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Black All Through 10-14-2010 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 17604086)
sadly, police brutality is becoming the standard these days :(

Badly trained and not adequately financed small town police departments.
They should do like in Europe and have state police. This will give the opportunity to move the officers around, to let them operate in larger towns and learn how to handle situations like this.
The swat team in my town 3 years back shot each other in a sting by mistake, the same thing repeated it self last winter.

In cases like this the cop wont even get suspended, the court is in his town, the district attorney knows him, the judge knows him and the jury wont fuck with him. If the police department was a state department then he could be judged in a state court not in his town and actually be punished for what he did to that girl.

blackmonsters 10-14-2010 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by potter (Post 17605052)
...There, fixed it for you. What happened to HER from the choice SHE made.

Your logic is just so backwards. It's like you're saying if you decided to go running a red light, got struck by another vehicle, getting injured in the accident. Then coming here and asking for sympathy, and worse trying to blame THE OTHER DRIVER.

No... That's not how the world works. You own your own choices in life, and the consequences that come with them.

Translation : I'm a lazy out of shape bitch myself that can't catch a girl without a taser, yet I fantasize that I could be a good cop and therefore think it's OK for cops to be
out of shape to the point that they need a taser for teenage girls.

Fixed for you. Wimpy. :1orglaugh


http://kerryosborne.oracle-guy.com/f...9/05/wimpy.jpg

mchacal 10-14-2010 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by potter (Post 17605052)
...There, fixed it for you. What happened to HER from the choice SHE made.

Your logic is just so backwards. It's like you're saying if you decided to go running a red light, got struck by another vehicle, getting injured in the accident. Then coming here and asking for sympathy, and worse trying to blame THE OTHER DRIVER.

No... That's not how the world works. You own your own choices in life, and the consequences that come with them.

No bro your logic is all fucked up, if you see a baby playing with an electric plug would you say it was his choice? would you tase the shit out of him? or would you grab him and put him away?

A teenage girl is pretty much the same, you can't blame her for the little understanding that she has of life, a teenage girl doesn't know what it is to work for a living, doesn't know what it is take care of her loved ones, doesn't know anything about life and perhaps everyone makes mistakes even adults, that's not a reason to start shooting people.

That cop didn't have to use such a brutal method.

What is wrong with you? You have so much respect for fucking illiterate megalomaniac piece of shit pig who things "I'm mister big shot in my pretty uniform and I'm not gonna run after a teenage girl"

potter 10-14-2010 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 17605915)
Translation : I'm a lazy out of shape bitch myself that can't catch a girl without a taser, yet I fantasize that I could be a good cop and therefore think it's OK for cops to be
out of shape to the point that they need a taser for teenage girls.

Fixed for you. Wimpy. :1orglaugh

Dumbass. I'm very fit and healthy.

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Originally Posted by mchacal (Post 17605927)
No bro your logic is all fucked up, if you see a baby playing with an electric plug would you say it was his choice? would you tase the shit out of him? or would you grab him and put him away?

A teenage girl is pretty much the same, you can't blame her for the little understanding that she has of life, a teenage girl doesn't know what it is to work for a living, doesn't know what it is take care of her loved ones, doesn't know anything about life and perhaps everyone makes mistakes even adults, that's not a reason to start shooting people.

That cop didn't have to use such a brutal method.

What is wrong with you? You have so much respect for fucking illiterate megalomaniac piece of shit pig who things "I'm mister big shot in my pretty uniform and I'm not gonna run after a teenage girl"

:1orglaugh Comparing a 16 year old to an infant. Here is the problem with society, it's people like you who turn this country into a nanny state where no one is responsible for their own actions. Maybe you'll get lucky some day and slip on a wet spot in a store and you can sue them for millions.

EZRhino 10-14-2010 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 17605822)
'the girl running away' is no reason for the cop to use his taser. The taser is a deadly weapon and should only be used in selfdefense or in defense of others, not to torture people and force them to comply.

Its not a deadly weapon and its was invented to force people to comply without using deadly force.
I think she learned a valuable lesson.:thumbsup

justinsain 10-14-2010 07:48 AM

Here's how the cops use a taser in my neighborhood :winkwink:

http://www.wesh.com/video/25374769/detail.html

EZRhino 10-14-2010 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 17604464)
:1orglaugh

I guess you just make shit up as you go so you can feel good.

