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Epassporte lawsuit, we must act quickly for our Ewallets

10-14-2010, 06:19 AM

I kindly ask your attention regarding our frozen Ewallets. We need to think realistically.

As most of people know, Epassporte has discontinued business from october 7th.
On november 7th, Chris Mallick and his associates will be able to recover funds who will not be claimed, and this legally.
Chris Mallick has no reason to pay people faster.
There is a massive demand from hundreds of people. Who can really believe that a small staff can send every wires before or on october 18th ? It's a classic step to slow up the payments until the legal deadline. So our chances to get back our money in time are really small.

Our best chance to be defended is to open a lawsuit in Curaçao where Epassporte wallet's funds are supposed to be. I'm in touch with a lawyer from ZL attorneys in Curaçao and we try to bring people together regarding Ewallet funds.

Here are the terms required by ZL attorneys to instigating legal proceedings :

1. Full name and address for each account holder that is registered with Epassporte.

2. Screen shots or printout of the funds stuck for each account holder in Ewallet.

We are able to take on clients for 15% of the funds recovered, plus we need to pay for expenses (placing liens, Court fees, Bailiff fees), we can do this for 5% of the funds that each account holder has stuck. This has to be paid upfront.

Contact [email protected] for futher informations, fast answer.

I think we must consider this option, that could be our last chance to get back our funds.

Thank you for your attention.
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10-14-2010, 06:24 AM

So 20% for each of us? What if the funds are simply gone?

Regarding the November 7th deadline where Mallick would receive all the money, I'm not a lawyer and not even that smart of a person, but it seems very odd someone could LEGALLY get it all considering there are hundreds of pending requests.

So I could dissolve a company that's holding others' assets, simply ignore them when they want their assets, and then it's mine after 30 days? Seems weird to me...
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10-14-2010, 06:28 AM

Originally posted by nt99

Seems weird to me...

because it's bullshit.

however i agree with everything else.
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10-14-2010, 06:37 AM

It is not bullshit, it is fact.

When companies are dissolved, legally the onus is on the people who are owed money to register and prove the amount owing to them not the company to state who they owe money to.

I did post a link detailing the Netherlands Antilles dissolution process a few days ago.

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10-14-2010, 06:49 AM

Originally posted by nt99

So I could dissolve a company that's holding others' assets, simply ignore them when they want their assets, and then it's mine after 30 days? Seems weird to me...

Yes it's the law out there, and Mallick has always known.

When you feel your company is going to fall down due partially to the Visa case, it's more cost effective for you to dissolve it to recover money who will not be claimed, rather than let your customers go one after one with their funds.

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10-14-2010, 06:58 AM

i'm going to find out if it's really true. however it doesn't make any sense. it's a hole in law.

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10-14-2010, 07:06 AM

Is there a minimun amount?

I have 40$ in wallet (i'm lucky, everything else is in VV) and don't want them to end in Malick's hands
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10-15-2010, 12:35 PM

20%, nice, you're a tool.
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10-15-2010, 01:36 PM

Originally posted by Steiger

i'm going to find out if it's really true. however it doesn't make any sense. it's a hole in law.

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10-15-2010, 01:45 PM

I haev 50k in there and still waiting and worried aboiut loosing my money.
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10-15-2010, 02:06 PM

I received an email today from Epassporte with terms to recover my funds. I filled up the form and my funds are going to be released. This is a result of the arrangements that ZL attorneys made with Epassporte.

I will keep you updated about the progress.
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10-15-2010, 04:42 PM

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10-17-2010, 09:59 AM

So what about to post somewhere this form?!?!
Let's other people can see what about it is?

Originally posted by tonyfgsoprano

I received an email today from Epassporte with terms to recover my funds. I filled up the form and my funds are going to be released. This is a result of the arrangements that ZL attorneys made with Epassporte.

I will keep you updated about the progress.

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10-17-2010, 10:12 AM

Originally posted by tonyfgsoprano

I kindly ask your attention regarding our frozen Ewallets. We need to think realistically.

As most of people know, Epassporte has discontinued business from october 7th.
On november 7th, Chris Mallick and his associates will be able to recover funds who will not be claimed, and this legally.
Chris Mallick has no reason to pay people faster.
There is a massive demand from hundreds of people. Who can really believe that a small staff can send every wires before or on october 18th ? It's a classic step to slow up the payments until the legal deadline. So our chances to get back our money in time are really small.

Our best chance to be defended is to open a lawsuit in Curaçao where Epassporte wallet's funds are supposed to be. I'm in touch with a lawyer from ZL attorneys in Curaçao and we try to bring people together regarding Ewallet funds.

