.