That I did make up. I do feel a bit better now.
Thanks
:winkwink:

mchacal 10-14-2010 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by EZRhino (Post 17605954)
Its not a deadly weapon and its was invented to force people to comply without using deadly force.
I think she learned a valuable lesson.:thumbsup

It is! http://www.amnestyusa.org/document.php?lang=e&id=1A01E91E134A327080256F19004 2408D

blackmonsters 10-14-2010 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by EZRhino (Post 17605954)
Its not a deadly weapon and its was invented to force people to comply without using deadly force.
I think she learned a valuable lesson.:thumbsup


Bullshit! It was invented to subdue violent suspects and to protect the officer.

What you just said is the entire reason tasers need to be taken away.
They should not be using tasers to get compliance anymore that using the baton
or the gun for compliance. If the cop didn't have a taser and had thrown his baton
and put those stitches in the girls head you'd have a totally different opinion.

You've come to believe that the taser is a harmless tool that causes no injuries and
even when you see the kind of injury that it caused you still can't see it.

That's called being "brain washed".

96ukssob 10-14-2010 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 17604034)
It's time to take legs away from stupid teenage girls!

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

in some cities, the cops have to be in constant shape or they get canned. Should enact that everywhere :2 cents:

Machete_ 10-14-2010 07:56 AM

OP needs to be tazed repeatedly.

:2 cents:

dyna mo 10-14-2010 08:01 AM

mchacal-

aren't you the guy who posted this-

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Originally Posted by mchacal (Post 17604141)
After reading this 2 threads:

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=992327

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=992321

I really need to see some US cops getting killed

Any good gore vids out there please???

get off your high horse shit head.

mchacal 10-14-2010 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17606025)
mchacal-

aren't you the guy who posted this-



get off your high horse shit head.

Yes that was me, I must say it was kind of stupid as there are a lot of good law enforcement officials doing a great job out there and I must apologize

But well... at least I know when I'm wrong

blackmonsters 10-14-2010 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Machete_ (Post 17606004)
OP needs to be tazed repeatedly.

:2 cents:

You need a taser shoved up your ass to burn some of the bullshit away that you're full of.


:1orglaugh

Vendzilla 10-14-2010 08:14 AM

I think all weapons that cops carry should only be used for protection only, even the non lethal ones, I don't understand why they need to use it to catch someone, thats just wrong

u-Bob 10-14-2010 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by EZRhino (Post 17605954)
Its not a deadly weapon and its was invented to force people to comply without using deadly force.
I think she learned a valuable lesson.:thumbsup

Let's look up the definition of the word 'torture': the deliberate, systematic, or wanton infliction of physical or mental suffering by one or more persons in an attempt to force another person to yield information or to make a confession or for any other reason;

Using a taser to force people to comply = torture.

mchacal 10-14-2010 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17606077)
I think all weapons that cops carry should only be used for protection only, even the non lethal ones, I don't understand why they need to use it to catch someone, thats just wrong

You're 100% right

u-Bob 10-14-2010 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17606077)
I think all weapons that cops carry should only be used for protection only, even the non lethal ones, I don't understand why they need to use it to catch someone, thats just wrong

qft!

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 17605992)
Bullshit! It was invented to subdue violent suspects and to protect the officer.

What you just said is the entire reason tasers need to be taken away.
They should not be using tasers to get compliance anymore that using the baton
or the gun for compliance. If the cop didn't have a taser and had thrown his baton
and put those stitches in the girls head you'd have a totally different opinion.

You've come to believe that the taser is a harmless tool that causes no injuries and
even when you see the kind of injury that it caused you still can't see it.

That's called being "brain washed".

qft

Roald 10-14-2010 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17606077)
I think all weapons that cops carry should only be used for protection only, even the non lethal ones, I don't understand why they need to use it to catch someone, thats just wrong

you're kidding right?

Your mum is having her throat sliced as the police bumps into the situation. Murderer decides to run and the police should not use their weapon to catch him?

Yeah right :2 cents:

mchacal 10-14-2010 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Roald (Post 17606116)
you're kidding right?

Your mum is having her throat sliced as the police bumps into the situation. Murderer decides to run and the police should not use their weapon to catch him?

Yeah right :2 cents:

Ok you got an exception to the rule, but a little girl running is not an immediate danger to anyone

_Richard_ 10-14-2010 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by potter (Post 17605052)
You own your own choices in life, and the consequences that come with them.

indeed.

once i was in a club as a kid, and happened to be looking for some friends when i 'turned away', in the darkest part of the club.

apparently there was two cops 'in front of me' and i was 'running'. What happens if they decided i wasn't 'complying' enough?

Roald 10-14-2010 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by mchacal (Post 17606147)
Ok you got an exception to the rule, but a little girl running is not an immediate danger to anyone

exception?

Man I can name tons of situations where the police SHOULD use their weapons to catch someone.