Here are the terms required by ZL attorneys to instigating legal proceedings :

1. Full name and address for each account holder that is registered with Epassporte.

2. Screen shots or printout of the funds stuck for each account holder in Ewallet.

We are able to take on clients for 15% of the funds recovered, plus we need to pay for expenses (placing liens, Court fees, Bailiff fees), we can do this for 5% of the funds that each account holder has stuck. This has to be paid upfront.

Contact [email protected] for futher informations, fast answer.

I think we must consider this option, that could be our last chance to get back our funds.

Thank you for your attention.

Bullshit. In the dissolution proceedings epassporte was supposed to list all creditors. If he didn't then his dissolution is fraudulent. That would be like filing for bankrucy in the US, not listing your creditors and thinking you got off scott free.

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10-17-2010, 11:31 AM

So you said you paid in advance (as ZL attorney required in their email answers)?
What was the procedure and did you participate only you or you was part of group (as chocker and others?)
Give us some more info please!

Originally posted by tonyfgsoprano

I received an email today from Epassporte with terms to recover my funds. I filled up the form and my funds are going to be released. This is a result of the arrangements that ZL attorneys made with Epassporte.

I will keep you updated about the progress.

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10-17-2010, 01:34 PM

Originally posted by Choker

Bullshit. In the dissolution proceedings epassporte was supposed to list all creditors. If he didn't then his dissolution is fraudulent.

Is anyone watching the local curacao newspapers for epass declarations?

Also, the email about 'closing our doors' could be taken as a legal notice.

I would also like to see this form that the attorney got from epass according to thread starter. If it is just a wire request form along with that same letter that others are getting via email, then he paid the attorney basically for nothing.
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10-17-2010, 01:51 PM

20% for sending epassporte letter with some lawyer-bullshit ? what a greedy bastards !
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10-18-2010, 08:18 AM

Bump for the updated progress and my kindly request about posting form...

Originally posted by tonyfgsoprano

I received an email today from Epassporte with terms to recover my funds. I filled up the form and my funds are going to be released. This is a result of the arrangements that ZL attorneys made with Epassporte.

I will keep you updated about the progress.

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10-18-2010, 08:39 AM

Originally posted by tonyfgsoprano

I received an email today from Epassporte with terms to recover my funds. I filled up the form and my funds are going to be released. This is a result of the arrangements that ZL attorneys made with Epassporte.

I will keep you updated about the progress.

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10-18-2010, 09:11 AM

Originally posted by tonyfgsoprano

... This has to be paid upfront...

Thanks, but no, thanks

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10-21-2010, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by tonyfgsoprano

I received an email today from Epassporte with terms to recover my funds. I filled up the form and my funds are going to be released. This is a result of the arrangements that ZL attorneys made with Epassporte.

I will keep you updated about the progress.

Did You pay ZL Attorney 20% of your wallet funds for the same two forms that epass is giving on their website now?
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10-21-2010, 06:29 PM

9 post wonder, why does anyone believe this.

just contact epassporte and get your funds wired to you as they've done for other people

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10-22-2010, 11:36 AM

The problem is noone has got his money from Epass...
Noone has got his money through this ZLAttorneys too...
Starter of topic is a shitty man - post and run...

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9 post wonder, why does anyone believe this.

just contact epassporte and get your funds wired to you as they've done for other people

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10-22-2010, 11:51 AM

AND....... they were going to sue the wrong people. SKNAB is not holding the wallet funds.
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10-29-2010, 02:29 AM

Originally posted by TidalWave

9 post wonder, why does anyone believe this.

just contact epassporte and get your funds wired to you as they've done for other people

Originally posted by butcherboy

The problem is noone has got his money from Epass...
Noone has got his money through this ZLAttorneys too...
Starter of topic is a shitty man - post and run...

Hum... I'm not coming here to convince you that i have the best solution or to advertise for a lawyer, but just to talk about other ways to get back our ewallet money and about my experience with this.

I can tell you that ZL has been successful in releasing the funds because i have my money in my bank today. They transfered it to me by their own account. You can check my sig to take a look at my bank statement.

I think it's not too bad for a shitty man

I have some additional info regarding ZL and Epass :

1. About ZL, the upfront can be lowered if there is a large group and depends also to your amount frozen. You have to negociate it with [email protected] He is a serious and qualified lawyer who did the job for me.
I know that much people tells that ZL is a scam but it's absolutely wrong, I checked by myself and everybody should do the same before tell bullshits.

2. About Epass, here the legal info from ZL :
Epassporte is a Curaçao company. The agreement with account holders is with Epassporte, therefore account holders have a claim on the Curaçao company. Furthermore the bank where the funds are (United International Bank N.V.) is also a Curaçao company and is located in Curaçao. If account holders want to freeze their assets, then the Curaçao Court has EXCLUSIVE jurisdiction to approve of this. No US Court can issue a freezing order against a bank that is located in Curaçao.

If you still believe in Epass promesses, keep going on your way and good luck, maybe you're right.

Personally i don't like to be considered as an idiot by sending my wire request almost everydays and get a permanent PENDING status.

Whatever you do, don't forget that on november 7th it will be too late to claim your funds.

Best luck to all.
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10-29-2010, 03:22 AM

Im not happy about the attorneys receiving my money and then giving it to me, if I see more people using this method though...
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10-29-2010, 03:30 AM

Originally posted by naz2k6

Im not happy about the attorneys receiving my money and then giving it to me, if I see more people using this method though...

That is so they can take their cut first. If you're thinking about using them I suggest you get going on it before epass is out of money.
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10-29-2010, 03:36 AM

ZL takes 20%. Robbery.
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10-29-2010, 03:50 AM

Originally posted by lucPL

ZL takes 20%. Robbery.

20% include upfront and fees but it's a standard rate, it's not necessarily what you pay. You should read the thread completely before posting negative comment.

Originally posted by tonyfgsoprano

1. About ZL, the upfront can be lowered if there is a large group and depends also to your amount frozen. You have to negociate it with [email protected]
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10-29-2010, 04:28 AM

How long did it take to receive your money?
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10-29-2010, 04:34 AM

Originally posted by naz2k6

How long did it take to receive your money?

7 days. The wire has been processed on october 20th and i received the funds on october 27th but it depend also on your bank.
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10-29-2010, 04:41 AM

I want to believe all of this but the only thing troubling me is the fact you are advertising it so well, if I were you i'd mention it but I wouldn't go on about it repeating the email address e.t.c. I would have given up and thought to myself "their loss" rather than trying to help people...
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10-29-2010, 04:49 AM

Originally posted by butcherboy

Starter of topic is a shitty man - post and run...

I love all the ESL on GFY lately due to the epassporte fiasco.
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10-29-2010, 05:18 AM

Originally posted by naz2k6

I want to believe all of this but the only thing troubling me is the fact you are advertising it so well, if I were you i'd mention it but I wouldn't go on about it repeating the email address e.t.c. I would have given up and thought to myself "their loss" rather than trying to help people...

I come back here because i promised on begining of the thread to keep people updated about my approach. Now i have news to tell, so that's what i do.

Don't be offended but now i feel that people needs a therapy against paranoia. Mallick has done much damage in people's heads.

I'm still open to answer to other questions if they don't come from angry people
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10-29-2010, 06:04 AM

Originally posted by tonyfgsoprano

I come back here because i promised on begining of the thread to keep people updated about my approach. Now i have news to tell, so that's what i do.

Don't be offended but now i feel that people needs a therapy against paranoia. Mallick has done much damage in people's heads.

I'm still open to answer to other questions if they don't come from angry people

Can you provide more proof?

Who else wants to go for this, I'm already in contact with the attorney. He seems legit so far, and what else have we got to loose? Do you really think epass will pay after all this time?

Except for the high fee, why shouldn't I go for this?
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10-29-2010, 06:21 AM

I too have been emailing, done some research, site has been online since 2004 or 2002, it hasnt just sprung up the past few months, the site is very convincing and he also offered to phone him... I am going to consider it over the weekend.
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10-29-2010, 06:27 AM

Originally posted by tonyfgsoprano

I come back here because i promised on begining of the thread to keep people updated about my approach. Now i have news to tell, so that's what i do.

Don't be offended but now i feel that people needs a therapy against paranoia. Mallick has done much damage in people's heads.

I'm still open to answer to other questions if they don't come from angry people
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10-29-2010, 06:36 AM

No one in their right mind will pay upfront. If you HAVE the money in hand offer to release it for a fee.

[We] are able to take on clients for 15% of the funds recovered, plus we need to pay for expenses (placing liens, Court fees, Bailiff fees), we can do this for 5% of the funds that each account holder has stuck. This has to be paid upfront.

Only a lawsuit filled on a contingency basis might be considered.

Only an idiot would pay 20% upfront ? court adjourned ...
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10-29-2010, 08:06 AM

Paying up front is the real problem. Also, the fee is % based, but it's the same work that they need to do to recover 100k and 1k, so the fees don't line up.

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10-29-2010, 08:39 AM

Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam

Only an idiot would pay 20% upfront ? court adjourned ...

Hum yeah ok but, nobody talked about 20% upfront... Take a breath and read carefully
Actually It's 5% and it can be lowered at 1% depending on case.

But with a class action i think it's possible to remove this fee. You just have to write to them and you'll see what they will answer to you. You can also call them.

Anyway there is not only ZL in Curaçao, you can also check another lawyer out there with maybe a best offer.
But only Curaçao lawyers can release our wallet funds, it's very important to keep this in mind.
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10-29-2010, 09:08 AM

Originally posted by in3sting

Can you provide more proof?