Now in this particular case it might seem a bit too much (don't know the real story) but saying police should not use their weapons to catch someone is just plain bs :2 cents:

blackmonsters 10-14-2010 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Roald (Post 17606116)
you're kidding right?

Your mum is having her throat sliced as the police bumps into the situation. Murderer decides to run and the police should not use their weapon to catch him?

Yeah right :2 cents:

Sliced throats, murder, dead mom....none of that is involved in this case.

People should stop making arguments where they make up things that have
absolutely nothing to do with the case and then try to use that as a valid point
about the case.

The teen girl is not a murderer and did not have a weapon and did not slice any throats.

If I'm going to just make stuff up like you then I would say "what if the teen girl did
not have any arms or legs and was crawling away on her stomach and would not
stop? Do you tase the crippled snake like bitch in the back of her head?".

Anybody can make stuff up. Dealing with the reality of what really happened seems
to be a problem for some people however.

mchacal 10-14-2010 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Roald (Post 17606159)
exception?

Man I can name tons of situations where the police SHOULD use their weapons to catch someone.

Now in this particular case it might seem a bit too much (don't know the real story) but saying police should not use their weapons to catch someone is just plain bs :2 cents:

I quote

Quote:

I think all weapons that cops carry should only be used for protection only, even the non lethal ones, I don't understand why they need to use it to catch someone, thats just wrong
The case you stated before falls into "Use for protection" if the officers lets a murderer runs away there may be new victims, in that case the use of brutal force in justified

So the rule still fully applies

Roald 10-14-2010 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 17606180)
Sliced throats, murder, dead mom....none of that is involved in this case.

People should stop making arguments where they make up things that have
absolutely nothing to do with the case and then try to use that as a valid point
about the case.

The teen girl is not a murderer and did not have a weapon and did not slice any throats.

If I'm going to just make stuff up like you then I would say "what if the teen girl did
not have any arms or legs and was crawling away on her stomach and would not
stop? Do you tase the crippled snake like bitch in the back of her head?".

Anybody can make stuff up. Dealing with the reality of what really happened seems
to be a problem for some people however.

I am just commenting on the uterly stupid statement that cops should not use weapons to catch someone. I agreed already on the fact that in this case it looks like overkill :2 cents:

Read :2 cents:

Tom_PM 10-14-2010 08:48 AM

I'm still not over the "dont tase me bro" incident. 700 pounds of uniformed meat, and they shock him with this device with utterly no reason whatsoever. It's televised to the world, and all we get out of it is a t-shirt and some comedy? Something so obviously wrong there.. and nothing happens.

I agree with Vendzilla.. these tools should be used for protection and as a last resort. If you can sit your ass on a stick figure citizen to control him, then using a taser on him should be a crime.

blackmonsters 10-14-2010 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Roald (Post 17606193)
I am just commenting on the uterly stupid statement that cops should not use weapons to catch someone. I agreed already on the fact that in this case it looks like overkill :2 cents:

Read :2 cents:

Cops can not shoot(with a gun) a non-violent suspect in the back that is running away and unarmed.
So it's utterly stupid to imply that they can.

If cops could do this lots of innocent people would be killed before ever getting a trial.
Some people run because they are guilty, some run because they are scared, some
because they are stupid, some were actually out on a jog and the cops are mistaken
to think they are a suspect.

You'd be the cop on the street shooting people in the ass because they didn't
stop running in the local 5k street race. :1orglaugh

EZRhino 10-14-2010 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mchacal (Post 17605989)

Its a fairly unbias article. I think helps my argument then hurts.
"Some police departments have reported a significant fall in police shootings following the introduction of Tasers. In February 2004, the Phoenix Police Department, Arizona, announced that officer-involved shootings had fallen by 54% from 28 in 2002 to 13 in 2003, with fatal shootings down from 13 to 9 during the same period, the lowest number since 1990."

Calling the taser a deadly weapon is like labeling peanuts poison. Sure there are some people who get hurt or even killed by peanuts but they are not poison. And there are instances were cops are using it incorectly. They should be prosecuted.

potter 10-14-2010 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 17606152)
indeed.

once i was in a club as a kid, and happened to be looking for some friends when i 'turned away', in the darkest part of the club.

apparently there was two cops 'in front of me' and i was 'running'. What happens if they decided i wasn't 'complying' enough?

:1orglaugh

I'm sure it was a perfectly legit club, and the cops being there was merely coincidence.


... I was a "club kid" as well for a long while. The only "clubs" I was at where police showed up and went after people were definitely not the clubs I should have been at in the first place.

Again, own your own choices in life.


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