Who else wants to go for this, I'm already in contact with the attorney. He seems legit so far, and what else have we got to loose? Do you really think epass will pay after all this time?

Except for the high fee, why shouldn't I go for this?

I think Epass will pay to a few of his customers and it seems really complicated for them to pay everybody.
So you can wait for an hypothetic wire from them or try to put pressure with a lawyer, that can be more effective.
If you're afraid of upfront, you can also propose to ZL a class action with maybe some other GFY members in order to remove upfronts and maybe lowered their charges. Everything can be negotiable, you just have to try
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10-29-2010, 09:37 AM

Originally posted by naz2k6

I too have been emailing, done some research, site has been online since 2004 or 2002, it hasnt just sprung up the past few months, the site is very convincing and he also offered to phone him... I am going to consider it over the weekend.

Please contact me at TyGFY-at-ymail.com.

Want to discuss this with you.
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10-29-2010, 09:38 AM

Originally posted by in3sting

Can you provide more proof?

Who else wants to go for this, I'm already in contact with the attorney. He seems legit so far, and what else have we got to loose? Do you really think epass will pay after all this time?

Except for the high fee, why shouldn't I go for this?

Please contact me at TyGFY-at-ymail.com.

Want to discuss this with you.
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10-29-2010, 09:44 AM

Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam

No one in their right mind will pay upfront. If you HAVE the money in hand offer to release it for a fee.

[We] are able to take on clients for 15% of the funds recovered, plus we need to pay for expenses (placing liens, Court fees, Bailiff fees), we can do this for 5% of the funds that each account holder has stuck. This has to be paid upfront.

Only a lawsuit filled on a contingency basis might be considered.

Only an idiot would pay 20% upfront ? court adjourned ...

MCK, please send me the info of the attorney you discussed earlier. I cant find it on any of your posts.

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10-29-2010, 09:50 AM

I heard from few other people about this Daniel guy and epass. I don't know all details but people did get their money thru him.
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10-29-2010, 10:01 AM

It basically comes down to getting 80 - 85% of your money or risking it and facing 100% or worse case scenario 0%... I am going to think it over the weekend, if more people come forward and prove that it worked for them i will more than likely go for it too...
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10-29-2010, 10:17 AM

"We are able to take on clients for 15% of the funds recovered, plus we need to pay for expenses (placing liens, Court fees, Bailiff fees), we can do this for 5% of the funds that each account holder has stuck. This has to be paid upfront." you wrote.

If you meant only the actual costs write clearer~

At the end of a sentence is all inclusive

Apart from that, the fees you speak of are maybe under $1,000.00

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Tyler,

I did not post any attorney name as of yet. This needs to be authorized with our legal counsel in Curaçao where ePassporte NV was/is an incorporated LLC. First of all that he has no conflict in this and assesses a realistic possibility of collection/recovery upon successful adjudication (lawsuit/judgment).

I will email you now.
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10-29-2010, 10:43 AM

I don't want to convince us, just you post something and disappear...that's what I mean with shitty behavior. If you felt bad - apologize!

Originally posted by tonyfgsoprano

Hum... I'm not coming here to convince you that i have the best solution or to advertise for a lawyer, but just to talk about other ways to get back our ewallet money and about my experience with this.

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10-29-2010, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam

"We are able to take on clients for 15% of the funds recovered, plus we need to pay for expenses (placing liens, Court fees, Bailiff fees), we can do this for 5% of the funds that each account holder has stuck. This has to be paid upfront." you wrote.

If you meant only the actual costs write clearer~

At the end of a sentence is all inclusive

Apart from that, the fees you speak of are maybe under $1,000.00

I remind you that's a copy / paste from ZL attorneys, i don't work for this firm

I added these updates previously regarding upfronts :

Originally posted by tonyfgsoprano

Actually It's 5% and it can be lowered at 1% depending on case.

Originally posted by tonyfgsoprano

1. About ZL, the upfront can be lowered if there is a large group and depends also to your amount frozen. You have to negociate it with [email protected]

Originally posted by tonyfgsoprano

If you're afraid of upfront, you can also propose to ZL a class action with maybe some other GFY members in order to remove upfronts and maybe lowered their charges. Everything can be negotiable, you just have to try

Anyway you'll never pay 20% upfront nobody told you this, or maybe my crappy english doesn't help me

Originally posted by butcherboy

I don't want to convince us, just you post something and disappear...that's what I mean with shitty behavior. If you felt bad - apologize!

I disappeared with the promise to come back with fresh news
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10-29-2010, 12:09 PM

Well, I can't take you seriously. If you have money of your own at stake, I wish you well. Conversation closed ...
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